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Knobb Manwich posted:Are they? How are they not wiping the floor with an utterly incompetent LNP? Support is going to whacko third parties like the Greens rather than Labor. They've been up 8-10 points tpp all year Turnbull would have to run over a kid to lower it further than that
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If we had a Howard era LNP in Parliament with Shorten ALP, the ALP would be exiled to the far realms of Electoral Oblivion for the next four election terms with the sort of poo poo like Dastyari popping up. Shorten and his era of ALP are only going to win the next election because Abbott/Turnbull LNP are beating them in a contest of falling down the stairs. Without the LNP to contrast against and Besieged Malcolm on the front page so often, the factional infighting and drama of the ALP would be the focus of media outlets. Shorten is only desirable in the same way that, after a nasty case of food poisoning from a service station pie, you just really want a piece of plain bread.
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Greens and ALP are increasingly not competing for the same demographic anymore, and with ALP making GBS threads the bed in Northcote that's probably going to continue. The ALP are going to go all in on middle class suburbanites, a strategy that has served the Democrats so well in the US. When the old Catholics start to die off Melbourne's North will go Green forever.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-01/clive-palmer-arrest-warrant-sought-for-queensland-businessman/9215300quote:Queensland Nickel's liquidators are seeking to have a warrant issued for Clive Palmer's arrest after the businessman failed to show up for a court date on Thursday.
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It will be a relief for the ALP when they can stop pretending to be the Progressive Choice and just embrace the fact that they are the party for 20-something private school spivs whose parents went to public schools and middle aged women from Zone 2 who live in fear of the Apex Gang.
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Y'all should go listen to this wrapup of the Yes campaign:quote:Katharine Murphy and Paul Karp talk to two key marriage equality campaigners about how they campaigned for a successful outcome to the postal survey: Sydney MP and co-chair of Australian Marriage Equality Alex Greenwich and Anna Brown, Director of Legal Advocacy at the Human Rights Law Centre. Because it's a good story of how organized political action won the day over the MSM and the Right, and we need these stories.
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Kommando posted:Peopledon'tvotegreens.Gif Loads of rich idpol people vote greens.
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racing identity posted:It will be a relief for the ALP when they can stop pretending to be the Progressive Choice and just embrace the fact that they are the party for 20-something private school spivs whose parents went to public schools and middle aged women from Zone 2 who live in fear of the Apex Gang. Careful there, JBP is going to sue you for character assassination
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You Am I posted:Careful there, JBP is going to sue you for character assassination The private school spivs I know all vote for the Greens, which makes sense since 70% of inner city Melbourne Greens voters dislike unions and this is reflected in my mates who get jobs as "professionals" and turn on organised labour the moment something goes wrong or a union member asks for procedural fairness.
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Greens voters are essentially $80-110k per annum human resources managers that say things like "oh actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented".
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JBP posted:Greens voters are essentially $80-110k per annum human resources managers that say things like "oh actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented". Actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented (im a policy adviser not HR so gently caress you)
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Solemn Sloth posted:(im a policy adviser not HR so gently caress you) sounds important
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JBP posted:Greens voters are essentially $80-110k per annum human resources managers that say things like "oh actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented". It's not like the Greens have a very strong following from younger people, who are largely under the average take home pay and honestly just want to have any kind of chance of a career.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Because Greens voters are all one big monolithic stereotype, way to drink the ALP "they're stealing our votes!!!!!" kool-aid. I was responding to a poster claiming the ALP is only for spivs, CrazyTolradi. I respect the broad appeal of the greens political party who have a very strong following and members in the most expensive suburbs of Melbourne.
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JBP posted:I shook Bill Shortens hand four years ago and haven't washed my hand since.
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JBP posted:Greens voters are essentially $80-110k per annum human resources managers that say things like "oh actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented". Lots of them on the North Coast of NSW then?
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That's a big claim considering I don't support his political party crazytolradi, are you trying to get a rise out of me cob?
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JBP posted:*drinks ALP Kool-aid*
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Lots of them on the North Coast of NSW then? Probably shitloads of them working from home at their bohemian paradise.
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TBH the only difference between Young Libs and Young Labor is the party name, they both walk out of the same sailing clubs with their dads.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Lots of them on the North Coast of NSW then?
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CrazyTolradi posted:TBH the only difference between Young Libs and Young Labor is the party name, they both walk out of the same sailing clubs with their dads. is this a victorian thing or did your brain get flooded?
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CrazyTolradi posted:TBH the only difference between Young Libs and Young Labor is the party name, they both walk out of the same sailing clubs with their dads. Young Labor are very largely descended from Liberal voters these days thanks to the new career path of the lifetime politician. It's also a great way to stick it up mum and dad. They also dislike unions.
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Young Labor lost most of their youth left wing when they knifed Julia so everything since has just been watching the slow shambolic zombie walk of death
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Birdstrike posted:is this a victorian thing or did your brain get flooded? Catholic royalty are heavily represented in young Labor. They have their own new money yacht clubs though.
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Birdstrike posted:is this a victorian thing or did your brain get flooded?
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JBP posted:Greens voters are essentially $80-110k per annum human resources managers that say things like "oh actually I think unions are necessary and working people deserve to be represented". Hey, gently caress you I work in IT.
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It is possible to recognise that the Greens have had difficulty penetrating working class electorates due to real or perceived snobbery workout it being an actual attack on the party.
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There probably needs to be a referendum to fix S44 of the consitution to include the disqualification of anyone involved in student politics.
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thatbastardken posted:It is possible to recognise that the Greens have had difficulty penetrating working class electorates due to real or perceived snobbery workout it being an actual attack on the party. I wish I could find the thread on FB I was in where a greens counsellor for Brunswick i know was trying to work out how to talk to working class people. It spun me out.
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Have y'all considered just chilling the gently caress out because holy loving poo poo
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thatbastardken posted:It is possible to recognise that the Greens have had difficulty penetrating working class electorates due to real or perceived snobbery workout it being an actual attack on the party. ken understands
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Amoeba102 posted:There probably needs to be a referendum to fix S44 of the consitution to include the disqualification of anyone involved in student politics. not a bad idea tbh
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thatbastardken posted:It is possible to recognise that the Greens have had difficulty penetrating working class electorates due to real or perceived snobbery workout it being an actual attack on the party. Doesn't help when we have a "national 25 seat strategy" that neglects to focus on any bloody working class neighbourhoods and seems entirely based around a Victorian BoP wet dream instead of saving the planet and improving people's material conditions.
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