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The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Police watchdog refuses to reinvestigate officers who tasered innocent couple in Fremantle

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Western Australia's police watchdog has decided not to reinvestigate officers found by a District Court judge to have fabricated evidence, abused their powers and falsely imprisoned, assaulted and tasered an innocent Fremantle couple.
The decision by Corruption and Crime Commissioner John McKechnie is the latest roadblock in the nine-year quest for justice by law professor Robert Cunningham and his wife, Catherine Atoms.
The couple was awarded more than $1.1 million in damages by the District Court last year after suing three police officers who were found to have behaved maliciously and unlawfully towards them.
The case prompted the parliamentary inspector and committee responsible for the oversight of the Corruption and Crime Commission (CCC) to call last month for the watchdog to take a fresh look at the behaviour of the police towards the couple, including potential criminal conduct.
But in a letter to the committee, Mr McKechnie said he had not changed his position that there was not enough public interest to justify spending limited CCC resources and the Police Commissioner could take action if required.
"I am aware of the criticism of the Commission about its perceived inaction on use of force allegations," he wrote.

No apologies, no disciplinary action
The couple has not received an apology, nor have any police officers been disciplined, after the 2008 incident � which left them suffering post-traumatic stress disorder, physical injuries and big legal bills.
Their troubles began when they stopped to help pull four men out of a flowerbed after a night out in Fremantle celebrating Dr Cunningham's birthday and Ms Atoms' new job.
The noisy group attracted the attention of officers from the Fremantle Police Station and the situation quickly escalated.
The couple was accused of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and assault � allegations which have been discounted by different courts � and were handcuffed, tasered and arrested.
In the District Court, Justice Felicity Davis said officers Simon Traynor, Peter James Clark and Glenn Alexander Caldwell had fabricated evidence and were unprofessional in how they handled crucial physical evidence, like video footage.
After being unable to get an apology for the behaviour of the police officers the morning after the incident, the couple complained about their treatment to WA Police, the CCC, the Ombudsman, the Attorney-General, the Police Commissioner and the Parliamentary Inspector of the CCC.
'Zap the f***ers'

Both the current and previous parliamentary inspectors of the CCC have criticised the corruption watchdog for accepting the findings of a "demonstrably flawed" internal police investigation.
This inquiry � conducted by staff who also worked at Fremantle police station � cleared the officers of misconduct and failed to interview Mr Caldwell, who tasered both Mr Cunningham and Ms Atoms.
Mr Caldwell, who retired from the force in 2013, gave evidence at the civil trial that he had told officers Clark and Traynor to "zap the f***ers".
"He is the kind of person who would taser first and ask questions later and that he had no regard for police policy for the use of tasers, as set out in the Manual [including that a taser should not be used as a compliance tool]," Justice Davis' judgement said.
Under WA Police policy, tasers may only be used to prevent injuries to police and never to enforce compliance.

The chair of the parliamentary committee overseeing the CCC, Labor MP Margaret Quirk, was scathing of Mr McKechnie's decision, saying the commission "has demonstrated little appetite for investigating police matters, in particular those involving alleged excessive use of force".

She also highlighted the couple's quest for justice, even though her government is continuing its legal appeal against paying compensation to the couple.
The WA government was found jointly liable with the three officers in last year's civil case.

"Dr Cunningham and Ms Atoms were both subject to excessive use of force at the hands of Western Australian police officers, subjected to prosecution, later withdrawn, and have been fighting for acknowledgement and recompense for their treatment for over nine years," she wrote.

In a statement, Dr Cunningham and Ms Atoms said "We strongly urge the WA Government to immediately review, and to respond appropriately, in relation to police accountability and oversight mechanisms, including the way in which the WA Police and the CCC deal with 'serious misconduct' allegations.

"All Western Australians have a stake in ensuring the rule of law is upheld in this State."

# ¿ Nov 30, 2017 23:17

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:20

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gently caress off Joe Hildebrand

# ¿ Nov 30, 2017 23:42

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Amoeba102 posted:

There probably needs to be a referendum to fix S44 of the consitution to include the disqualification of anyone involved in student politics.

not a bad idea tbh

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 02:36

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how dare you suggest that a party almost entirely represented by upper middle class educated white people doesn't know how to appeal to the working class!

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 02:40

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I mean, Maiwar is an amalgamation of the Indro and (most of)Mt Coot-tha electorates, so it's not unsurprising that there's some interesting results. You've basically got a massive young student population living in toowong, st lucia, indooroopilly, etc that are captured by the new boundary and that offsets the nimby upper middle class set.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 03:35

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Kafka Syrup posted:

I'm not sure how much of a factor that's been. I know it historically didn't make a difference since most students weren't enrolled to vote in that seat, but the postal survey might have changed that.

most of the young people I spoke to were voting Green anyway so I didn't really get a handle on what issues or initiatives resonated with them. The NIMBYs were (unsurprisingly) really into the planning reform and anti-corruption stuff but were very angry about the public holidays and housing packages we proposed. There was quite a number of young professionals and Gen Xers who were into the childcare, enviro and housing packages.

Before, IIRC from having lived in both electorates before, the young student vote was split between the Mt Coot-tha and Indooroopilly electorates. So bringing those together and getting rid of parts of inner north Brisbane might have had a noteworthy impact. Impossible to tell, of course. The marriage survey would probably have been a factor as well, yeah.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 03:46

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JBP posted:

Andrew Bolt is contemplating maybe doing something half reasonable every day and it's freaking me the gently caress out.

# ¿ Dec 5, 2017 23:28

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Anidav posted:

Former Channel 9 reporter Ben McCormack has been handed a $1,000 fine and a three-year good behaviour bond over child pornography charges.

Wow only a thousand dollars for being caught with Child Porn.

I just.

not surprised

rich/somewhat famous white dude

# ¿ Dec 6, 2017 00:47

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JBP posted:

Ah I assumed it was an Australian tweet. Probably Fieri then.

e: no joke though it's Gordon Ramsay.

poo poo, Julia Child's career is over now

realtalk: my bet is Anthony Bourdain for some reason

Solemn Sloth posted:

Deffo noted criminal George calombaris imo

that was my first instinct tbh.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2017 05:46

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MythLisp posted:

She's been dead for over 13 years so I think that's the least of her worries.

also, we're forgetting Jamie Oliver

it's definitely Jamie Oliver

# ¿ Dec 11, 2017 05:49

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Sam Dastyari to address media at 10:30 am AEDT

# ¿ Dec 11, 2017 23:57

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

That's ok, all those executives will be getting bigger bonuses this year due to saving all that money on wages.

I'm sure it will trickle down.

*uncannily accurate edna krabappel laugh*

# ¿ Dec 12, 2017 04:22

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There's only one person that springs to mind as a 'high profile local govt political figure' to me and he's an ex-mayor

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 00:29

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lol dick gross

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 00:34

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Solemn Sloth posted:

Australia already doesn�t have net neutrality, that�s why we have things like free social media data etc. the effect it will have is out ISPs seeing which lovely ideas American ISPs implement work the best and copy them.

yep

also regionalised pricing for downloadable content, software, music, etc. surely if 'data is data' and it doesn't matter where it's coming from, it also shouldn't matter where the data is going.

e: also, re disney/fox, does that mean there's a chance that we could get new Firefly?

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 23:09

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G-Spot Run posted:

Firefly was cute and all but it's time to let go.

And yes I'm mostly saying that because The Fans ruin everything.

firefly is the nerd version of Kevin Rudd's leadership ambitions

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:01

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people can already follow sharia to the extent that it is compatible with Australian law anyway

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:20

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Solemn Sloth posted:

I think it was brought up due to the fact that what most people screeching about religious freedom mean is being able to continue imposing Christianity on everyone else and this is going to be a significant problem for them and/or Trumble

Yeah, but the way it is being reported is basically 'UQ LAW LECTURER THINKS WE SHOULD INTRODUCE SHARIA LAW'

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:28

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Kafka Syrup posted:

Oh I studied under Aroney. He's a very good constitutional scholar but he's also a VERY VERY conservative, black-letter Catholic.

Yeah I think he was around during my law days, though I took const when Suri was still doing the majority of it.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:46

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Kafka Syrup posted:

Suri's a moderate compared to Aroney. The UQ Law School was (and in many ways still is) full of weird super-conservatives. Hell, James Allen still loving teaches despite multiple allegations of straight up abusing students.

Agreed. James Allen scared the poo poo out of me when I took public law. I always found his attitude towards students appalling, including when he refused to record his lectures because if you're not at the lecture, you're clearly not committed enough to study (even if you have to work in order to afford to live :allears:

). I think Ann Black was my fave, though I only did one subject with her.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:52

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Kafka Syrup posted:

Just gently caress corporates, imo.

Tamara Walsh was good in Human Rights, Bell-James in Environmental and Black in Islamic law. I'm cut I missed out on taking femjuris though.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 01:09

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

https://twitter.com/BevanShields/status/941210934944571392

No, they elected John Howard. They need to suffer more.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 02:02

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there are so many 'game of the year' type awards from different publishers now that it's virtually meaningless for a game to claim the title

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 05:24

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JBP posted:

If you paid $500+ for a Switch and a game, but don't own a home and bitch about the price of things itt, then shame on you.

shaming people who can't afford some things for buying the things they *can* afford once in a while is a trashy thing to do

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 06:27

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poor people shouldn't be allowed to spend money to enjoy themselves IMO

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 06:29

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Intoluene posted:

Literally the LNP platform in a nutshell.

no their platform is

The Before Times posted:

poor people shouldn't be allowed

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 06:31

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Solemn Sloth posted:

Hi have you met jbp before

I'm hoping some repetition will drill through his skull.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 06:36

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even if you have a stable job, woe betide you if you ever defaulted on a phone or energy bill while you were a struggling poor student :v:

regardless the deposit situation is stupid at the moment. unless you're a DINK couple or have assistance from parents you're fukt

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 06:45

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Cartoon posted:

Christmas claims it's first mass victims:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-17/balcony-collapse-doncaster-east-tupperware-christmas-party/9266132

Maybe if they had gone a little lighter on the decorations and worn helmets.

welp, someone's getting sued

# ¿ Dec 17, 2017 03:02

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Solemn Sloth posted:

I have a feeling the actual answer is going to be there should never have been two dozen people, a barbecue and a fridge on the balcony at the same time tbh

yeah this will be the answer

# ¿ Dec 17, 2017 04:46

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

...Isn't that the exact same excuse used for one of the guys that harassed Dastayari?

yes. turns out lots of people like to use autism as an excuse for their kids' lovely behaviour! but you can be autistic without being a racist rear end in a top hat

# ¿ Dec 17, 2017 23:51

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Solemn Sloth posted:

The best thing is that it hasn�t changed any of the dumb perception that the ABC is left leaning

despite articles popping up like this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-18/greens-spend-150,000-dollars-on-media-monitoring/9268356

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 23:32

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Schlesische posted:

One the one hand, the D-class has this wonderful thing called "Air Conditioning".
On the other, the Z-class is more comfortable and makes fewer weird noises when it turns.

Help me guys, I can't decide.

Will it shoot through Bondi Junction?

Is d-class the one with the strange seat configuration? Having air con is good but they really were not thinking with the design

# ¿ Dec 19, 2017 22:22

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You mean you're not connected to The Grid (TM)?

# ¿ Dec 19, 2017 23:31

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The Yarra building is where the Koorie Heritage Trust is housed as well. Hope they're not being displaced.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 02:38

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Frogfingers posted:

What galls me is in the zoomed out shot of Fed Square you can see the existing Apple store across the street anyway.

I think that store is actually an authorised reseller rather than official apple store

regardless it's pretty galling

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 23:15

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Laserface posted:

Lol at the loving cry babies in here calling Apple products "horrid things" that spy on you (and presumably those people own Android devices which is even more hilarious) and complaining about them buying land to put a building on.

Also lol at people complaining about Cold Chisel and ACDC as if they arent actually good bands unfortunately adopted by bogans.

This thread is full of loving losers its fantastic.

wow look at this crybaby melting down because a single person called Apple products "horrid things"

I think it's perfectly justifiable to complain about what is supposed to be a cultural space being taken up by a multinational corporation that does everything in its power not to pay tax. Not just that, but a pretty cool building being demolished and replaced with a glass cube.

The Before Times fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Dec 20, 2017

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 23:56

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ili posted:

Ah, fair enough. We covered pregnancy contraception etc in science and I think contraception and stis in home ec. It makes sense to cover the whole thing together in one subject, although it feels a bit sad to have to have an explicit lesson about consent and no actually meaning no.

sad but bloody necessary, because even the 'no means no' concept is insufficient.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 03:51

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" the proletariat is the social class that does not have ownership of the means of production and whose only means of subsistence is to sell their labor power for a wage or salary. "

I mean, that definitely describes me

# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 06:07

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:20

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I am a prole AMA

# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 06:09

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