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Farad'n Corrino is Harq al Ada, married to Ghanima and a foundational block of the Golden Path.
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Mister Speaker posted:Farad'n is Feyd's boy, isn't he? Nah. He's the deposed Emperor's grandson and Irulan's nephew.
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Mister Speaker posted:Farad'n is Feyd's boy, isn't he?
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Apr 8, 2024 21:03
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Oh right. Who is it trying to kill Leto and Ghanima with the laser tigers again? Some Bene Gesserit RM? Children is IMO the weakest book and I haven't read it in a lot longer than some of the other ones. While I'm here, is it mentioned in the original book that Guild navigators are mutated and tank-bound because of the spice, or is that something from the encyclopedia or later books? I know the Emperor's conversation with a 'stage four navigator' in the Lynch film is largely cribbed from details from the later books but I can't remember how much of the navigator myth is OG.
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Just read the synopsis of that part of “Paul of Dune” and got mad about how lovely and dumb the failson books are
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Mister Speaker posted:Oh right. Who is it trying to kill Leto and Ghanima with the laser tigers again? Some Bene Gesserit RM? Children is IMO the weakest book and I haven't read it in a lot longer than some of the other ones. Farad'n's mother Wensica was the mastermind of that scheme, if I recall correctly, although my memory might be more of the SciFi miniseries version, which might not be entirely book accurate.
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priznat posted:Just read the synopsis of that part of “Paul of Dune” and got mad about how lovely and dumb the failson books are They're so loving bad
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Improbable Lobster posted:They're so loving bad Even children of dune is a goddamn masterpiece in comparison
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Bezoar posted:Indeed, but Denis did add the pain box to this in a move that made me and a few friends of mine wonder if we misremembered the book. That sequence was so good too
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Mister Speaker posted:Farad'n is Feyd's boy, isn't he?
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I think people are wrongly equating the golden path being necessary to Herbert actually advocating a “stern hand” and authoritarian government. Remember one of the most important parts of the plan was making people so sick of that very thing that they’d develop a cultural aversion to it so that no one is ever able to do it again. Plus he literally hits you over the head with the message that nothing human, only an inhuman monster, could have actually done so. I sincerely doubt that Herbert thought an immortal Jabba the Hutt who could see all possible pasts and futures was something replicate-able in the real world. Part of sci-fi is looking at how new or “impossible” things completely change the context of morality and ethics of human actions. To bring it back to what Spazzle said about Foundation, In a lot of ways GEoD is about showing how prescience doesn’t lead to benign liberal technocrats guiding man to the “right choices”, it leads to incomprehensible tyrants completely detached from standard human morality.
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uhum, uhum, yes, we should shun the dickless worm, i agree, go on
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Bubblyblubber posted:uhum, uhum, yes, we should shun the dickless worm, i agree, go on Avoid the reeking herd, Shun the dickless worm, Live like that stoic bird, The eagle of the.. sperm?.
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If you unlock your genetic memories, wouldn't you just have the memories of a bunch of horny young people? How would that help at all?
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At least it would select against incel memories
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They say an incel dies twice. The first time happens when their hearts stops beating and the second time happens when someone has a genetic memory of them for the last time. so uh both deaths happen simultaneously
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galagazombie posted:I think people are wrongly equating the golden path being necessary to Herbert actually advocating a “stern hand” and authoritarian government. Remember one of the most important parts of the plan was making people so sick of that very thing that they’d develop a cultural aversion to it so that no one is ever able to do it again. Plus he literally hits you over the head with the message that nothing human, only an inhuman monster, could have actually done so. I sincerely doubt that Herbert thought an immortal Jabba the Hutt who could see all possible pasts and futures was something replicate-able in the real world. Part of sci-fi is looking at how new or “impossible” things completely change the context of morality and ethics of human actions. To bring it back to what Spazzle said about Foundation, In a lot of ways GEoD is about showing how prescience doesn’t lead to benign liberal technocrats guiding man to the “right choices”, it leads to incomprehensible tyrants completely detached from standard human morality. On top of this, Leto’s cunning plan only works in so far as it scatters humans into a bunch of unknown frontier zones that have no political contact and thus can’t imperialize all over each other. Removing worm cycle, prescience, navigator monopoly etc from the equation did absolutely nothing to keep people from becoming incomprehensible amoral tyrants obsessed with the greater good, they will just become tyrants with sex magic/slo mo cheats/cat people instead.
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skasion posted:worm cycle, prescience, navigator monopoly [...] tyrants with sex magic/slo mo cheats/cat people We need a cadaver synod w/ ole Frank where we just yell "stop it, you weirdo! Stop being weird!!" for a few hours
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i for one welcome our new catgirl overlords
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Bubblyblubber posted:i for one welcome our new catgirl overlords Catgirls are underpeople unfortunately. The new overlords are mind controlling escort/freemasons who even if you sever their entire nervous system have rigorously trained their legs to autonomously kick you to death
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captain innocuous posted:If you unlock your genetic memories, wouldn't you just have the memories of a bunch of horny young people? How would that help at all? This is one of the most fascinating unexplored angles of that ability. Thousands of lives' worth of memories, but no old people.
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Does it actually work that way? Alia's memories don't seem to be limited to The Young Baron. Many strange implications. Wouldn't there be some incentive to wait until people are older so those Reverend Mothers get as many memories as possible?
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BGs/Fremen reverend mothers have a bunch of internal old people because they get memories from Sharing and not just heredity
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Also due to spice longevity, wasn't the Baron supposed to be like 80?
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skasion posted:Catgirls are underpeople unfortunately. The new overlords are mind controlling escort/freemasons who even if you sever their entire nervous system have rigorously trained their legs to autonomously kick you to death
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Also due to spice longevity, wasn't the Baron supposed to be like 80? yes dr Yueh was supposed to be 103 
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The Sausages posted:I'm almost sure this is a reference to that other fictional universe where a rugged people hold a monopoly on a life-extending substance that can only be produced by giant animals on their desert planet. I hope so but tbh, Smith’s underpeople are way way more interesting than whatever the futars are supposed to be
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skasion posted:Catgirls are underpeople unfortunately. The new overlords are mind controlling escort/freemasons who even if you sever their entire nervous system have rigorously trained their legs to autonomously kick you to death hot i mean, awful, terrible, please don't murder me in the throes of ecstasy praying mantis space mommy
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Vampire Panties posted:yes A hundred birthdays are not enough for Yueh
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I'm reading Heretics and it's pretty wild. There are two Bene Gesserit in a room, and one of them says something like "How's it going" and the other says "Fine" and then there are paragraphs of unspoken moves and countermoves as they attempt to read the very serious important meaning implied by those words. Then this repeats with two other Bene Gesserit in a room on another planet. And if any of them have a nice set of mommy milkers, you're gonna hear about it. Using my mentat powers of straight-line computation, I found 87 instances of the words "breed," "breeding," "bred," and/or "breeder" in the text. Who was it who said that you read Messiah to find out what happened to Paul, Children to find out what happened to the Atreides, God Emperor to find out what happened to the Imperium, and Heretics/Chapterhouse to find out what happened to Frank Herbert? I'm finding out.
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ow geez ow ow ow that honored matre kicked me right in the beefswelling and now my girdershape is all bent ow gently caress ow
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm reading Heretics and it's pretty wild. There are two Bene Gesserit in a room, and one of them says something like "How's it going" and the other says "Fine" and then there are paragraphs of unspoken moves and countermoves as they attempt to read the very serious important meaning implied by those words. Then this repeats with two other Bene Gesserit in a room on another planet. And if any of them have a nice set of mommy milkers, you're gonna hear about it. Frank's missus got hella ill (Cancer of the lots or something) and Frank was her carer. I presume he was kinda pent up sponging her titties day in day out.
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Bubblyblubber posted:ow geez ow ow ow that honored matre kicked me right in the beefswelling and now my girdershape is all bent ow gently caress ow Haw haw -- lookit that gross protuberance!
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Halloween Jack posted:A hundred birthdays are not enough for Yueh
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Bubblyblubber posted:ow geez ow ow ow that honored matre kicked me right in the beefswelling and now my girdershape is all bent ow gently caress ow
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He mentions HMs disemboweling someone with a kick. Super Saiyan Teg chopped a dude's head off with his hand. In both cases the speed of the attack is stressed, so I think it's the logical conclusion of the prana/bindu stuff. Alternatively, the "speed kills" campaign started in 1968. Frank was really trying to promote safe driving practice.
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I would guess Frank had a yearly or lifetime subscription to National Geographic and he read a cool article on some lil shrimp or the like that has an attack faster than thoughttm.
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Yeah, this is the kind of science fiction I love, the kind that takes advertisements in comic books seriously and imagines that the Ubermensch will be a master of neurolinguistic programming and Count Dante's World's Deadliest Fighting Secrets. Also this is weird: Heretics of Dune posted:Without looking up, Taraza said: "I was glad when both you and Lucilla accepted the assignment. It makes my task much easier."
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