BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Nuke Israel

AnimeIsTrash posted:

This poo poo thinking is called Realpolitik and is how the Middle East got trapped in the poo poo scenario it is in today.

Britian and America didn't want the Ottoman empire taking over, so they supported violent fundamentalist tribesmen who went on to found the nation of Saudi Arabia, which treats women, homosexuals, atheists, and other "blasphemers" much the same way Israel is treating Palestinians, except with more bloodshed.

But America and Britian didn't actually like Fundamentalists, they just knew that the Ottomen would've done far worse if they didn't stop them.

America also didn't want Iran gaining too much influence over the Middle East, so they supported their own "leftist" party in the form of the Ba'athists of Iraq against Iran, unsurprisingly that weird guy who ran Iraq went on to use the chemical weapons America gave him on his own citizens. And then America killed him because they don't like other people playing with their toys. His name was Saddam Hussein.

But America never thought Saddam was good. They just knew that the Iram was capable of causing more harm to the middle east, with their children strapped to dynamite, than people who also strapped children to dynamite did.

But he probably wouldn't have been blessed with the power of chemical weaponry in the first place, if it wasn't for the fact that just a few decades before, Iran had this weird guy named Mohammad Mosaddegh, who had the daring idea to nationalize his countries rich supply of Oil. America and Britian didn't want that. So they gave weapons to The Shah and some local Islamic Fundamentalists who forced him to live the rest of his life in prison.

But America and Britian didn't think that The Shah was good, or even fundamentalists, they just knew that an old man doing something that would objectively benefit his countries lives would cause more harm to his country than a dictator who would imprison people just for disagreeing with him.

Iran's leftists weren't happy about this, so they sided with fundamentalists who overthrew the government, who then used the power vacuum to declare themselves the rulers, and turned it into a country where sexism ran rampant, education was poor, and the supreme leader could impose death penalties (with very weak foundations within Islam itself) on people living outside of the country just for writing books he didn't like.

But the leftists didn't knew this would happen before hand, they just "knew" that fundamentalists wouldn't cause as much pain as the Shah.

Just like how Great Britian gave pardons to Italian fascists to prevent Communists from gaining major power in Italy after WW2, leading to the Years Of Lead, which saw neofascists and anarchists killing people in the streets. Just like how America giving pardons to Japanese war criminals lead to racism and unfettered capitalism remaining popular in Japan to the point of declining birth rates. Just like how stalin "befriending" hitler lead to the later betraying the other. Just like how Churchill and Mcarthur allying with him lead to Britian and America's idiotic decisions during the Cold War. Just like Russian leftists siding with the Bolsheviks lead to the violent Third Russian Revolution, which saw many killed and the rise of the idology of Tankism. Just like how Leon Trotsky siding with stalin lead to him getting stabbed in the head with a pickaxe.

Just like how Jewish people who thought they could avoid getting killed by the nazis by yelling at and beating slaves, ended up being known as Kapo, and were just as likely to be gased for looking at a superior wrong as the ones they betrayed.

No. Supporting Hamas and the other idiotic groups who give Palestinians and Arabs a bad name is an vile idea, even if we have "good intentions" behind it. It'll just lead to the same exact discussions we're having here, a few couple decades from now, but with Palestinians swapped out for "Homosexuals" or "Jews" or "Feminists" or whatever.

Ironically, the fact that people seem to think that supporting Hamas is the ONLY option for opposing Israel's violent genocide is proof of the Government's propaganda working. Why can't we support the dozens of leftists, activists, and actual loving Palestinians, who very much DO NOT like the Genocide going on, without supporting an violent miltary group like Hamas?

Like, I doubt any of the homosexuals who live in Gaza are treated very well by either party. What makes you think supporting the ones who want to kill them for their sexuality rather than their nationality is what they'd prefer?

Yet, we pretend to act like Hamas' solution won't just be putting out a fire with flame throwers, but also, that it is the only option. Almost like the Israeli government wants us to believe that the only people who oppose them are insane militant brown people. We know they're wrong, yet we constantly fail to support the people that'd prove them such.

It's banal.

Support the Ctizens, not the Authority. Otherwise we'd be causing the stupid circle of bullshit to continue. No more.

TheNamedSavior posted:

You unironically support putin.

SplitSoul posted:

He gave me a 12'er for backseat modding for saying "Don't everyone speak all at once" when he announced they wanted an IK for the Scandithread and then nobody posted for nine straight days.

Southpaugh posted:

https://twitter.com/punished_stu/status/1598729061702012939?s=48&t=otfYZwbJuE39OtManq66rA

i say swears online posted:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/368068

i say swears online posted:

gently caress man i definitely would have guessed english as a second language because i was correcting typos while going through it with stuff to bold

Terminal autist posted:

Nuke tel aviv

Digital Jedi posted:

Good start

Truga posted:

tatankatonk posted:

https://twitter.com/SenFettermanPA/status/1710665719526900070

thechosenone posted:

Does anyone think iran and other relevant countries will let the Taliban come in to help? I feel like it would be the best case scenario for Palestine, but is it even realistic at all?

FlapYoJacks posted:

I hope Palestine conquers Israel and steps on their neck for 100 years just as they have done to the Palestinians.

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err posted:

People in this forum told me she was antiwar

Nix Panicus posted:

I endorse the current title except for calling Hamas a terrorist group. They are Freedom Fighters and should be referred to as such

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

terrorism Ftw.

Smythe posted:

theres going to be a lot of people "hatereading" this thread and postint screenshots of the "unhinged cspammers" into their discords tomorrow

genericnick posted:

Didn't Israel end up with a ton of covid vaccines they couldn't get anyone to take while the Palestinians had none? I can only assume they handed them over in a gesture of goodwill. Not looking into this further.

Echo Chamber posted:

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