paul_soccer10 posted:

MOd approved Toxxing allowed: how long you think until the IDF does this again to gaza for no reason?

which i think still looks like this because the red cross stole all the money or something
probably Summer 2018 i think

paul_soccer10 posted:

Lol
https://twitter.com/ML_ine/status/954157706637651974

https://twitter.com/DopeSaintJude/status/955339893370163201

Maybe Zionism isn't so feminist and progressive after all

R. Mute posted:

from the graun article on the protests:

oh just shot in the legs for throwing rocks, that's okay then

oh huh. did the tank shell aim for their legs as well?

R. Mute posted:

meanwhile the belgian national news network has found out exclusive info that literally no other news network is going with: the farmer they blew up was crossing the border!

probably to terrorise israeli crops

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There are fair questions about shooting non-lethally at retreating civilian combatants. It's a huge gray area of international law. 
At best, this is Yosemite Sam-level "dance, varmint" dickery. 
At worst, it's stormtroopers firing in the general direction of C3PO and R2D2.

That Robot posted:

fixed that for you

Grondoth posted:

Is there literally any reason for america to support israel?

I mean it. Is sit cause we get to sell them like a million weapons?

paul_soccer10 posted:

That tends to happen when the only hands-on experience your troops have is shooting children in a cage

Percelus posted:

with republicans still controlling congress, trump as president and if mike pompeo is head diplomat and john bolton is national security advisor it really would be the window of opportunity for bibi to do some heinous poo poo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Israel is already playing the long game of dumping enough toxic waste into Gaza that it becomes unsuitable for human habitation.

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I can't believe that Palestinians are poisoning the Israelis, something needs to be done!

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I don't know how the Israeli system of government works, but if it's anything like America's, presumably the legislator already has the ability to overrule the supreme court claim of "unconstitutionality" by amending the constitution. Which I think is fair, if you want to create a racial apartheid state, it should be clear. Perhaps they could even put something like this in the Israeli constitution "We must secure the existence of our people and the future for Israeli children." With that guiding light, the supreme court won't have any issues with "unconstitutionality."

Communist Zombie posted:

Can someone explain why the leftist and arab parties wont join up? Is it mutual hatred, one sided animosity, very incompatible goals, or just old bad blood?

Grondoth posted:

Isn't a huge issue around settling is that israel's housing situation is lovely, and the government's solution is to pay for Israelis to colonize the west bank?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245252 posted:

Nationality Law passes first reading

A bill that would enshrine Israel's Jewish nature into law passed its first Knesset reading on Tuesday by a majority of 64-50.

The bill, which is sponsored by MK Avi Dichter (Likud), will now be sent to a special committee headed by fellow Likud MK Amir Ohana. The bill needs to pass its second and third readings in order to become law.

The bill enshrines the status of the State of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people and the right of the Jewish people to self-determination in its homeland as a unique right for the Jewish people, the symbols of the state, Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and the Hebrew language as the official language.
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"The State of Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people," said Dichter. "This is a clear fact. But despite everything, after 70 years, unfortunately, it is not clear to everyone and it is certainly is not anchored in any law in the State of Israel.

The bill has been seen as controversial, with opposition MKs contending that passing the law would weaken Israel's non-Jewish minorities. A similar bill in 2014 titled the 'Jewish State Law' failed amidst coalition wrangling.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245256 posted:

A bill allowing jurists to invoke Jewish law during legal battles passed its third and final reading in the Knesset by a vote of 39-32.

The law, which was sponsored by MK Nissan Slomianski (Jewish Home), instructs judges to "turn to the principles of freedom, justice, and peace as espoused by Jewish law in addition to turning to the principles of the Jewish tradition" when current legislation does not provide an adequate answer.

A version of this bill had already been passed as part of the Basic Law: The Judiciary in 1984 but has been sparingly used by Israel's legal system due to its unclear applications.

The bill had aroused controversy from opposition MKs, who alleged that its passage would pave Israel's transformation from a democracy to a state governed solely by Jewish law.

"How can you force a person who does not believe in God, a law that is different from the law of a democratic state, which was not accepted by an elected representative and does not meet the criteria of democracy?" asked MK Meirav Michaeli (Zionist Union).

"In what democratic state could this law be imposed on its citizens" continued Michaeli, who contended that Jewish law "does not recognize equality, not between Jews and non-Jews, and not between men and women".

MK Dov Khenin (Joint List) stated that the real goal of the law "is to change the foundations of the judicial system, to distance the system as much as possible from advanced concepts of democracy and to make the system more nationalist, conservative and religious."

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Supreme-Court-president-pleads-with-Netanyahu-not-to-endanger-democracy-553060 posted:

Supreme Court president pleads with Netanyahu not to endanger democracy

The Israeli public believes if the Supreme Court is denied the capacity to strike down laws enacted by the Knesset, there will be no checks on the government and it will have unlimited power.

Supreme Court President Esther Hayut warned Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked in a two-hour meeting on Sunday that their insistence to limit the power of the Supreme Court could endanger Israeli democracy.

Netanyahu’s Likud and Shaked’s Bayit Yehudi parties support legislation permitting the Knesset to override the court’s decisions to strike down laws with a simple majority of 61 MKs. But Hayut would oppose the bill even if it were to call for a larger special majority to override the court, media reports said.

Bayit Yehudi leader Naftali Bennett, who told The Jerusalem Post that “the bill was the most important decision being made in 25 years,” has threatened Netanyahu’s coalition if the bill is not brought to a vote in Shaked’s Ministerial Committee on Legislation next Sunday.

“There can be dialogue about whether the majority required should be 61 or 65, but more than that negates the point of having an override clause,” Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan said. “The Knesset passes many laws that help minorities, but it also has the right to advance legislation that helps the majority of citizens.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-authorized-to-declare-war-in-extreme-situations-without-consulting-cabinet/ posted:

PM authorized to declare war in 'extreme' situations without consulting cabinet

In a surprise and potentially far-reaching victory for Benjamin Netanyahu, the Knesset on Monday evening gave the prime minister the authority to declare war or order a major military operation by consulting only the defense minister, and not via a full cabinet vote as the law had previously required.

Sixty-two Knesset members voted the dramatic proposal into law, beating out the 41 opposition MKs who opposed it claiming that the language of the law effectively gives free reign to the prime minister by removing all oversight.

According to the new law, in “extreme circumstances,” military operations can be authorized by the prime minister and defense minister alone and will not need a vote by cabinet ministers.

The law does not specify exactly what those circumstances may be, or who will determine them, saying only that the case will apply, “if the issue is necessary due to urgency.”
...
Two opposition lawmakers — Zionist Union’s Omer Bar Lev, an IDF reserve officer with the rank of colonel and a former commander of the elite unit Sayeret Matkal, and Yesh Atid’s Ofer Shelah, a company commander in the reserve Paratroopers Brigade who lost an eye during the 1982 Lebanon War — warned the committees that the wording of the new legislation could enable the prime minister to exclude lawmakers who opposed a military operation and to bring such an operation to a vote in their absence.

They also said that allowing the prime minister and defense minister to decide when a situation is considered “extreme circumstances” would give them full power to go to war without any oversight.

Willie Tomg posted:

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is a /pol troll persona. that's not your name. nobody's named that. dont give me that fakeass name "Shmuley Boteach" whats your real name you antisemetic fucker

Byolante posted:

Could this be a end run to say hamas is working with jamah islamiyah who worked with al qaeda, making hamas actually al qaeda and therefore a legal target via the AUMF?

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David Friedman, the U.S. ambassador to Israel, was president of a non-profit that donated money to a far-right Jewish group designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department.

American Friends of Bet El Yeshiva Center donated 48,000 shekels — about $12,000 — to Qomemiyut in 2013, when Friedman was president of the non-profit, according to a report by the Democratic Bloc, an Israeli NGO that tracks funding for right-wing groups.

The State Department has since 1997 designated Kach as a terrorist group. The most recent State Department list, for 2016, includes “Qomemiyut Movement”, the group’s current name, as an alias for Kahane Chai, an offshoot of Kach. It was similarly listed in 2013, when Friedman’s group made the donation, and a State Department list as early as 1999 includes Qomemiyut..

Qomemiyut in its current iteration was established in 2006, a year after Israel’s government evacuated settlements from the Gaza Strip, to prevent any further evacuations of settlements. Its current CEO, Mussa Cohen, on Friday told JTA that the group is the same group that in the 1990s was affiliated with the Kach movement, founded by the extremist rabbi, Meir Kahane.

The Canadian government in 2016 listed Qomemiyut Movement as a terrorist entity. Mussa Cohen last year told Arutz Sheva, an Israeli news outlet, that he would seek the movement’s removal from the list.

...

Qomemiyut translates as “sovereignty,” but also shares a root in Hebrew with the word “uprising.” Its officers are a who’s who of Israel’s hard right, including Knesset member Betzalel Smotrich, a member of the extreme faction of the Jewish Home Party, and Dov Lior, the former rabbi of Kiryat Arba who has repeatedly been accused of incitement. In 2014, Lior said Jewish law allows for the destruction of the Gaza Strip.

On its Facebook page, Qomemiyut describes its mission as the “strengthening and instilling of the values of the righteousness of the Jewish renewal and preventing the expulsion of the Jews from Judea, Samaria and the Golan Heights.” It has protested on behalf of Israeli Jews accused of incitement and has called on Jewish landlords not to rent to Arabs.

The Democratic Bloc was established recently as part of a counteroffensive by liberal and left-wing NGOs in Israel. There have long been NGOs in Israel that track and report funding sources for left-wing groups.

In 1994, using regulations that previously had been used only against Palestinians, the Israeli government banned the Kach and Kahane Chai political parties for their fiercely anti-Arab rhetoric. Both owed their ideology to the U.S.-born Kahane, who was assassinated in New York in 1990.

Grondoth posted:

The fact that they have secret nukes that they have a plan that says "we will nuke the whole world if things don't go our way" is nuts

Neurolimal posted:

So what are democrats saying about the protests so far

i imagine they're conflicted because on one hand palestinians are protesting but on the other hand israel is celebrating a trump move

Plutonis posted:

lol i just noticed the embassy move is exactly the same day as the 70 year anniversary of the nakba

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Jerusalem Museum Covers Exhibit on Evolution, Dinosaurs When ultra-Orthodox Students Visit
Haredi Jewish schools made their visits conditional on the exhibit being covered up, and the museum's educational director decided to agree to their request

The Natural History Museum in Jerusalem covers up an exhibit on evolution and dinosaurs during visits by ultra-Orthodox students. The museum says it only covers one specific exhibit with a curtain when groups from Haredi schools visit, as part of the educational program of the Jerusalem municipality, and when they request to do so in advance.

The permanent exhibit on “the beginning of human evolution and culture” was covered by pink sheet, as reported and photographed by Michael Bachner of the Times of Israel. The exhibit presents the stages of human evolution using illustrations, texts and archeological finds. A visitor who asked about the curtain and then complained when she was told that Haredim do not like to see such things, was told by a museum employee that she could leave, according to the story.

Since the beginning of the school year, 12 groups from Haredi schools have visited the Natural History Museum as part of the city’s “Jerusalem Advantage” educational program. This is the first year such visits to the museum have been subsidized by the city.

The museum’s educational director, Dr. Evgeny Roznitsky, says schools made their visits conditional on the exhibit being covered up, and he decided to agree to their request. “The agreement is that when such a group arrives we close the curtain and the guide does not explain about those parts. When they leave we open the curtain,” he told Haaretz.

“It has happened 12 times and we would be happy for more – before this year there were no Haredi groups at all, only in a few private frameworks. This year groups come from [Haredi] schools in an organized manner, so I still think this is an achievement,” said Roznitsky.

It is preferable to expose the students to the rest of the worlds the museum has to offer than to refuse their request and have them cancel completely, he says. “My dilemma was either not to close [the curtain] and not agree to the request, and then not to receive this public and not to expose them to the beauty of the other exhibits, or to temporarily close something that is 0.3 percent of all the museum’s space and expose them to the rest: The environment, nature, environmental quality. We have animals in the garden zoo, a beautiful garden. These are children who have never seen an animal in their lives. So I expose them to an entire world. So on behalf of pluralism and education I close this curtain,” said Roznitsky. He completely denies that a visitor who criticized the curtain was told she could leave.

Biology Professor Jerry Coyne from the University of Chicago, who specializes in evolution, read about the affair and sent the museum a letter in which he criticized their decision to cover the exhibit. “As an evolutionary biologist of Jewish ancestry, I am deeply offended at your practice of covering up the human evolution exhibit lest it offend the Haredi Jews who go to your museum. Why would a museum hide the truth, even if it’s offensive to some religious believers? Is this proper in a largely secular state like Israel?”

He also published the letter on his blog “Evolution is True.” Coyne called on his readers to send their own letters to the museum. “I hope you realize that by literally hiding the evidence for human evolution, you are misleading people: in effect, lying by omission. The truth is the truth, regardless of whether some people are offended because it goes against their upbringing; and by catering to the false beliefs of creationists, you are, in effect, censoring whatever science that some people find unpleasant. This kind of behavior makes me ashamed of my Jewish background.”

The Jerusalem municipality said: “The city’s Educational Administration initiated the ‘Jerusalem Advantage’ program in which all the city’s students from all communities are entitled to visit a wide variety of museums in the city within the framework of their studies. Within this program, thousands of students visited the Natural History Museum in the city and enjoyed the exhibitions and exhibits there. As opposed to what has been claimed, the aforementioned exhibit is open regularly to all groups visiting the museum.”

The city said that out of a desire to attract groups from the Haredi community, too, it was decided to agree to the request from Haredi schools and cover a specific exhibit during the visits. “So far, 12 groups from Haredi schools have visited the museum. The Educational Administration will continue to make cultural institutions and enrichment activities accessible to all the city’s students from a viewpoint of tolerance and equal opportunity for everyone.”

Coohoolin posted:

So what's the academic definition of genocide and how applicable is it to what Israel does to Gaza (restricting water, electricity, basic living needs, etc)?

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... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily harm, or harm to mental health, to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Algund Eenboom posted:

Why is this

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Acknowledging the tragic humanity of this propaganda attempt would just be giving him what he wants.

Percelus posted:

if you really want baddems and their idiot supporters to take notice the trick is make it mostly about trump moving the embassy to jerusalem because they can't pay attention to anything non trump related for like 1 minute at a time

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

Lol, they'll get smacked into line and told to shut up. IDF is more fascist than Jewish.

Triangle Shirt Factotum posted:

The ending of the draft exemption is the start of this changing.