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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Atlantic posted:

TEL AVIV—While predictions of doom in Israeli-Palestinian relations tend to come easy, the worst doesn’t always come to pass. But thanks to a pair of major upcoming anniversaries, the vagaries of the Jewish and Muslim calendars, and the whimsy of President Donald Trump, the coming week could be different. The confluence of numerous events set to take place over a few days in May has felt, as it approaches, like a perfect storm gathering.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/israel-jerusalem-embassy-syria-iran/560093/
poo poo getting real starting tomorrow? :thunk:

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


He really is trying to turn Brazil into America 2: Fash Harder

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


it would own so much if this opens up a rift between Jewish Americans and Israel

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

wrap it up Gantzailures

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1114587779722301440

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

the Israeli far right has spent a while openly telegraphing their intentions to weaken or overturn any governmental entity capable of acting as a check on their dominance in the Knesset. for example, calling for the courts to be weakened and for the power of judicial review to be taken away

and this election was in large part a referendum on the blatant corruption and growing fascist tendencies in Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's longest-sitting PM in history

if he wins again, he's gonna take it as his green light from the voters to get real fascist real fast

I feel like a war against Hezbollah is probably next. Netanyahu knows it's inevitable, Trump is the friendliest US president he'll ever have to get away with whatever he wants, and his last year in office could be next year.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

Looks like the only change post election is the opposition getting more right wing

also the government

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Real hurthling! posted:

they also want to make mitigating jordans insane debt crisis contingent on giving up support for palestine
israel likewise is making badly needed new fresh water projects in jordan contingent on not fighting for palestine.

in effect jordan can either do what its allies want and have a rebellion brewing or say no and crash the economy and have people dying of thirst by the thousands

now that I think of it, how has Jordan managed to stay relatively stable this long as it is? Surely ISIS and other salafis in Syria and Iraq detested their monarchy and it would seem they've had ample opportunity to gently caress with it

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


wonder how long it took him to think of "current political and cultural ethos" as something to put between "Palestinians" and "is"

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

Likud wants to cancel elections somehow :allears:

it's legally shaky at best, but would likely garner decent support if Bibi could somehow put together a coalition with a decent majority

why would that be possible now if it wasn't before

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

lol

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1156197410198228993

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

alright I'm going to Nate Silver the Tuesday election lol

Likud 37
Blue&White 31
Joint List 11
Shas 8
UTJ 9
Yamina 7
Labor 0 :v:
Yisrael Beitenu 9
Dem Union 4
Otzma Yehudit 4 :getin:

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Real hurthling! posted:

which of those is not evil?

Well, the Joint List, and uhm...*checks notes* let's see, evil, evil, literally Satan, evil, a cult, an evil cult, visited Epstein between 10 and 100 times, evil enablers, evil...and yeah.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Pryor on Fire posted:

Not looking good for Bibi, this may be the end of his hilarious hi-jinx.

Nah, even if he's short of a majority he still might be able to poach some of Blue and White to build one. Otherwise there'll be a third election lol

there's really no alternative to rule Israel. Gantz is a dumb oaf and the rest of Likud are Bibi sycophants

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1197554904946151424

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun/status/1391493582641582080

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Main Paineframe posted:

wouldn't be the first time Bibi started a war right before a dicey-looking election

it's right after one. he's trying to prevent an opposition government from forming

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

https://twitter.com/uribreitman/status/1391851939906850818

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

has hezbollah made any moves in all this?

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Ringo Roadagain posted:

Ive been following Palestine/Israel stuff since I guess around the 2006 invasion of Lebanon, and in those 15 years I dont really recall any instances of the palestinians living in Israel rioting like this. Its possible I am forgetting, but this seems like a very big deal.

Yeah, presumably this is a battle wholly between Israeli citizens, Jews and Arabs.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


sut...da fuk up

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Jezza fuckin owns. Nonce island didn't deserve him

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1392219776785817600

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

three infantry brigades mobilized

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1392593017291280389

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

shits wild
https://twitter.com/OmarBaddar/status/1392689817847279618

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


goddamn, this could be The Big One

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

christmas boots posted:

Nothing is going to happen to Israel. Eventually at some point the Palestinians will be effectively wiped out as a people. Then some years after the fact we'll look back on it with shame and indignation. We'll say we should have done something. We made mistakes but we've learned from. More than that, we've made changes. We'll promise that something like this will never happen again. And on it goes.

I'm not saying "it's different this time" but it does feel like the nature of this conflict is shifting somewhat. Just the fact that there has been street fighting between Jews and Arabs in Israel is new, unexpected, and I guarantee has got heads spinning in Washington. It really does call into question the future viability of Israel as a coherent state. Yeah they can sit on the West Bank and Gaza forever as occupied territory, but what do they do when their enemies are their own citizens?

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Grizzled Patriarch posted:




i would say all of the "lets mark all the homes of arab citizens in israel for targeted mob violence" and the fact that netanyahu just called for the administrative detention of israeli arabs (i.e. imprisonment without trial for crimes that haven't even been committed) is a pretty clear indicator of what they're going to do

and if Israel Kristalnacht-ing their own citizens is the future of that country, it just doesn't indicate stability. It shows a regime on the defensive in a war that can never be won. Even in the 80s, I wonder if it looked like white rule in South Africa would last forever. Israel is obviously not going to go the same way, but I look at the events of the past few days and it just looks like the center cannot hold.

In a similar vein I wonder if, after the recent violence dies down, Netanyahu will be forced out of office by American pressure. He induced this war for political reasons, after all, and the mob violence in Israel is going to be real hard to paper over (for PR reasons in the US, obviously Israelis don't give a poo poo). He could be a useful scapegoat so the media can say, "see? the bad man that was leading Israel down the path of fascism is gone, now it's ok to like Israel again"

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


you know there's some dork out there who is really mad about this

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

https://twitter.com/Mahyar3138/status/1394686939844988933

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Hedenius posted:

I tried to check what the "surge in anti-Semitic attacks" actually means since I've seen about a billion articles about it lately. Most of the very few articles that actually bother to give you a source refer to the ADL. So what does the ADL say?



This is what we're supposed to be worried about insted of murdered Palestinians.

I found it, I found the antisemitism. It's in Bal Harbour, Florida, known hotbed of radical Islam and the dirtbag left:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/aventura/article251584103.html



Who yells that? The cops do lmao

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


lmao

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


Cenk is such an Xer lol

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

oxsnard posted:

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1397150992341377027?s=19

actually not sure it's directly antisemitic but it's extremely yikes

it's not antisemitic it's just more rightwing triggered snowflake bullshit

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


:wow:

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


Isn't Bennett even more right wing than Netanyahu

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

https://twitter.com/ilangoldenberg/status/1398341375926718464

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Horseshoe theory posted:

They're both Likudnik propaganda against their perceived enemies - it has nothing to do show with a rightward shift since it's Us vs. Them.

Going to be funny when a Kahanist government gets elected next time

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

1stGear posted:

I would like to think this is the endpoint of idpol being weaponized to defang leftism, but I have a terrible feeling we aren't even out of the starting gate on that.

tired: idpol being weaponized to defang leftism
wired: idpol being weaponized to excuse fascism

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

https://youtu.be/_i7TXqxGDbM

new government vote of confidence begins in ~40 minutes. watch bibi and/or bennet eat poo poo live

earlier today bibi already tried to pressure a Ra'am Bedouin MK by threatening to demolish half his home village if he votes in favor so who knows what might happen

It would be very funny if another Yamina psycho decide to defect

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Is there a Birthright for Evangelicals yet? If not, you know it's coming

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