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Didn't Volfred not want to be sent up?
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Aug 1, 2018 01:57
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He would never put himself before the rest of the party.
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Aug 1, 2018 02:10
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T'izo. First in, first out. Bertrude and Volfred were late to the party.
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Aug 1, 2018 02:57
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Get Volfred all up in there.
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Aug 1, 2018 03:11
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Ti'zo. Bertrude doesn't really mind downside (especially if Volfred's still there) and Volfred's plan was never really intended to demand his personal presence. Just people he trusted. And who the hell wouldn't trust Ti'zo?
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Aug 1, 2018 06:05
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Solumin posted:I will say that Oralech should not be anointed. The motivation behind the liberation rights is to reward those who have achieved enlightenment and absolve them of their crimes. Oralech may have achieved enlightenment once, but his anger has consumed him. By trying to end the rights, he cannot stand to benefit from them. You talk about Oralech as not being worthy of the rites, yet our party has subverted them to put agents into positions of influence for a revolution to disrupt the whole system. We too are trying to end the rites.
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Aug 1, 2018 07:22
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GunnerJ posted:Didn't Volfred not want to be sent up? He asked not to be the first sent up, but that was long ago.
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Aug 1, 2018 08:16
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Anoint Volfred. It's too poetic to finish the Plan with its architect than to do it any other way.
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Aug 1, 2018 10:20
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  : Liberation – Gameplay : Music: Never To ReturnThus ends the Liberation Rite. And thus, the Scribes have chosen:  : …Praise the Scribes, we’ve done it. : You look upon Volfred for what you expect shall be the last time you see each other. Any moment now, the Shimmer-Pool shall engulf him. Any moment now, he shall return to glory, and join his agents in the Commonwealth to help achieve the Plan. Any moment now, the cycle of the Rites shall end, until at least the dawn of a new age.: Any moment now… Ahem. And thus, the Scribes have chosen. And thus, the Scribes have chosen…?! And thus, the SCRIBES HAVE CHOSEN?! No…. Nightwings!! Reader! What have you done…?!   : …Hold…. There’s something wrong.: Each prior time upon the Fall of Soliam, the Shimmer-Pool has opened, following the Liberation Rite, and taken in whichever exile prevailed. But now, all is still, and the light of the stars above has all but died. You sense a growing fear that it is already too late, that the Shimmer-Pool shall not reveal itself again.: Oralech approaches, his head bowed. : …The Eight Scribes saved their greatest treachery for last.: Then, something else catches his notice. : …Wait.: A sudden rush of starlight cascades through the stillness of the summit. : Volfred looks upon it, but it does not engulf him, or at least, not yet.: …It seems I was mistaken, then.: The Eight Scribes… this is not their greatest treachery. It is their greatest jest. The Shimmer-Pool is flung wide open.: It seems that all are worthy, now, of freedom.: Oralech strides toward the Shimmer-Pool, but… : Oralech glances over at The Lone Minstrel, almost in surprise. : The Shimmer-Pool has lost most of its strength. You step inside, and you shall surely drown. Of that I can assure you.: He laughs to himself at this.: Then, we have all been cheated.: No. The Shimmer-Pool is revealed, and one of you may still return, as planned. : The final trial… of the Scribes….: Then… our confrontation… the Liberation Rite… it all was meaningless…?: No… the victor of the confrontation is to be the one to make the choice, among those closest to the Scribes. Either the anointed, or he who anointed them.: So, then, the choice is mine to make… my freedom, weighed against the Reader’s, is that it…?: Aye. It shall be either you, the Reader, or…: …It shall be either, or.: Volfred… please, make your decision quickly, lest it shall be forfeit. I do not know for how much longer the light of the stars shall offer you this gift.: A snap decision, then…. Fine, I have it made…. : Volfred wishes to give up his freedom, so that you may regain yours.: …Very well. Reader sir, the choice which Volfred made… or rather, the choice which he gave… it is now yours to make, instead.: This choice, it may keep bouncing back and forth like this? Absurd.: It may, until such time as one of you is willing to accept the burden and the outcome of the choice. That is the trial. And… I fear that there is little time remaining, now.: Hmph. Reader… if you and your companion are too cordial with each other to accept that freedom, either one of you… then I shall gladly take it. Freedom ought be more than some flirtatious trifle to exchange.: Reader… what is your will? What is our will?  From the beginning, Volfred wanted only two things: for the Commonwealth’s aristocracy to be held accountable for their unjust decisions, and for literacy to be widespread, because knowledge and ideas should not be the privilege of a select few. He had been stoking the fires of rebellion since before his banishment, and when he was finally caught and sentenced to the Downside, his insurrection did not cease. He was soon picked up by the Nightwings. His knack for literacy made him the perfect candidate as their Reader, a role he took to wonderfully, and he doubled as a participant in the Rites. On one fateful Liberation Rite, his close friend Oralech was anointed for freedom, and they succeeded – but Oralech was cheated from his liberation, and Volfred presumed he had perished. Distraught, he vowed to never again participate in the Rites. His hopes for a bloodless revolution are very nearly a reality, and he now has the opportunity to see it with his own eyes. Do we give Volfred his freedom?  The Commonwealth had been in a never-ending war with the Highwing Remnants since before anyone could remember, and Oralech had been drafted into the Commonwealth’s military as a field physician. He was excellent at what he did, but he grew to hate the senseless conflict, and attempted to broker a treaty between the two factions. When neither listened, he refused to return to his station, and was banished for insubordination. Shortly after, he was taken in by the Nightwings, where he learned of the Rites and the potential reward that came with them. He quickly became the best participant the Rites had ever seen, and when the Nightwings reached the summit of Mount Alodiel, he was anointed to gain his freedom. And he succeeded – but, moments before he could claim his prize, he was instead shoved from the mountain, and he was forced to recuperate from his injuries alone for many years. Oralech had, by all rights, proved his worth, and was cheated his freedom at the last moment. He had been fostering his anger all this time, and now, his chance at finally claiming what is his lays before him. Do we give Oralech his freedom?  There isn’t much to know about us. The war between the Commonwealth and the Highwing Remnants had cost us our parents, leaving us orphaned at a young age. Still, we had a curious mind and a penchant for knowledge, and, despite the warnings and penalties that came with it, we eventually learned to both read and write. Ultimately, this became our downfall: literacy is a criminal offense, punishable by a lifetime in the Downside. When we arrived, we suffered a debilitating injury that forever removed us from eligibility as a competitor. Despite our difficult, sordid life, we never let our trials get in the way of our altruism: all we’ve ever wanted from the beginning was to see our friends succeed. Although there is no past or future where we never learn to read, if given the choice between leading a simple farming life or to lead an exciting life sailing the seas, we would stalwartly choose instead to use our learned skills to defend our loved ones, and what is right in the Commonwealth. Our crime is that we were brave enough to learn to read. Literacy is what got us into the Downside. Literacy is what may get us out. Do we give freedom to ourselves?
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Aug 1, 2018 10:38
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Aug 1, 2018 11:29
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Ever since we became the new Reader, we have been the one in charge of all the decision. Volfred, despite his love for his country and his dedication to his own Plan has decided that instead of returning to the home he misses and ensure that everything goes accordingly, we should be the ones to have our freedom. As such I think we should honor the spirit of his decision and not vote for him. That leaves Oralech and us. And I will vote for the Reader to be let free: Oralech deserved to have been freed way back when and in this defeat he appears to be mostly gracious about it with all of the snark aimed at the Scribes and their Rites rather than us. But we, just like the Nightwings before us, can still help ensure the Plan we worked so hard towards comes to fruition and fulfill Volfred's dream; not only that but if the Plan succeeds we could show Sandra a new Commonwealth and be reunited with the original triumvirate.
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Aug 1, 2018 11:54
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Us, the Reader. Let's blow this popsicle stand.
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Aug 1, 2018 12:15
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We were never the hero of this story. We played a part, a significant part, but ultimately a small one in the grand scheme of things. Volfred organized his agents and set this revolution on its way for years, a long time before he was even cast down into the Downside. Every single companion we liberated has contributed to the Plan after doing their part for the Nightwings, with our guidance getting them out, of course. But we should not accept Volfred's offer. Think about it. If we went up, we would not be doing much more for the world above, either during the revolution or afterwards. All we have to offer the world is our capacity to read (something I'm sure the Plan is going to change, especially if Volfred goes up and gets together with his obviously literate agents writing us updates from the Commonwealth) and our empathy. But others, like Hedwyn, Jodariel, and Mae also possess such a giving spirit, and have already been doing much more besides. Like Ti'zo and Bertrude, we could actually do some good down here in the Downside if we stay. Our literacy could save the lives of many people, and keeping in touch with the world above is obviously doable. That is why Volfred is not only the most pragmatic choice, but also the kindest and most merciful for the world. The Commonwealth's authorities didn't want us for our reading ability, and even if we were to fight for freedom before our exile, we couldn't have gotten far without the help of the Nightwings. If Volfred went up with our gift of freedom, we would be doing the new order a favor even greater than Volfred would be doing to us in letting us go. Sorry, Hedwyn, Rukey, Jodariel. We have to break our promise to get out, because like Volfred said to Oralech, the Plan is greater and more important than any friendship.
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Aug 1, 2018 12:24
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That's an interesting twist to throw in there at the end. If I follow my same logic, I'd actually use the moment to redeem Oralech. He knows he is beaten, and we know that he did indeed earn his liberation well before we started this adventure and was cheated out of it.
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Aug 1, 2018 12:42
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Oralech. Pragmatism be damned, he should've been back up there years ago, and it's not as if the liberation rites haven't had us vote for principles of morality over pure practicality before. And hell. Once the stars are finished falling on it, downside can't be so bad. It's got all the Falcon Ron we can handle.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:02
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Hedwyn, Rukey, Jodariel, the reader. They'd all go free together. A promise was made, a promise will be kept. The Reader goes free.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:06
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Aug 1, 2018 13:13
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Shogeton posted:Hedwyn, Rookie, Jodariel, the reader. They'd all go free together. A promise was made, a promise will be kept. The Reader goes free. The Reader. Also, remember that we're carrying Sandra with us. She may not become free of the Crystal, but maybe of the Downside.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:14
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As extra argument, Oraleth and Volfred are capable, fit individuals. We are a crippled scholar who is ill equipped to handle life in the Downside.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:17
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The Reader. Respect Volfred's decision imo.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:56
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Besides, sending Volfred means that Volfrend and Bertrude are never seeing eachother again. And they are good friends. While our best friends are up there.
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Aug 1, 2018 14:10
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The Reader. We made a promise, so long ago... and we should respect Volfred's will.
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Aug 1, 2018 14:24
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Shogeton posted:Hedwyn, Rukey, Jodariel, the reader. They'd all go free together. A promise was made, a promise will be kept. The Reader goes free. This is the correct choice, The Reader is going to blow this popsicle stand.
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Aug 1, 2018 14:30
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It must be The Reader. But not for us. We carry the Beyonder Crystal. It is time for Sandra to be finally free.
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Aug 1, 2018 14:45
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Annoint The Reader
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Aug 1, 2018 14:53
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Aug 1, 2018 14:55
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Oralech lost and Volfred has decided he'd rather send us. I wouldn't want to get into a "no YOU hang up first" at the best of times, let alone when freedom is on the line. The Reader shall gain their freedom.
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Aug 1, 2018 14:56
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Give The Reader the freedom they deserve. We're probably young enough that we still have a long life ahead of us. Don't waste it rotting away down here.
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Aug 1, 2018 15:34
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Aug 1, 2018 15:43
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Oralech he had the first right of return, if any of him remains he will make what replaces the Commonwealth better. It's not our story as the reader, it is a tale of doing the right thing.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:08
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Shogeton posted:Hedwyn, Rukey, Jodariel, the reader. They'd all go free together. A promise was made, a promise will be kept. The Reader goes free. Thank you, I had forgotten about the promise. That makes my decision to liberate the Reader much easier. And also this way we free Sandra, in her own way.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:24
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I was gonna go for Volfred, it is after all his Plan, but since I'd be the I mean, Oralech decided to form his own shadow copy of the Nightwings. Had he rolled with us he would've gone up the first chance he got. He did not.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:25
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The Reader. There's a promise to keep, damnir.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:50
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Reader. Until Tizo, Volfred, and Oralech can all go free together, they should be together. Oralech is a broken man, who firmly rebukes their friendship, but I do not think he is beyond hope, so long as he doesn’t have to watch his OG crew leave before him. And we have our own original team waiting for us. And our own part to play in The Plan. And Sandra.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:50
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And if Oralech joins the Nightwings, that's a full triumvirate with a Reader (Volfred).
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Aug 1, 2018 17:06
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Aug 1, 2018 18:22
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Part of me wants to give Oralech the pity prize. He could have sought a much less malicious approach to getting justice for what happened to him. But he didn't. As quick as old Brighton is to blame the Reader for screwing up the cycle of the stars, Oralech's sabotage of the Rites seems a more likely root cause. I think it's best to put some distance between Oralech and the Reader. Volfred wants the Reader to go, and there are promises that should be kept. I say send the Reader.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:18
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I'm just gonna assume ol' Volfred knows what he's doing and pick the Reader.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:25
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Pick Volfred. Sandra cannot leave her orb in the downside or the commonwealth; she will be happy as long as she is with the reader. But Volfred derves his freedom for all the same reasons he did in the anointment.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:37
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I say stick with Volfred. We didn't go into this with the expectation of being freed, and Volfred still has the plan to finish.
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