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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I’m not sure I’m going to give Runaways S2 a watch. It’s not about the differences between the comic and the TV show, it’s really more my issues with the dialog (at least every episode has at least one instance of a character saying something in an overly pompous, unrealistic way) and the fact that it’s 95% CW drama and 5% CW superhero show, and the 5% is badly done.

If they had did the MCU thing of having two teams to handle the material—big names for the dialog/personal stuff and drama, but talented people for the action stuff—then the show could be a really good superhero CW drama. Like S1/2 of Arrow or S1 of Flash. Those shows had their CW drama stuff, but it balanced nicely with the well done superhero stuff. Arrow has Oliver leaping across buildings and putting arrows in the necks of baddies between love angst stuff, Runaways has... people standing in a line.

I’m pretty sure Runaways is a good CW style drama—the Gossip Girl-loving wife is very happy with the show (especially the costuming)—but I’ve never been a fan of the genre. Which sucks, because I’ve been hyped for a property based on Runaways for ages and they freaking nailed the casting.

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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

I posted the link about the Aziz story on my Facebook and then a couple people I know came to his defense and said the girl was full of poo poo and was asking for it and was abused intentionally for fame and money and to ruin Aziz's career.

I really loving hate some of the people I know.

I went AWOL on social media/Reddit and limited my blog/website checking to once a day at the beginning of this year and my life has been significantly better since.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Favorite shows by decade:

50’s: I Love Lucy is the only 50’s show I’ve seen multiple episodes of. It’s legitimately great though. The Candy Factory scene is still one of the funniest things I’ve seen to this day.
60’s: The Twilight Zone. ‘Nuff said.
70’s: Uhhh... I haven’t seen much 70’s TV. I’ve caught random episodes of all the classics, but I’d be hard pressed to say which was best. Sanford and Son stands out I suppose. Considering how much I love 30 Rock I know I should watch The Mary Taylor Moore Show, but I’m not sure it’s streaming anywhere. Happy Days sucks, I know that much.
80’s: Gotta go with Wonder Years. I haven’t watched it in a decade, though, I think it still stands up. The 80’s was kind of dire overall, TV-wise.
90’s: This is where it starts to get hard. Buffy, Fresh Prince, X-Files, Quantum Leap, Deep Space 9, and 3rd Rock from the Sun all make extremely compelling cases. But Seinfeld edges them all out. It’s endlessly rewatchable and funny to this day, and so many of the comedies today that I love owe so, so much to Seinfeld.
00’s: You know what, this question is bad and should feel bad. Too many choices here, but I think the answer is Lost. :colbert: Wait, maybe 30 Rock. Or Boston Legal... nah, gonna stick with Lost.
10’s: Not over yet, but I think it’ll be difficult for anything to top the highs Breaking Bad reached.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Looten Plunder posted:

Oh look. Someone thought about this rationally
Aziz Ansari Is Guilty. Of Not Being a Mind Reader.

Oh for fucks sake. Aziz didn’t need to read her mind to realize that the woman in question didn’t want to have sex with him then and there. If a woman is telling you things like “next time” and not reciprocating kissing, those are very obvious statements that they’re not interested in fooling around.

The only time a woman is won over into having sex by aggressive forced kissing is in James Bond films... and those are full of really lovely awful stuff. Even as recently as Skyfall, where the first thing that James does after learning his female companion was a former sex slave is to walk in on her showering, naked and uninvited. Which is part of the reason I loving hate Skyfall.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, to clarify: what Aziz did isn’t as bad as other people, but it’s still bad. Forcefully and repeatedly trying to coerce a woman to have sex with you is bad. It is.

I get it, you’re horny, you think a woman is attractive, you want to have sex with her. But if she doesn’t want to have sex with you, whelp, too bad. Instead, hang on the couch, watch something. Make her feel comfortable. Bring out a blanket or two, snuggle a bit, put your arm around her. Maybe after a bit, she’ll feel more comfortable with you, and maybe even want to do stuff! And if she doesn’t, that’s fine too, wait for her to leave and if you’re still all hot and bothered, well, that’s what masturbation is for.

I think there’s a paranoid fear around men that if you don’t immediately do sex stuff with a woman ASAP then it’ll never happen, you’ll just become a friend. That doesn’t happen, or rarely does, unless that person is ALSO someone you see regularly (like a coworker). If you’re only seeing someone on dates, you won’t get friendzoned. She might decide she doesn’t like you as much as she thought after a few dates, but that’s your problem, not hers.

It’s not difficult, people. You aren’t so ruled by your penis that you HAVE to have sex or you’ll explode. A woman accepting an invite back to your apartment isn’t a guarantee of anything beyond her wanting to hang with you a bit and get to know you better. It doesn’t matter if you’re some random nobody or George loving Clooney. Unless you meet the girl though a hookup app, you’re most likely not having any form of sex the first date. And that’s fine.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

raditts posted:

Is that the same one he winds up accidentally killing later because his aim with a gun is so terrible? Man Skyfall was a loving turd of a movie.

Yup. After Casino Royale fixed how Bond interacts with and acts towards women, they threw it all down the shitter in Skyfall. It's not my only issue with the film, but it's a big one.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

IRQ posted:

If you don't think The Simpsons was the best show of the 90s just I don't even know what to say to you.

Early 90's? Yeah, sure. Mid-to-late? Nah.

When FXX put up EVERY. SIMPSONS. EVER. on their app the wife and I went through it from the start and began to lose interest in it right around '96 or so. If it had maintained the quality, maybe I would say it was the greatest show of the 90's overall. I still watched up until about '08, for some reason.

Even the last few seasons of Seinfeld were pretty drat good TV, even if they weren't as great as the previous seasons.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

IRQ posted:

Even late 90s had some iconic episodes, but the show itself is so important that it in many ways defines the decade.

I'm not really arguing with you because tastes are hella subjective (and I know you aren't a huge fan of Seinfeld, which is fine).

But you did make me think that Seinfeld, with its focus on perceived microagressions and petty causes and issues, ended up predicting the '10s pretty well.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

GreenNight posted:

I've never seen an episode of Seinfeld, but I was taken to his standup which I thought sucked.

My new girlfriend is also taking me to see him so hopefully he's gotten better in the 5 years since the last time.

His standup is medicore-to-bad and easily the worst part of the first few seasons of the show. Thankfully, they realized that pretty early on.

Lurdiak posted:

I haven't seen the Daniel Craig movies but I think Goldeneye and From Russia With Love are like the only two Bond films I've seen that were anywhere near as good or entertaining as the reputation of the character. I guess Live and Let Die was good too.

There are a lot of loving lovely Bond films.

You're not wrong. I would say that there are couple other good ones (On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Licence To Kill) but there's really only one or two truly good Bond films per Bond.

Maybe that's the secret, they should just cast a new Bond for every film and then they'll all be good! :v:

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\It's got a killer theme song but Denise Richards cosplaying as Lara Croft, Nuclear Scientist, is so, so, so terrible. Easily one of the worst female leads.

Lurdiak posted:

As much as I enjoy Goldeneye and respect Pierce in the role, his films had an amazingly precipitous decline in quality. Die Another Day is like Star Wars prequel bad.

Die Another Day, for me, is so bad that it's almost good. The opening, credits, and theme song are actually some of my favorites of the series. And it's consistently fun to watch, at least, unlike Tomorrow Never Dies, which is just boring.

To wrap this back around to TV, has there been any further news on Amazon courting EON for the Bond rights? I feel like them doing a film/series is probably the best case scenario for the property.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Escobarbarian posted:

I dunno how Annapurna managed to bag something big like that but good on em.

Literally the only reason I know who they are is because they were one of the sponsors of AGDQ 2018.

[Edit: Oh poo poo, it's run by Larry Ellison's daughter--heh, I was trying to think of why a film exec would give a poo poo about a speedrun charity but she's probably a bit of a nerd.]

[Double edit: Oooooh poo poo they also published What Remains of Edith Finch, that makes even more sense. And the films they've produced/coproduced are pretty great, too. What the hell is my HSX login...]

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 16, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Reading up more on Annapurna and man I wish my parents had millions of dollars that I could throw at producing movies and videogames. Lucky.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
...is there a CineD Bond chat thread? Should I make one? I feel bad for starting this derail.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rarity posted:

...I've been waiting for this day.

Person of Interest is hot garbage :colbert:

OK NEVERMIND THIS IS THE JAMES BOND THREAD NOW AND THATS FINE

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Oh my goodness look at all of these bad opinions about TV and animals in this, the James Bond thread

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

DivisionPost posted:

[...]She starred in Black & Dekker's Amazon pilot [...]

When you put their names together like that it makes them sound like a couple of tools.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Sorry if this has been asked a million times before (I tried Googling first), but is there any legit way to buy series one, two, and three of The Great British Bake Off to watch in the USA?

Amazon has it (I think this is the right show, it's got the 'Murican name though) :https://www.amazon.com/Cake/dp/B0143LIU9O

[Edit: Looks like it's on Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/title/80063224) and iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-great-british-baking-show-season-1/id1131276110

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 19, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Thanks but that is series 4-7 of the BBC show (called seasons 1-4 in the USA), I was looking for series 1-3.

Oh, the episode names in deason one match the ones in the UK series one, so I thought they were the same. I don't know much about the show, do the challenges follow the same pattern every season?

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mu Zeta posted:

If you miss The Soup with Joel McHale, Netflix is making a weekly show called The Joel McHale Show with Joel McHale. Coming Feb 18th. Looks like pretty much the same show.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/netflix-announces-the-joel-mchale-show-with-joel-mchale.html

https://twitter.com/joelmchale/status/954382993224646656

Oh heck yes.

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Sorry if this has been asked a million times before (I tried Googling first), but is there any legit way to buy series one, two, and three of The Great British Bake Off to watch in the USA?

To follow up on this, I can't find anything either. Maybe there's music rights issues and the Beeb doesn't want to bother with replacing the music?

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

DivisionPost posted:

Those two have a friendship that goes all the way back to film school, and that’s what they’ve always been referred to as.



(It was a joke)

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rhyno posted:

Now Matt Smith is free to be Mister Fantastic in the Marvel Fantastic Four films.

PriorMarcus posted:

With Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Doom.
Disney read these posts please

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

zoux posted:

I have yet to see the Netflix show that critics didn’t bitch about the pacing. I wonder how much of it is from the requirement that they have to watch the show as fast as possible to get the reviews out. Making something work saps the enjoyment out of it

Don't reviewers usually only get the first few episodes of their shows?

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Really I've never had an issue with pacing on any of Netflix' shows besides some of the later seasons of House of Cards. I thought Defenders' and Jessica Jones' pacing were totally fine, though I do tend to watch dramas over a three-four day period.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Though as a counterpoint, if Runaways had been released all at once, I probably would have liked it a little more. Having to wait week-to-week with (relatively little) plot momentum kinda killed it for me.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 22, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

GreenNight posted:

Welp, all interest is now gone.

Well frick. I wonder what happened? Did he not want to work with Noah Wyle?

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

muscles like this! posted:

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

MATT BERRY IS GOING TO BE IN FX'S ADAPTATION OF WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS.

Well that’s a perfect fit, so much so that I had to pause for a moment and remember if he was in the movie or not.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

raditts posted:

Lost broke the brains of a generation so anything that is not part of some multi-year mytharc makes them start gibbering about procedurals.

I think it’s more that shows like Lost, 24, The Sopranos, and The Wire, as well as the rise of binging such plot-heavy shows, showed that younger audiences want season long plot arcs. I’d agree that there’s still room for one off episodes and shows that strike a balance somewhere (Person of Interest and the first few seasons of Fringe are key examples here). I was honestly surprised that Jessica Jones had a season long arc, since the comic it’s based on is composed of three-four issue arcs (which would roughly equate to an hour of tv each), but I felt it told the story it wanted to tell well.

Really the big issue is that some (most) shows have a hard time making an arc work across an entire season, and if they add one or two episodes in the middle, idiots complain about “filler”. I think we’re getting there though, as more and more 6-10 episode “miniseries” are being made.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 23, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

zoux posted:

I like long plot arcs over MotW procedurals.

I generally agree, but one specific exception for me is X-Files. I've always maintained that the best episodes of the X-Files are the MotW ones. The plot arc is straight garbage, always has been.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jan 23, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm still annoyed that they didn't move Felicty over to the Flash once that started up. She gelled really well with the cast (and had, like, instant chemistry with Grant Gustin) and would have stopped all the stupid Felicity poo poo that went down on Arrow starting in season three. OTOH there then would have been stupid Barry/Iris/Felicity love triangle poo poo on The Flash, so...


Never watched the show but based on that photo I guess Harry Potter was in it?

Also, christ, they're starting to run out of shows to revive. It's only a matter of time before Lost returns, isn't it?

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jan 24, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

less laughter posted:

CBS should revive The Dick Van Dyke Show with the original cast as well, the lead is only a sprightly 92

As of Boston Legal Bergen was still legitimately awesome, but then again that was 10 years ago...

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:

I've really only seen the one where Werner Herzog needs a penis transplant

I don’t remember this episode but that does sound like something Rick & Morty would do

[Edit: oh wait I remember it now]

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
So I haven't done much reading recently, but what I have read have been books about entertainment--Disney War, The War for Late Night, and the oral history Live from New York. Are there other good books detailing show histories or behind-the-scene drama at networks or studios?

I'd honestly love a behind-the-scenes about Lucasfilm (but that will never happen).

[Edit: Oh and I forgot How Music Got Free, which is a faaaantastic book about the music industry's transition from CDs to streaming services, covering everything from how the .mp3 format was created to the iPod's birth and how labels scammed TRL to promote struggling artists. I can't recommend it enough.]

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jan 25, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

McSpanky posted:

26 Reasons Why?

7.5 Reasons why if it gets a half season order

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

I was, er, counting the double length finale. Yeah.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
So I watched last night's episode of X-Files and... yeah, I think I'm done with the show. I can't possibly think of a better finale than The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat. Even the hardcore fans on Reddit are really happy with it, which is surprising considering that it openly mocks the pointlessness of the series' return.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Scientology = PCP confirm/deny

All religion is a drug.

Also, CBS is bringing back Magnum PI and Cagney & Lacey because gently caress it, they’re never gonna get the millennial audience so might as well double down on the olds.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jan 27, 2018

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Davros1 posted:

I find bleeping to be funnier than unbleeped

Agreed. When it comes to comedies, a beeped swear can be a joke in and of itself. The Middleman uses bleeped swears (complete with censor bars!) to great effect, and the Good Place has a pretty forking funny variation on bleeped swearing. It’s actually weird hearing South Park characters actually say “gently caress” in the video games and uncensored episodes.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vanderdeath posted:

Holy moly, someone else who remembers The Middleman! I wish that show had gotten a couple more seasons. It was fun and honestly probably would've been better suited for this decade than the last.

I also still hear "Wendy Watson" in Noser's cadence whenever I see Natalie Morales pop up in something.

The Middleman would be WAAAAY more successful these days if they were to bring it back, even if it was on ABC Family Freeform again. Unfortunately, Matt Keeslar has retired from acting entirely so even in the highly unlikely case that it did make a return it wouldn’t be the same :(.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Shageletic posted:

What do people do other than have Netflix/hulu/amazon etc, to get basic cable options. I have a hazy memory of some sort of digital antenna thing you can buy to get the basic channels? Idk.

I have an Antenna in the attic hooked up to an HD Homerun that is fed to Channels DVR, though I could probably get away with just the antenna and use Hulu as a DVR for locals. I have PlayStation Vue for cable, but depending on your desired channels/how much you want to pay/UI needs another service may fit you better. Off the top of my head there is:

*Playstation Vue
*DirectTV Now
*Sling TV
*Hulu with Live Channels
*YouTube TV

All of the above offer free trials, I’d say give each a try and keep your favorite. I’m sure there will be more in the future. T-Mobile is entering the market later this year, for instance, and rumors about Apple and Amazon offering similar services persist.

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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Also, knowing where your local channels are coming from is key for antenna placement if you're more than 10 miles away from the broadcast tower. TV Fool is really handy for that.

Annoyingly enough, where I am in Connecticut there are Fox, CBS, and NBC affiliates in Hartford (the closest city), but because there was an existent ABC channel north of them in western Mass and an another south in New Haven there isn't a Hartford ABC affiliate. So to watch Jeopardy I had to angle my antenna juuuust right to get the Massachusetts ABC channel. If I tried to get the Hartford ABC channel it would mess up my reception for all the others. If the weather's bad, the mass ABC channel doesn't come in at all, but it's better than nothing.

But on a clear day, I can get over 50 channels (though 12 of those are duplicates). I could probably get better signal if I moved the antenna outside but the attic works well enough.

Amusingly enough I have a secondary antenna I picked up for like $20 for testing that I just stuck behind my TV and it gets CBS, NBC, and Fox just fine--it's really just ABC and the CW that I needed to put the antenna in the attic for.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 29, 2018

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