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Red Oktober posted:Ebook sale or physical? Ebook. Got to keep the Kindle full for when I'm rushing around Europe on Edit: 1903 - split between Bolsheviks and Mensheviks occurs, according to the early part of China Mieville's October wot I am reading first. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Hello thread, happy new year! This year I plan to finally join the Labour party and volunteer at the local food charity more. I picked up October, End of Policing, the new poverty, Grand Hotel Abyss, Extreme Cities, & the making of the black working class. At the rate I read, that’ll take me up to 2028.
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Barry Foster posted:My Fash Dad (MFD) was raging about this, for some reason. I didn't stop to ask or figure out why, tho Students make up over 150,000 of the gross immigration figure. I don't know how much taking them out would affect the net figure, but it'd be substantial. That's a problem for the government for several reasons. First if the immigration figure plummets it makes it less easy to shock people into blaming all their problems on immigrants. And secondly, it makes a complete mockery of their long running manifesto pledge to get immigration down to tens of thousands, if they achieve the lions share of that goal by changing the definition.
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Against my better judgement I tried to find something that Toby Young had actually done, rather than simply written about, and I couldn't find anything. He's hosed up anything he's actually tried to achieve and now exists to nail down the Spectator line on every topic he's told to write about. Why do people look at these types and go "hmm yes those are the skills needed".
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Thanks Ants posted:Against my better judgement I tried to find something that Toby Young had actually done, rather than simply written about, and I couldn't find anything. He's hosed up anything he's actually tried to achieve and now exists to nail down the Spectator line on every topic he's told to write about. Traditional British Values. I was going to comment on how people like this getting leadership positions could be linked to the productivity crisis, but we all know such mediocrities have always been elevated due to family connections.
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Thanks Ants posted:Against my better judgement I tried to find something that Toby Young had actually done, rather than simply written about, and I couldn't find anything. He's hosed up anything he's actually tried to achieve and now exists to nail down the Spectator line on every topic he's told to write about. The only good Toby Young articles are the ones where he owns himself, like the time he admitted running a school was much harder than he expected, and the time he casually dropped that he basically got into Oxford after being sent an admissions letter in error. It's especially funny/crushingly depressing that his dad coined the term meritocracy, and used it ironically to dismiss the idea of merit being intelligence plus effort. And the Toad is a clear reminder that this lovely country is about as far from a meritocracy as you can get, ironic or sincere. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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forkboy84 posted:The only good Toby Young articles are the ones where he owns himself, like the time he admitted running a school was much harder than he expected, and the time he casually dropped that he basically got into Oxford after being sent an admissions letter in error. How can you list these and not mention the one where he admits to having no friends, and decides this must be because friendship doesn't exist?
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How do you all remember all these facts about things. Not just Toby Young but some of you seem to have a full list of tory gently caress ups from 2017 when I can barely remember who's in charge of education now. My memory is shite.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You mean immigrants aren't just filling up Great Britain, they're actually displacing Englishmen from their native soil? God imagine how much nicer the country would be if this were true
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jabby posted:How can you list these and not mention the one where he admits to having no friends, and decides this must be because friendship doesn't exist? Isn't this a corollary to the time he organised his own stag and no one came?
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jabby posted:How can you list these and not mention the one where he admits to having no friends, and decides this must be because friendship doesn't exist? Was that the one where no-one turned up at his stag do? edit: Dangit!!!^^^
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I got this article and series letters beneath it from twitter and boy does it make you hate Toby Young all over again. But also:quote:Young seems to think he is held in high regard by free school advocates. When I mentioned his name in the course of interviewing a former Department for Education employee for the piece, my interviewee headbutted the restaurant table in exasperation. I have found the sentiment, if not the gesture, to be common among his ideological comrades. Ooft that's got to hurt
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Bobstar posted:Ebook. Got to keep the Kindle full for when I'm rushing around Europe on Did someone say China Mieville!!!!??!!?!? http://bidisha-online.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/emotional-violence-and-social-power.html
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Happy New Year to the UKMT Revolutionary Vanguard (of chronic internet posters).
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Vlex posted:Isn't this a corollary to the time he organised his own stag and no one came? Kind of worse, he asked his 'best friend' to organise a stag do and not only did the 'best friend' not show up but hardly anyone else did either. From this he concluded that friendship was a myth. Thanks Ants posted:Why do people look at these types and go "hmm yes those are the skills needed". Anyone willing to advocate a clearly harmful ideology that allows for massive profits at the expense of human suffering is always going to be in high demand. You will never be without work if you totally lack a conscience or morals of any kind. jabby fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Literally the one we’re currently discussing.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Did someone say China Mieville!!!!??!!?!? Holy poo poo, gently caress China Mieville.
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Toby Young also insists 100% that he must have been accepted into Oxford 'by mistake' because he failed most of his O levels. The fact that his father was an MP and life peer had nothing to do with it.
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Ace OP, OP. Happy new year all! Ratjaculation posted:Quick! everyone post your brexit.jpg  
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Ratjaculation posted:Quick! everyone post your brexit.jpg 
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Regarde Aduck posted:Did someone say China Mieville!!!!??!!?!? I've never read a single word this guy has written, but I coulda told you he was a oval office just by looking at his oval office face.
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Ratjaculation posted:Quick! everyone post your brexit.jpg https://twitter.com/realflanmurray/status/947820106389835776
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Regarde Aduck posted:Did someone say China Mieville!!!!??!!?!? Jesus Christ  (Shallow of my but I'm glad I could never get into his books now.)
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jabby posted:How can you list these and not mention the one where he admits to having no friends, and decides this must be because friendship doesn't exist? I had completely forgotten about that, which is probably the best of his self owns. What a twerp.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Did someone say China Mieville!!!!??!!?!?  Is anyone in the world non-terrible?
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Maaaaan I really liked City and the City, too. And BBC is making a miniseries of it, too.
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Just you, though. The rest of us know what we've done.
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Miftan posted:You!  Thanks, fellow good-chocolate-opinions-haver
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Bobstar posted:
So um I'm reading that, and it's a lot of words, and I don't doubt he's a lovely person - but am I right in reading that what he's accused of doing is basically telling her she's the one and only while banging a whole bunch of other women? Or is there also something worse in there I'm missing? 
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Bobstar posted:
Jesus christ, the only thing I get remembered in this thread for is having food opinions and being foreign. I'm like a poor Poncholo.
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feedmegin posted:So um I'm reading that, and it's a lot of words, and I don't doubt he's a lovely person - but am I right in reading that what he's accused of doing is basically telling her she's the one and only while banging a whole bunch of other women? Or is there also something worse in there I'm missing? I mean it's pretty obvious from the writing that it's something that causes a shitload of harm to people and you shouldn't do it.
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feedmegin posted:So um I'm reading that, and it's a lot of words, and I don't doubt he's a lovely person - but am I right in reading that what he's accused of doing is basically telling her she's the one and only while banging a whole bunch of other women? Or is there also something worse in there I'm missing? Her writing is super difficult to get through, but I think she's saying he's a scumbag who used emotional manipulation to get her to love him/sleep with him while actually cheating on her/doing the same thing with a bunch of other women. I mean that is pretty bad, and she certainly says it messed her up when it comes to future relationships. It's not quite the same as just cheating on someone.
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Miftan posted:Jesus christ, the only thing I get remembered in this thread for is having food opinions and being foreign. I'm like a poor Poncholo. If it cheers you up any, I have you mentally catalogued as an I/P thread poster who isn't weird realpolitik psychopath. Its a very short list.
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jabby posted:Her writing is super difficult to get through, but I think she's saying he's a scumbag who used emotional manipulation to get her to love him/sleep with him while actually cheating on her/doing the same thing with a bunch of other women. I couldn't get through the whole thing because she writes like a continental philosopher but come on now, being a womanising bastard is hardly on a level with being a rapist. That's not legitimising it, but just kind of saying it would be wrong to throw him in with Weinstein et al. Also I bought my gf his book on the russian revolution for her birthday and both of us thought it was super, so please don't make me hate him internet give me this.
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