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The only way I can imagine they'd find an audience is if they go really reactionary. Play up the flag-worship and make a big deal about banning player protests during games. Loosen up the safety regulations and let players clobber the poo poo out of each other again. What could possibly go wrong?
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Ideal world: XFL lasts until the CBA and the NFL locks the players out again so the XFL gets teams of NFL all stars
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Dec 17, 2017 04:10
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I don't think what high a head on pike we're hanging here to say that these people literally will sell this to the masses.
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Can you imagine trying to watch a football game with the announcers using WWE's awful corporate-branded verbiage? "Johnny Manziel drops back, creates separation ... OH WHAT A MOVE, THIS COULD GET THEM A CHAMPIONSHIP OPPORTUNITY" "THE XFL2 UNIVERSE IS LOVING IT MAGGLE" "Please welcome my guest at this time, Tim Tebow"
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Dec 17, 2017 04:57
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You can watch every XFL game LIVE and REPLAYS for only $9.99.
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Dec 17, 2017 04:59
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This will fail becaus no one actually likes smash mouth football
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Dec 17, 2017 06:07
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Benne posted:Can you imagine trying to watch a football game with the announcers using WWE's awful corporate-branded verbiage? Better than Joe Buck
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Dec 17, 2017 06:23
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shyduck posted:I wonder which cable channel this'll be buried on If history is any precedent, USA.
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xfl on pbs is supported by our generous sponsors and viewers like you
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I would assume lots of players wouldn’t want to play for the anti protest league (and all that entails) and so you’re draining the talent pool even further.
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TheBizzness posted:I would assume lots of players wouldn’t want to play for the anti protest league (and all that entails) and so you’re draining the talent pool even further. not gonna lie if they were labeled the 'anti protest league' I would love to see a protest outside the stadium outnumber the attendees. I feel like that could actually happen
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Dec 17, 2017 07:55
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It'll probably die but just imagine if Jerry Jones is crazy enough to go to Vince just to spite Roger
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Because of the call it 'lower middle class' of NFL players being pushed out of the league a year or so after their rookie deals, and good but old veterans suddenly ending their careers two years early, there are good football players who aren't in the NFL. Arena football has the fast paced action you'd think people might want from football, some teams do good business based on ticket sales. There's enough interest to support a few leagues, although at very minor league salaries. One of the biggest reasons the XFL failed was the disdain the sporting press held it in. It wasn't the NFL so noses were held. Remember NFL writers mocking Al Davis's skin cancer? They really like towing the company line. With the internet there's a chance for reportage outside that, but there's also a chance for immediate backlash and for the sport's abandonment. People are already queasy about football hits, so selling it based on bigger hits like the original is out of the question. The absence of good pro style quarterbacks is much discussed, maybe if they ran 100 yard professional- college football offenses, spreading the ball, running like crazy, and having plenty of spread QBs and linemen who are good at what they do means there's a talent pool. Making it like big time spread focused college football with wrestling style pageantry and an accompanying reality show so people can bond with characters is a way it could succeed. The main problem is that second tier, non college leagues who try to compete with established leagues haven't done well for any length of time, since maybe the WHL? Americans really hate the idea that they're not watching the best of the best, like random Joe hates that he's wasting his time watching the 60th best QB instead of the 44th. He's a special guy, only the best for him. There would need to be a hook, a way to keep venues full, and lots of content and churn. The XFL did bring the great zippy zip camera. If they could use that QB view camera all the time it would be great. There are lots of ways of covering the game that aren't being used that could be brought to the public's attention.
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Dejan Bimble posted:Because of the call it 'lower middle class' of NFL players being pushed out of the league a year or so after their rookie deals, and good but old veterans suddenly ending their careers two years early, there are good football players who aren't in the NFL. Counterpoint to every single thing you said: Vince McMahon. There's no hope of good football, because players good enough for pro football will just sign with an NFL team instead of the trashy bush league (with zero benefits or health coverage because lol no players union here). It'll be nothing but the godawful rejects and Jeff Fisher-type shitheads who properly washed out of pro football for good reasons. Add in the obvious MAGA inspirations, and Vince's long, well-documented history of embarrassing failure outside of pro wrestling, and this will all just be history repeating itself.
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Benne posted:Counterpoint to every single thing you said: Vince McMahon. This is exactly right. It's going to be promoted with all of the trashy XFL things that brought the league down, the talent pool won't be there, and it will ultimately fail. A league that would work, for what it's worth, would be a mini-league in the spring/summer that would essentially act as auditioning for NFL training camp rosters during the time between the NFL draft and training camp (and during the time when the sports world is down to just baseball).
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Its looking like being called UFL: Your Football League based on trademarks
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What if they purposefully assemble the worst defenses possible so there’s lots of scoring.
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Yodzilla posted:What if they purposefully assemble the worst defenses possible so there’s lots of scoring. The horrible defenses will be negated by inexcusable drops and inaccurate QBs overthrowing wide open receivers by 10 yards.
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Wait arent we meant to post something like "isn't that just called the Big 12"
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Chip Kelly is going to be a coach in this league. Along with Jeff Fisher
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algebra testes posted:Its looking like being called UFL: Your Football League based on trademarks Ur Football League
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Athanatos posted:Brock can make an NFL roster. This was/is an entire league of guys who cant.  Well, that takes care of the QB position.
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Have a full tournament in the first few weeks to determine the champion, then let's play by wrestling rules for real, and whoever wins gets the belt. Then you can just play football 52 weeks a year and multiple cities can be XFL Super Bowl champions. As for the network, well hell, you already have a WWE network, put the games on there.
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CyberPingu posted:Chip Kelly is going to be a coach in this league. Along with Jeff Fisher They can’t afford to pay Chip Kelly what UCLA is.
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Vince can't even do good wrestling tournaments and he can book the outcome, so him doing a football one would be a 100% worse So I'm in
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it;s loving perfect that we will get to see jeff fisher and john fox coach against each other in whatever super bowl equivalent this is going to have.
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Dec 17, 2017 18:59
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Steve Austin can finally get a new Las Vegas Outlaws jersey
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Vince can't even do good wrestling tournaments and he can book the outcome, so him doing a football one would be a 100% worse He could rig the XFL too to get the outcome he wants. Who would care?
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They should just go all-in and make the whole thing a work. Predetermined outcomes, heel teams, cutting promos on each other in the middle of the game, and, of course, the best thing in all of wrestling -- ripping off your shirt to reveal another shirt of your true allegiance. It's not like the actual football will be worth a drat.
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Benne posted:They should just go all-in and make the whole thing a work. Predetermined outcomes, heel teams, cutting promos on each other in the middle of the game, and, of course, the best thing in all of wrestling -- ripping off your shirt to reveal another shirt of your true allegiance. Finally, a real life NFL Blitz.
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Silly Burrito posted:Finally, a real life NFL Blitz. i'll take 8 season passes
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Why does he think this will work? The XFL was a massive failure, people recall it as an embarrassment, no major networks are going to carry it, the talent pool will be non-existent. What is his logic here?
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Yaws posted:What is his logic here? HE'S VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON DAMNIT
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Enough time has passed that there is now a nostalgia factor at play. People will be ironically watching and enjoying it
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Yaws posted:Why does he think this will work? The XFL was a massive failure, people recall it as an embarrassment, no major networks are going to carry it, the talent pool will be non-existent. He is a stupid old coservative that thinks football is ruined by crying about head injuries and distespecting our flag and that he can get a tv company to foot the bill to broadcast a new league because people need ~content~
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Silly Burrito posted:He could rig the XFL too to get the outcome he wants. Who would care? WWE tournaments as a whole for the main roster are always bad even with Vince controlling the results. I have no reason to believe the XFL 2 would be different
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Maybe it will be a spring/summer league. I'd watch that.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:Enough time has passed that there is now a nostalgia factor at play. People will be ironically watching and enjoying it Just look at this thread lol
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yeah I'll probably tune in myself for the giggles but in all honesty I hope it's unironically good and watchable. the NFL needs some sort of competition to humble it dear God please let it happen
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