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The Nastier Nate posted:My son is only 3 but I imagine the first time he comes home from school and tells me he had an active shooter drill my brain is gonna break in new ways I didn’t know was possible.
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gradenko_2000 posted:you mean swarming the shooter with warm bodies and hoping there's more targets than they have bullets
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Slugnoid posted:it's great the stuff you can get when your govt doesn't blow your tax dollars on bombs and submarines
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It means that a political will only exists to expand the MIC while there's none to fix healthcare.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They really are blowing the money though, literally and not just figuratively. Military spending has no economic value because the only time you're going to use military equipment is to destroy something or it gets destroyed. Why pay a million dollars for a tomahawk cruise missile when you could have just flushed it all down the toilet?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:no dude. either the money spent on the military doesn’t make any difference or it does. by saying it could be used to fill potholes, you’re acknowledging that if’s a misdirection of resources which could also be spent on healthcare. Larry Parrish posted:hes just saying that people could be paying a slightly higher income tax or something instead of 25% of their paycheck on healthcare and still pay for it all. you're also right tho. imagine how epic things would be if we took just one stupidly overbudgeted (and yet, underdelivering and overtime) military project and spent it on a jobs program to fix roads or replant forests or w.e.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is a dumb handwaving that assumes we can only do something as stupid as the ACA, which just handed out money to private insurers so they would cover poor people. Admittedly though, it would probably help the health outcomes of Middle Easterners substantially.
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Jun 3, 2018 17:04
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You're both missing the point about political economy, which is that the government being the issuer of payment does make a difference - because even in an imperfect medicare for all system the government represents everyone in the system as the primary buyer of healthcare and can drive down costs. None of which is possible without a political will to realize it. It's allowing healthcare to operate outside of the political economy as a private enterprise which creates so much waste in the system. Pener Kropoopkin posted:Military spending on the other hand is inherently wasteful regardless of how efficient and effective it may be. Even if the defense industry produced a Joint Strike Fighter that was actually good at what it does and came in under the deadline with no additional costs from intentional engineering flaws - it would still be a waste of resources from a social and economic viewpoint.
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Taintrunner posted:gently caress gossip, though. Let's be honest here.
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