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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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i got on a Beatles kick today and i've gotta say, one of the big streamers needs to team up with the BBC and do the big blowout Beatles limited series that the story of that band deserves. I've always wondered about how a Beatles movie would look but I think you could make about 5 different movies about various parts of the history of the band, so it almost just makes more sense for someone to make 13 episodes and try and fit as many of their songs in as possible.

there are a million possibilities too. You could do episodes from the early days about John, Paul, George and Stu in Liverpool, the Beatles in Hamburg's red light district, meeting Brian Epstein/Stuart Suttcliffe's death/getting signed by George Martin, replacing Pete with Ringo all leading up to an episode about the day they recorded Please Please Me, and following that then you have Beatlemania taking over Britain, the British Invasion/playing Ed Sullivan, touring/making Hard Day's Night/meeting Bob Dylan and Dylan introducing them all to pot, John and George getting dosed with LSD by their dentist, playing Shea Stadium, making Rubber Soul, John Lennon opening his big fat mouth repeatedly, the final tour, making Revolver, and then you get into the really good stuff with Yoko, Clapton, Maharishi, Timothy Leary, Billy Preston, Phil Spector, the Stones, the Beach Boys, and Apple Records.

someone needs to get the gently caress on this now.

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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come watch the Golden Globes with me, chat thread!

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Mads Mikkelson is the one true Doom, sorry wrong people.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Come watch the SAG Awards with me! Kristin Bell is hosting, she's great.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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:siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren::siren:
https://twitter.com/people/status/956310241616056322
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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Come watch the Grammys with me!

also mods can you change the title of the Golden Globes thread to Awards Show Thread: Pretty Dresses & Uncomfortable Questions because I'm gonna keep doing this every Sunday until Oscars season

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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i'm beginning to consider the possibility that Glee is cursed

https://twitter.com/ew/status/958406473679335425

(note: he committed suicide because he was a month away from being sentenced to multiple years in prison for possession of child porn)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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https://twitter.com/kchenoweth/status/966808187109339136

i am incredibly excited for this. Trial and Error had a great first season and instead of trying to do Lithgow's schtick with another comedic actor, going full Grey Gardens with television's pre-eminent suburban cougar who can belt if necessary is gonna be great.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Beat Bobby Flay is one of my food-TV guilty pleasures; it's got two dish battles in the span of a half-hour, Bobby Flay is a good personality and he bounces off whoever he brings in well, and it's got a nice mix of "chefs I know" and "chefs I've never heard of", but I have to say, the idea that the "impartial judges" can't immediately figure out that the dish with fresno chilis or some other sort of shoehorned in chili is Bobby Flay's is laughable. That man has an addiction to chili peppers and needs an intervention.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Inspector 34 posted:

I just wish the guest hosts would ditch the whole antagonist thing with Bobby. I mean I get that that's the premise of the show, but it's just so cheesy. Maybe if they did it differently I'd like it better. That said, I will almost always watch when I happen to catch it, but I have absolutely no idea when new episodes air.

I have a huge backload from the fall but i dunno if new episodes are airing right now. I think it was Thursday nights though.

I get the antagonist thing because it's fun to watch your friend who is really good at something lose. The episodes with the people who actually have a personal connection to him are funnier because they can gently caress with his head a little more (see: his daughter, Helene Yorke, or any of his old chef friends). The comedian ones are the worst because even if they know a bit about food, they don't have the same depth of knowledge, and while they're generally funny enough to make up for it, it also makes the other judge try to step up their comedy game, and most food people really aren't funny.

Honestly, any episode with Alex Guernachelli is a highlight because she knows exactly how many fucks to give on the show (none) and also she knows so much about food. I think I didn't like her when she first started appearing on Chopped but I've come around.

speaking of food television, this season of Top Chef that's airing right now is the best the show has been in years. The best seasons of Top Chef have a bunch of talented chefs who all really like each other, challenges that aren't too gimmicky/bullshit, and a location that lends itself to a bunch of interesting challenges, and Denver really owns in all of those aspects. I haven't liked a season this much since All Stars. (Seattle was good but had a horrible bullshit ending and I liked Charleston because Southern food is magic but this season blows the two of those out of the water)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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DivisionPost posted:

Patton Oswalt has been hyping the poo poo out of something that happens in a panel involving Jennifer Lawrence that went down at tonight’s Colbert taping.

I mean he could be wrong, but if this ends up being half the big deal he says it is deal I’m going to look really cool.

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/968275589579894784

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/968278579242037249

so i don't think it's revolutionary or anything but we're at the break in the interview and Stephen and JLaw are 3 glasses of rum in and JLaw is reminding me of why everyone thinks she's so personable (because she's hilarious and doesn't really give a gently caress)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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i would really like to get drunk with Jennifer Lawrence is the lesson of the evening.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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I’m taking an ethics class and clearly now is the time to start watching The Good Place because it is the only show that will provide a corollary to my class discussion about Utilitarianism and also hilarious jokes about the state of Florida.

I’m gonna tell my ethics professor and make my entire class watch it because it’s perfect.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Rocksicles posted:

They teach ethics in Florida?

no and that fact being a major part of the plot of this show is great.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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DivisionPost posted:

All that said, if absolute unrefuted insanity is what you crave, there's also 16-year-old Betty Cooper (played by an actress in her early 20s) singing the Gary Jules version of "Mad World" at a biker bar.

Oh, sorry, my bad, :nms: :nws: she does much more than sing :nws: :nms:.

man it's really fortunate that the dive bar had a vocal track of her singing that ready to go

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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muscles like this! posted:

Fox is planning on airing a "documentary" about Meghan Markle. I put the quotes around documentary because one of the people they're talking to is her half sister who has been running her mouth and writing a tell all book.

Like a loved one who relapses into meth after years of being sober, Fox has shown a bunch of super-tacky "EVENT" documentary-hours so far this year. First that super loving awful OJ Simpson If I Did It thing and now this. I'm sure we're not far off from a full on When Animals Attack or Married By America reboot at this point

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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PostNouveau posted:

Did they recast the Olsen twins' character on that Full House revival or just give her a job in some other city and maybe one day we'll drag one of them out of rehab to do a cameo?

it should be noted that they aren't in rehab but instead are incredibly successful fashion moguls who don't need to act anymore because they have gently caress you money

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Rhyno posted:

That was a dark time for television.

I'm honestly struggling to recall many sitcoms that I have ever enjoyed other than Married With Children. And that's tinted through my childhood memories so it might be horrible.

Married with Children is terrible and Roseanne (at its best) was really drat good, so you may have had just a weird childhood.

also Cheers is probably the best older sitcom left where none of the most important cast members (shouts to Coach) have passed away so they need to get on that poo poo. Plus you've got your Obnoxious Hot Takes About Conservatives quotient because John Ratzenberger is an occasional Fox News guest and everyone knows Kelsey Grammar is a really obnoxious conservative, plus I think Kirsty Alley has said some dumb poo poo too. And on the other end you have Woody Harrelson, who is basically a commie.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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it should also be pointed out that CBS really wants in on this sitcom revival game but they've already brought Kevin James back to TV, and the only other really classic sitcoms they've had have lost cast members so unless they make Some People Don't Particularly Like Royce Starring Ray Romano Again, Murphy Brown is like the best chance they have until we're all old enough to have nostalgia for How I Met Your Mother (where they can do the same thing to it's terrible ending that Roseanne did)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Wheat Loaf posted:

I think I read that Harrelson is an anarchist?

Anarchist, commie, whatever. The opposite of Donald Trump.

And for the full spectrum of American politics, Ted Danson and Mary Steenbergen are good friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton. Truly a diverse spectrum of American politics.

(I was also kinda right about Alley, she endorsed Trump in April 2016 and unendorsed him after the pussy tape came out)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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I think Roseanne Barr (and by extension, Roseanne Connor), broadly speaking, still has a bunch of left-leaning political beliefs (pro-union, pro-taxing rich people, pro-women's rights) but she's also a crazy person who likes Donald Trump and has terrible opinions about political correctness (which stem from being a comedian) and trans people (which stem from being a TERF), and also hates the democratic party. She's not a "typical" Trump fan in terms of how she came to that support (i.e. not a Republican) but the particular morass of political beliefs of Roseanne and her particular personality result in being obnoxious to liberals for obvious reason but also probably obnoxious for a broad swatch of conservatives because she's not really a conservative.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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i can't remember which review of the Roseanne premiere I read that talked about it (i think AV club) but someone pointed out that Jackie having pulled the lever at the last minute for Jill Stein is pretty clearly a Roseanne Barr invention because of her deep, deep dislike of Clinton.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Matt Zerella posted:

Tom Arnold is Antifa.

https://twitter.com/TomArnold/status/979887595604803584

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Matt Zerella posted:

Lmbo. He was really good on the show.

Tom Arnold is a really pro twitter follow even when he's hinting at a mysterious tape of Trump saying racial slurs that probably doesn't exist. He's from Iowa, also, so I have a special kinship with him.

Also The Stupids is a top-tier 90's comedy.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Lurdiak posted:

Do you mean the actor or the character.

I really love That 70's Show and the first few seasons are really a perfect multi-cam sitcom with a great sense of humor but I haven't watched a single episode since I learned exactly how terrible a person Danny Masterson is and it will probably be a long while before I'm able to watch it again.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Rhyno posted:

Kelsey Grammer and Stanley Tucci were amazing in AOE.

Shia is at his peak emasculated nerd in DotM and Patrick Dempsey on the other end of that equation is pretty good too.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Lycus posted:

"Two year programs" can last several years.

we're sorry, the correct answer was "dan harmon don't give no shits about the rules"

thanks for playing, we hope you enjoy your consolation gift, A DVD Set Containing The Only Three Good Seasons Of Community. It comes with a special bonus disc entitled The 13 Great Episodes Of Glee And Absolutely Nothing Else You're Welcome.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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STAC Goat posted:

There more than 13 good episodes of Glee.

I mean, they weren't successive or anything and you should never try and find them. But there's a few of them scattered around.

yeah this is probably right. that first half a season was so good. I've maintained that if it had died a quiet, unpopular death those first thirteen episodes would a Freaks and Geeks/Firefly-level "what could have been" example.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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hey, remember when Hari Kondabolu made a documentary about Apu from the Simpsons and how horrible the portrayal of Apu is as a stereotype of an Indian man?

The Simpsons responded, and it's exactly as bad as you would thing The Simpsons in 2018 would handle this.

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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X-O posted:

This is like watching a high school performance actually. Very unimpressive.

some of them are fine and the guy playing Hamilton is really pretty but every single time the guy playing Burr says a word like a theater teacher trying to teach mumble mouthed high schoolers how to E-Nun-See-Ate it makes me cringe a little.

it does lose a little bit being so particular with the words. Some of the rhyme schemes actually benefit from being a little less precious with the pronunciations, especially that second clause sung by Ponytail Guy (Laurens). The way the OG broadway actor sang it, "father" and "farther" sounded almost like the same word and it linked the two "father"s with the rest of what he said, when you really go after that "r" in "farther" it disconnects it.

(I have lots of thoughts about Hamilton. I got to see it on Broadway with the original cast because I'm a huge Lin-Manuel fan and it was slightly underwhelming but still impressive, and I also want a big budget version because I think blowing out the budgets with period sets and trappings would really make it sing, no pun intended. I also have fan casting of incredibly famous rappers who I think should be in it if you didn't go the RENT route and cast the original cast. Beyonce has to be Angelica because I need to hear her sing Satisfied, and Chuck D ought to be George Washington.)

edit: because i am exactly the right kind of nerdy, here is my stupid fantasy casting for a Hamilton movie with a bajillion dollar casting budget:

Hamilton: Kanye West
Burr: Drake
Angelica: Beyonce Knowles
Eliza: Alicia Keys
Washington: Chuck D
Lafayette: Childish Gambino
Hercules: Tyler the Creator
Laurens: Kid CuDi
Jefferson: Andre 3000
Madison: Big Boi
Philip: Chance the Rapper
Samuel Seabury: Bruno Mars
Peggy: Ariana Grande
Maria Reynolds: Janelle Monae
King George: Justin Timberlake

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Mu Zeta posted:

Good list. I think Kanye West should be King George though. Killer Mike for Hercules Mulligan. Maybe Kendrick Lamar for Hamilton.

I really like the joke of George being the only white guy in the cast, and the part really does require a singer, which Kanye isn't. The other two are real good though.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

House went up on Prime. It’s such a good show to have on in the background while you do other poo poo.

season 4 is the best season because it actively fucks with the formula a bit more than usual, and then kicks you square in the junk at the end of the season (but in a good, emotionally resonant way)

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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NBC has been the best broadcast (read: not cable) network for comedy since the early 1980s and it's never been particularly close, so this is a natural evolution for them.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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i have not watched a new network comedy in years (with the exception of The Good Place which i didn't really watch until after its second season was over) and this year looks like a barren loving crop of shows with the exception of the inevitably excellent Mike Schur Finally Just Makes Cheers.

I have mild hope that The Neighborhood, like Superior Donuts before it, will be Good By CBS Standards, especially because they're replacing that placeholder lead actor with Schmidt, who is much funnier.

Interestingly, Happy Together has just as much talent being inevitably wasted (someone really needs to get Amber Stevens West a sitcom that doesn't die after a season or two), but the writing seems a scötch better.

The Kids Are Alright is not an adaptation of the movie which could make a good TV show itself but ABC really, really hitting the Goldbergs formula hard. ABC has quietly made some very excellent family sitcoms over the last few years (even though their poster child is very, very shaggy at this point) and this one seems like it has some heart, just like the others. But man it's hard to shake the "Goldbergs, but the 70s" feeling.

Single Parents feels like it's aiming at the Happy Endings (season 1) levels of irreverence and again, the cast is killer, so it's probably got more potential just for that reason. Nice to see Brad Garrett getting out again, and Taran Killiam is chunking up a little (which i think bodes well for his marriage with Cobie Smulders because i read somewhere that people who really love each other get fat), and it's possible that Leighton Meester could pull a Elisha Cuthbert by being known for teen dramas but all of a sudden becoming hilarious.

I Feel Bad has Amy Poehler as a producer and the benefit of being a nice push for diversity but it also looks really, really cookie-cutter and I dunno if it has the cast that some other shows do that would make me watch it.

Murphy Brown is really unusual because it's exactly the type of show that gets brought back like this (the cast isn't doing much, big award winner, etc) but as someone who watches far, far too many old sitcoms on TV I have never seen a single episode because no one airs it. So I don't think it has the decades of people watching it in syndication to keep them fresh like a Will and Grace or a Roseanne do. But i am a big softy for political sitcoms and it's something that doesn't really exist in any other form on network TV right now, and Candace Bergen is a great comedic talent. It's kinda funny that CBS, noted old person channel, is gonna have a show aimed squarely at the people who voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries, while Fox, noted young person channel, is gonna bring back a show that is for people who think Ted Cruz is the poo poo, instead of a poo poo.

actually i take back what i said about a barren crop, I'm fully onboard for The Cool Kids. David Allen Grier, Leslie Jordan, Martin Mull and Vicki loving Lawrence? poo poo yeah.

Rel looks lame. I think Lil Rel is a great comedian but I dunno about the show.

I'm gonna be perfectly honest, I fully expected to watch the trailer for God Friended Me and laugh my rear end off and while I still think it's one Sorbo away from being a Kirk Cameron flick, I really like Brandon Michael Hall (and gently caress ABC for cancelling The Mayor, which was great dammit), it seems really sincere and not necessarily like those lovely God's Not Dead movies because it might have some room to have a little nuance. Like a modern Touched By An Angel, whose worst crime was being unbearably sappy, rather than insulting to non-believers.

no trailers for Abby's, Schooled, Fam, but they sound fantastic, interesting, and lame respectively. And while they're not comedies, I'm gonna watch the gently caress out of New Amsterdam and especially Proven Innocent because shows where the points are "making a hospital better to actually help people" and "all prosecutors are fuckwads and our justice system is a mess" are pretty much the shows I would write if I were tasked to write a medical or legal drama.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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let's check in on how Roseanne is doing in it's season finale!

quote:

In the final scenes of the Roseanne revival’s first season, the Conner house floods. A massive rainstorm hits much of Illinois, and in the midst of a family crisis about how to pay for Roseanne’s knee surgery and whether Dan should hire undocumented workers, they realize their house has sustained thousands of dollars of water damage. Dan wades through the knee-deep water, trying to convince Roseanne that everything will be okay — trying and failing, that is, because they both know there’s no way out. He sends her upstairs to reassure the rest of the family, and they give each other a look that says they both know it’s a lie. There will be no money for Roseanne’s knee. Dan has ruined his friendship with his long-time union partner, and simultaneously given up on his principles, all to maintain an already disastrous status quo.

It’s exactly the kind of painful, inescapable hole Roseanne described in the beginning of the season when she explained to her sister Jackie why she voted for Donald Trump. Things were really, really bad, and Trump promised to make things better. “He talked about jobs!” Roseanne says. And he did it in a way that resonated with Roseanne’s beliefs about government, budgeting, and handouts. She mocked Jackie for supporting the Affordable Care Act, which she implied was a terrible idea because the government could never pay for it. “You’re a good-hearted person who can’t do simple math,” she told Jackie.

For a moment in the finale, it seems as though the Roseanne will swerve into the skid, shifting gears from its frustratingly shallow approach to politics and finally connect Roseanne’s political jibes with some meaningful real-world implications. Yes, the setup for the Conner’s rock-and-a-hard-place catastrophe is concerning: It’s presented as Dan’s choice between sticking with his union partner and not having money for Roseanne’s surgery, or hiring undocumented workers so he can get Roseanne’s knee fixed. The not-so-buried implication is that the existence of illegal immigration makes things worse for the Conners. But the decision Dan is poised to make still has the potential to be frustrating and tragic in an illuminating way. He’s betraying his ideals and giving into economic pressure to hire cheaper labor so he can save his family. It could be a story about sadness and sacrifice, and the very hard, inescapable choices families have to make to survive.

wow, maybe we took Roseanne Barr's ability to make a show dealing with real issues that working class people will relate to in a way that isn't pandering or stupid. That's pretty co-

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Instead, the widespread flooding across the state pushes Roseanne’s imagined President Trump to declare a federal emergency. Roseanne and the Conners immediately start celebrating because this means they’ll get “FEMA money.” Dan tells them that he’ll be able to fix up the basement himself with the government funds, meaning it’ll cost them less, and they can use the remainder to pay for Roseanne’s knee surgery. Their problems are solved, and the season ends with everyone joyously gathered around the dinner table. The Conners get an unlikely fairy-tale ending.

oh alright then

i hope every single person still without power in Puerto Rico sends Roseanne a letter that just says "GO gently caress YOURSELF YOU AWFUL WOMAN"

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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Jessica Walter has the patience of a loving saint. When Tambor chimed in with his very satisfied “absolutely” after she talked about needing to be friends again, as if she had killed his cat, instead of, you know, took his bullshit yelling and verbal abuse.

gently caress Jeffery Tambor and every guy in that cast defending him. I’m hoping at very least Alia and Cera and Jessica say “it’s not loving worth it” after they’re done doing publicity for this season.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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EugeneJ posted:

Let's take a tour around Late Night

two different late night hosts who deny the existence of their biracial children.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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did anyone else watch Pose last night? I love it so far, like a big queer fairy tale. And the soundtrack is on point. I hope it starts a trend of putting the stories of trans people on TV starring and written by trans people.

i know it's Ryan Murphy so it could go off the rails at any moment but I have faith that the people he's brought in for this one will keep his worst tendencies at bay. the best moments of the pilot reminded me of how my heart felt watching the pilot of Glee so long ago, especially the climactic dance audition. i hope it doesn't fall down a well that that show did, but I'll keep watching until it does.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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or you could watch Pose

seriously though watch Pose it's like a less depressing This is Us about queer POC

edit: you will cry just as much but they will be happy life affirming tears instead of depressing tears about malfunctioning crockpots

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

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precision posted:

I'm already one of the two people on here watching Pose. It's amazing. I love it.

i know you're great that was a general warning for everyone else.

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