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akadajet posted:Chrome is the gold standard web browser implementation and lol if you use anything else. yeah, sort of true of course, much like ie4, 5 and 6 from '97 long into the naughts, and webdevs back then certainly didn't bother considering or testing outside of those either, but i still played around with the crashtastic netscape releases of the day, mozilla nightlies and so on sometimes the road less travelled is just a bit of fun you know
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akadajet posted:As a web dev, I don't test my poo poo for either browser. Use Chrome. that’s a terrible way to approach sites as a web dev. these days there’s really no excuse for a site that only works in a single browser ultravoices posted:saving your employer money for electricity. I specifically have my charging schedule synced up so that all my devices charge at work, sorry employer
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My Linux Rig posted:I specifically have my charging schedule synced up so that all my devices charge at work, sorry employer  i just leave most of my chargers at work now. saves me $20+ a month
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HoboMan posted:
do devices seriously use up $20 a month of electricity?? I always figure it’d be a buck max
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My Linux Rig posted:that’s a terrible way to approach sites as a web dev. these days there’s really no excuse for a site that only works in a single browser If it works in the reference web browser (chrome) and not in your lovely web browser, then your web browser is broken and it's your responsibility to fix it.
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akadajet posted:If it works in the reference web browser (chrome) and not in your lovely web browser, then your web browser is broken and it's your responsibility to fix it. *churns out a bunch of pages with lovely css and JavaScript* hey it works in chrome!
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My Linux Rig posted:*churns out a bunch of pages with lovely css and JavaScript* hey it works in chrome! I can't help that your code is horrible, but if it works in Chrome then the behavior is correct.
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Dec 11, 2017 21:10
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akadajet posted:I can't help that your code is horrible, but if it works in Chrome then the behavior is correct. so the way that chrome makes flexbox so full of gotchas that it's loving useless is the correct implementation?
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Dec 11, 2017 21:41
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chrome is going to be the new ie6, isn't it? "uh, this page doesn't display correctly in firefox or safari" "works for me in chrome" *CLOSED* *WONTFIX*
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Dec 11, 2017 21:42
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HoboMan posted:
maybe 30-40 dollars a year if we're talking about 50W 24 hours a day and a .10 kwh cost.
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Dec 11, 2017 21:46
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ultravoices posted:maybe 30-40 dollars a year if we're talking about 50W 24 hours a day and a .10 kwh cost. idk i'm just going by my electricity bill. i have a lovely android that chews through it's battery in like 4 hours if i turn off power saving mode though e: and i mean without me even using it
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Dec 11, 2017 21:53
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HoboMan posted:idk i'm just going by my electricity bill. i have a lovely android that chews through it's battery in like 4 hours if i turn off power saving mode though a phone is like 6 watts.
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Dec 11, 2017 21:56
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HoboMan posted:so the way that chrome makes flexbox so full of gotchas that it's loving useless is the correct implementation? idk what you are talking about. chrome flexbox works just fine.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:35
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The_Franz posted:chrome is going to be the new ie6, isn't it? no. chrome gets updated like every week with good stuff.
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but when will the superfluous "r" be removed...
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The_Franz posted:chrome is going to be the new ie6, isn't it? that’s already happening, it’s why you see a push from Mozilla and Microsoft to improve their browsers even so though, really? 10 minutes to test your page in another browser to make sure you aren’t churning out garbage is too much to ask? 🙄 i mean the standards today are implemented pretty evenly right now, so it’s not even a huge ask. though, that might change if google can dictate the standard
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Dec 12, 2017 02:40
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My Linux Rig posted:even so though, really? 10 minutes to test your page in another browser to make sure you arent churning out garbage is too much to ask? 🙄 my time is expensive. it's much cheaper for you to download and use a better web browser.
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u paid for the whole browser
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The_Franz posted:chrome is going to be the new ie6, isn't it? i've used lovely backoffice software web apps that crow at you multiple times that they only work in chrome and you should only be using chrome to access them. seemed to mostly work fine in other browsers but the gall of that is quite something when a major selling point of uploading all your poo poo to this no-name company's servers is that it's universally accessible from anywhere maybe that warning was just shorthand for 'PLEASE DON'T ACCESS THIS WITH INTERNET EXPLORER AND EXPECT IT TO WORK' idk
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To be honest. I'm glad our company now only supports the latest version of IE and Edge. I don't know what the timeline to get off of IE completely is since it's the only thing available with the LTSB versions of Windows.
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George posted:u paid for the whole browser but you'll only need the chrome
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carry on then posted:but you'll only need the chome
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The Management posted:the new Firefox is surprisingly not awful anymore. also the rendering engine looks a lot like WebKit and distinctly not blurry like gecko they're still using gecko. but maybe you enabled webrender?
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The_Franz posted:chrome is going to be the new ie6, isn't it? https://twitter.com/AirbnbHelp/status/752829250198245376 https://twitter.com/GrouponHelpUS/status/934896721842225152 https://twitter.com/stshank/status/938791228564389888 https://twitter.com/jacobrossi/status/872543383964631040 and of course GOOG https://twitter.com/cpeterso/status/920733889651384321 https://twitter.com/pcwalton/status/929099975878782976
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N.Z.'s Champion posted:they're still using gecko. but maybe you enabled webrender? they've been merging servo into gecko so it's changing quite a bit
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nah quantum has integrated Stylo and the mp4 decoder (and a few other minor things) but the major parts like the layout engine and webrender aren't yet ready or integrated. i think webrender might be under a nightly flag though. for historical reasons servo is both the project name and the layout engine so when moz they talk about quantum they use both terms interchangably
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N.Z.'s Champion posted:https://twitter.com/AirbnbHelp/status/752829250198245376 mmmm I wonder what kind of web standards hell awaits us from an ad company
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still better than 5 loving years of stagnation with ie6
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nope. all the changes since IE6 have been infinitely worse for the web. the abuse of javascript caused by failfox and chome have ruined the internet forever.
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Shaggar posted:nope. all the changes since IE6 have been infinitely worse for the web. the abuse of javascript caused by failfox and chome have ruined the internet forever. it's like the new get off my lawn.
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it is pretty hilarious how web devs circled around and eventually landed on the worst loving tech: javascript
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Last Chance posted:it is pretty hilarious how web devs circled around and eventually landed on the worst loving tech: javascript when your other options are flash and java applets the choice is pretty obvious
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qirex posted:when your other options are flash and java applets the choice is pretty obvious Suicide.
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Last Chance posted:it is pretty hilarious how web devs circled around and eventually landed on the worst loving tech: javascript it's hilarious how yosposters seem to think javascript today is the same language from 1997
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Shaggar posted:it is says the moron who thinks ie6 was good
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IE6 was good.
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akadajet posted:it's hilarious how yosposters seem to think javascript today is the same language from 1997 it has definitely mutated into something worse, yes
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Shaggar posted:IE6 was good. Right, and everything afterwards has been downhill.
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