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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:This is playing before every YouTube video for me today it's less about the argument and more an attempt to frame the protestors as "oh they don't know what they want" or whatever, like occupy back in the day
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Red Baron posted:people saw Dune one time and immediately think they understand the Middle East I read the book as a teen and I've been on a butter jihad ever since
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alarumklok posted:this is an incredibly cursed title I missed the whole episode so it's just bothering me. it's not even a properly formed idea
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AnEdgelord posted:Yeah got them mixed up, I hate that era of European war naming conventions because it's really easy to mix up the name. Especially since the thirty years war was a second theater of the eighty years war
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https://x.com/deitaone/status/1784268676226552298?s=46&t=wFLEtw1rYscWWbs5yY6yJA
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Apr 27, 2024 19:40
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mdemone posted:I missed the whole episode so it's just bothering me. it's not even a properly formed idea when the hasbarans send this thread their posters, theyre not sending their best.
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Apr 27, 2024 19:40
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sure they will
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they don't have all the hostages. they never did. many were killed and plowed under by IDF. What do they want "Hamas" to do?
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Apr 27, 2024 19:43
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"We promise not to do the thing we've been chomping at the bit to do as long as you give us all your leverage first, pinky swear."
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Red Baron posted:people saw Dune one time and immediately think they understand the Middle East the funny part is the new dune movies did their best to erase most of the arab/islamic references from the book.
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Senior Israeli official: Israel has not agreed to end war and withdraw from Strip After Channel 12 reported that the terms Israel agreed to — and which are being conveyed to Hamas — would include a second stage that would examine an end to the war in exchange for the release of additional hostages beyond the initial 33, a senior Israeli official says that “Israel did not agree to an end of the war, to a withdrawal from the Strip, or other demands that Hamas presented.” mdemone posted:they don't have all the hostages. they never did. many were killed and plowed under by IDF. they want Hamas to surrender unconditionally and release hostages so they can stop pretending they care at all and continue their genocide
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lol that they don’t even say they won’t do it, they just say they’ll wait until later
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Apr 27, 2024 19:46
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Mister Bates posted:lol that they don’t even say they won’t do it, they just say they’ll wait until later "Give up any and all leverage you have for us to defer killing your rear end 'til later - bing bong, so simple!"
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Israel is surrendering massively in the latest round of negotiations, at least that's what aljazeera is reporting. === Israeli officials: Israel makes new concessions on exchange deal Israeli officials said the new Egyptian proposal includes significant concessions by Israel, including an "implicit willingness" to discuss an end to the war, the full return of displaced people to their homes, and the army's withdrawal from the Netzarim corridor. Tel Aviv proposes Hamas release of 33 prisoners in exchange for security prisoners Israel's Channel 14 said Tel Aviv had proposed that Hamas release 33 resistance prisoners in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian security prisoners. Smotrich and Ben Gvir threaten to withdraw from the Israeli government Israel's Kan TV reported that ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir are threatening to withdraw from the government if Rafah is not invaded. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...?update=6488761
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/quote:We left the meeting very disappointed because Netanyahu talked about dismantling Hamas as the goal of the war. He didn’t promise anything regarding the demand to return the hostages. He merely said a military operation in Gaza was needed to serve as leverage for the hostages’ release. Netyanahu could have had all the hostages back on day 1 but was more interested in genocide than getting them back. Times Of Israel article puts him in a terrible light. As a man more interested in his own political survival than recovering the hostages or ending bloodshed. Palestinian civilians and the Israeli hostages are blood sacrifices he offers up to keep his coalition together. Marenghi has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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this is gonna be the tenth time israel lies and they’ve already been amassing troops for rafah
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Al-Saqr posted:Israel is surrendering massively in the latest round of negotiations, at least that's what aljazeera is reporting. this is just israel claiming they made concessions like always ill wait for Hamas Senior Hamas official says low chance latest Israeli truce proposal will be accepted A senior Hamas official tells the pro-Hezbollah Lebanese al-Mayadeen news station that the terror group sees a low chance of accepting a recent Israeli offer for a hostage release deal without “fundamental amendments.” “The Israeli proposal that was presented does not reflect a fundamental change in the Israeli position. It does not give clear answers to the issue of the withdrawal [from Gaza] and a full ceasefire,” the official says, without providing details on the proposa
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HallelujahLee posted:this is just israel claiming they made concessions hmmm makes sense, seems like as usual israel was talking out of their rear end. however, the key take away seems like it's Hamas who seems to be in the much stronger position in the negotiations.
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Crying "We made massive concessions and they still won't bargain in good faith with us!!!" to the media when you've actually made no concessions is like the oldest imperialist/capitalist negotiation trick in the book.
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mdemone posted:I missed the whole episode so it's just bothering me. it's not even a properly formed idea but, the jihads, you know, the famous ones, the ones we all immediately know of, just like the crusades, those jihads
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Al-Saqr posted:hmmm makes sense, seems like as usual israel was talking out of their rear end. they have been yeah for awhile now
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Sydin posted:Crying "We made massive concessions and they still won't bargain in good faith with us!!!" to the media when you've actually made no concessions is like the oldest imperialist/capitalist negotiation trick in the book.
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Al-Saqr posted:the funny part is the new dune movies did their best to erase most of the arab/islamic references from the book. explain how.
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Sydin posted:Crying "We made massive concessions and they still won't bargain in good faith with us!!!" to the media when you've actually made no concessions is like the oldest imperialist/capitalist negotiation trick in the book. Israel has never made a case for why they should be trusted or how they’d act differently if they get what they want. It does no good for there to be a prisoner swap if Israel returns to behind the walls around Gaza and periodically arrests people in barbaric dragnets. Tankbuster posted:explain how. I was going to say, if anything the Yemeni attire and architecture seemed more prominent.
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Red Baron posted:but, the jihads, you know, the famous ones, the ones we all immediately know of, just like the crusades, those jihads it's like a very early AI model was trying to learn about world history and just did not understand the concept of time
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Tankbuster posted:explain how. "long live the fighters" instead of martyrs, for one
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Tankbuster posted:explain how. they did change the language. fighters, martyrs, they also did not use the word jihad. I mean he's pretty much right about the text, but the subtext is VERY MUCH ARABIC
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mdemone posted:it's like a very early AI model was trying to learn about world history and just did not understand the concept of time I’m thinking maybe mechanics from Crusader Kings where Jihad and Crusade are the same thing and the title depends on your leader’s religion? Long live the martyrs (by definition: dead) requires too much engagement with metaphysics for contemporary American audiences imo
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I’m thinking maybe mechanics from Crusader Kings where Jihad and Crusade are the same thing and the title depends on your leader’s religion? 
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The Arab world has kept “the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church” alive in a way that even the country that died to go to Appebee’s can’t understand.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Israel has never made a case for why they should be trusted or how they’d act differently if they get what they want. I wouldn't even trust them to return to the Oct 7 status quo at this point. They just want the hostages off the board so they can go full tilt into the genocide without having to risk taking heat from the Israeli public for killing even more hostages in their indiscriminate bloodlust.
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Sydin posted:I wouldn't even trust them to return to the Oct 7 status quo at this point. They just want the hostages off the board so they can go full tilt into the genocide without having to risk taking heat from the Israeli public for killing even more hostages in their indiscriminate bloodlust. the hostages are off the board. I don't think Hamas has anyone at all.
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do americans even understand what martyrs are?
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Tankbuster posted:do americans even understand what martyrs are? we have seen many, but understood none edit: we are the grieving city, we are the eternal sadness, we are the lost people. Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate’. mdemone has issued a correction as of 20:18 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:"long live the fighters" instead of martyrs, for one YA HYA CHOUHADA: “Long live the fighters!” It's been fighters the whole time.
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Tankbuster posted:do americans even understand what martyrs are? Who was that one life to give for my country guy? Samual Adams’ Sierra Nevada Pale Ale?
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mdemone posted:the hostages are off the board. I don't think Hamas has anyone at all. What makes you think that? Just today Hamas released another video of hostages speaking. Many of them have died, sure, but not all of them.
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