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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011




Previous Threads: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2007-2008

Welcome to the Political Cartoons Thread! This is where we post, discuss, and mock political cartoons and the cartoonists that make them. It's Year Two in the Age of Trump, and we await what horrors the year has in store. So more than ever, edits and parodies are welcome in this den of hacks, shills, and has-beens, with weekends being a good opportunity to share any older cartoons you've dug up. Check out your local library for older archives and don't be afraid to share. So familiarize yourself with the thread rules, and dive into what's been called "D&D's worst thread" by critics!


This is the stuff that can get you probated or banned, so listen up.
  • Sometimes cartoonists are cheeky and use nudity in their cartoons. Remember to link that poo poo and put a :nws: warning next to it.
  • There is no moratorium for any subject. When something bad happens, don't tell people that it's "too soon" to bring up topic X, Y, or Z. This bugs the mod staff because it's not like someone is going to come in later and say it's now okay to discuss those topics now. It also derails the thread like you wouldn't believe.
  • Chris Muir and Day by Day are still banned from the thread.
  • Do not touch the poop without extremely careful consideration. "Touching the poop" means interacting with a cartoonist for the sake of getting some chuckles out of it. This can be funny, but some of the cartoonists discussed in this thread have legitimate mental illnesses, and we don't need to send these people over the edge or trying to sue this place (even if you think it would be hilariously futile). If you believe you have a stellar idea, then check in with the thread first before going through with it.


:siren:THESE ARE NOT HARD RULES:siren: This is just a list of recommendations to make the thread go more smoothly. Don't yell at people or report them for violating poo poo here unless it actually violates a forum rule!
  • Discussion about which cartoonist is "best" or "worst" have a tendency to go nowhere fast, and it won't cover anything that hasn't been touched on before.
  • Requesting that people stop posting a particular cartoonist is an exercise in futility. It's nearly impossible to get people to agree on what cartoonists to ban from the thread, so they're all allowed. You're just going to have to suck it up and skip the ones you hate. If you really think a cartoon isn't appropriate for the thread, then take it up with a mod.
  • Having said the above, please limit how often you dig up amateur work from places like DeviantArt, 4chan, or Reddit. While it can be a humorous change of pace to bring up some skinhead's furry cartoons to mock, this has a tendency to get old quickly.
  • When posting a large number of cartoons, don't just post a bunch of links. As a courtesy to people reading, it's helpful to put a unique number next to each cartoon so people can easily pick out certain cartoons out when quoting your post.
  • Kelly from the Onion is parody, and encouraging new readers to think that he's sincere has long stopped being funny.
  • Rarely, a cartoonist will actually acknowledge our existence on social media or wherever. Try not to be weird about it, such as making a post that directly addresses that person.
  • The 2016 Election is a black hole from which no discussion can escape, so tread carefully regarding the subject.
  • That being said, don't be afraid to engage in some discourse over whatever the cartoons are discussing!



Q: This guy got paid for this?
A: Maybe! Political Cartoonists are generally paid in two ways--as a staff position or on a per-cartoon basis by a syndicate.

If a cartoonist is a staff cartoonist, they'll list their employer by their name. These cartoonists are paid a living wage and just about all of their cartoons are actually approved by an editor, printed, and seen by human beings.

If a cartoonist is a member of a syndicate, they'll list their syndicate by their name, usually Cagle or U-Click. These syndicates act as a market for editors. We have no idea whether a particular cartoon posted by a syndicate is actually sold. Reportedly, they are sold for around $10 a cartoon, which is then split by the cartoonist and the syndicate. As you can imagine, this means a cartoonist can make very little or very much in syndication.

There's also the rare exception of cartoonists who are paid by donation, but this is becoming more common through sites such as Patreon and Kickstarter.

Q: How obscure is this guy? Is anyone ever actually going to see this?
A: For most, there's no way to tell. Unless they're a staff cartoonist, the cartoon may never be printed or seen by anyone. Most of the cartoonists here are published to a fairly large audience but, as the internet offers easier ways to get your work out there, this thread has seen an increasing amount of obscure or fringe cartoonists. Just assume they're read by a non-trivial amount of people unless there's proof otherwise.

Q: Is everyone posted here an evil, stupid, conservative rear end in a top hat?
A: No, we post all kinds. Sometimes a cartoon will present an evil idea sarcastically, sometimes they're just evil. If you can't tell just by looking at it, just look them up in the index for a very general idea.

Q: Did this cartoonist get a Pulitzer for one cartoon or what?
A: Apparently Pulitzers many decades ago were given out for a particular cartoon or two, but as time goes on it seems to have shifted to the artist's work for the year. So while we make mock someone like Ramirez for obvious "Pulitzer Bait", technically all of his cartoons are judged for the award. Yeah...we don't hold the Pulitzer in high regard.

Q: Is this just for American/Canadian cartoonists, or...?
A: We allow cartoons of all stripes, and we adore stuff from foreign cartoonists as a break from the usual suspects. There is a thread for UK cartoons, but we've felt that there haven't been enough UK cartoons posted in this thread and would encourage people to start posting them in here again. However it would be nice, if you have the time, to explain some of the stuff that harder to decipher.

Q: What about funny page cartoons? Webcomics?
A: A cartoon with regular political content, such as Doonesbury or Prickly City, can be posted here no problem. Your Garfield and Family Circus stuff should go to the Comic Strip Megathread in BSS, although feel free to share the rare individual strips that are political in nature. Webcomics follow the same procedure: it's fair game if there's overt contemporary political themes, otherwise take it elsewhere. Remember that Day by Day, a political webcomic, is banned from this thread. Take it to the Bad Webcomic Thread or whatever place allows such garbage.

Q: Can I share this crazy email from my mom? How about this image macro I saw on Facebook?
A: This thread is strictly for political cartoons. Check out this thread for sharing political emails from your family, and this thread for political pictures. If you wish to further go down the rabbit hole, check out the Right Wing Media and Freep threads.

Q:Can I see more from X?
A: We'd really like to see more people consistently posting the same cartoonist(s) so they don't get missed. If you want to step up to the plate for a particular person, then by all means. You can post them as they come, or do weekly dumps if that's easier on you.

Q:What happened to the cartoonist index?
A: The index was an artifact from when old poster XyloJW made the thread, and I kept it updated for the sake of new people. However, the list took a decent chunk of time to update each year, and very few people used it so it didn't solve the problem of people asking the same questions about cartoonists. Xander77 made a few profiles about the more infamous cartoonists posted here, in case you need a primer:
Payne: http://imgur.com/gallery/C2ysj
Garrison: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZdFwM
Tinsley: http://imgur.com/gallery/hFGWV
Gorrell: http://imgur.com/gallery/rnrPT
Ramirez: http://imgur.com/gallery/QrEjj
Rall: http://imgur.com/gallery/xDjKV


The thread has developed a few inside jokes and terms:

AGC: Shorthand for "A Good Cartoon." Basically, you intentionally interpret a comic with a fairly obvious bad message as having a good message. The original point of this was to poke fun at some of the really poor metaphors that some cartoonists were crafting, but the concept of AGC has been run into the ground. If you want to see some quality ones, Saint Sputnik has a blog dedicated to these.
Benghazi: While I think everyone is familiar with the Benghazi attacks, newer users might be unaware that one of the victims was Sean "vilerat" Smith, who was a long-time member and moderator of D&D. Seeing cartoonists use the death of a sincerely missed member of the community as a desperate attempt to smear Obama has made Benghazi a rather sore issue for everyone in this thread.
Can't Handle: The thread is known for getting into spats over ridiculous subjects. However, this phrase was used waaaaay too much, and you're not being witty by yelling "Can't Handle!" when people arguing over actual political stuff as opposed to goofy poo poo like weathervanes. Yes, we have actually argued over weathervanes.
DASGC: Stands for "Dumb and so Goddamn Crazy." A cartoon that portrays the opposing side as screaming, ignorant children, and their own side as patient, knowledgeable adults. Based on a Shmorky cartoon.
Don't Be Willfully Dense: A line from cartoonist Eric Allie when someone pointed out how stupid his cartoon was. Has become a thread motto of sorts to not be an idiot when interpreting the message of any given cartoon.
The Gay Abortions: Our annual awards for the worst cartoons of the year (and the best edits or parodies). Named after a hilarious parody cartoon, you should try to keep the really awful cartoons that crop up this year in the back of your mind so you'll have nominees ready by next December.
Gerald: A name given to a stock character used in many conservative cartoons. Typically a standard middle-aged white guy with glasses and little hair. Exists only to wryly point out how bad and dumb the strawman of the day is.
It's a Powerful Symbol: Phrase made popular during the short-lived Kelly commentaries. When describing the crying Statue of Liberty, Kelly said "it's a powerful symbol...you don't want to overuse it" when of course the joke is that Liberty is in nearly every Kelly cartoon. Used sarcastically for overused symbolism, especially Liberty but can be anything such as bald eagles or uncle sam.
Nonsense...This Is An Election Year: This phrase comes from a cartoon that was the subject of an Onion article mocking nonsensical political cartoons. Sometimes a person may post this phrase in response to a political cartoon, and that's basically a way of saying "this makes no loving sense."
Pants Donkey: The nickname for a donkey from an old Mike Luckovich cartoon, and is essentially the mascot of the thread at this point. We have no idea why.
PBF: The Perry Bible Fellowship was a webcomic that people frequently over-analyzed, so much to the point that to "PBF" something is to dig way deeper than you were supposed to for a cartoon's meaning.
Wormbama: It was common for Michael Ramirez to draw former President Obama with a weird squished face that resembled a worm. The thread game up with this nickname for the phenomenon.
You Gotta Give Me the Fangs: Another joke from the brief Kelly video series, it references Kelly begging his editor to keep fangs on a Chinese person. Used to describe when a cartoonist is being especially racist with their caricature.
Zionism: Okay, not really unique to this thread, but enough people have asked about it to merit being in here. Zionism, in a very simple definition, is just far-right nationalism for Israel. However, if you are hearing Zionism used in the same context as the Rothschilds or the Illuminati or basically any Dees cartoon, then you're just dealing with antisemitic conspiracy stuff.



Some edits, parodies, and cartoons become quite memorable and frequently requested. Please check out the Politoon Archive first before asking for stuff in the thread. I'll be using the OP to collect memorable stuff from this year, and then archive it at the end of the year.


Sometimes stuff that starts here gets collected on its own site. Note that several of these sites have stopped updating, but the archives are always fun for a spin.


A Good Cartoon: Saint Sputnik collects the best AGCs here.
Ye Fowl Herald: You know that old medieval tapestry maker thing that was popular on the internet several years ago? Well, Saint Sputnik is using it to recreate Mallard Fillmore strips.
Iran Will Have Nukes Any Day Now: I have collected cartoons that predict the imminent threat of a nuclear Iran. Some of these cartoons are over a decade old.
If Global Warming Is Real, Then Why Is It Cold: A depressing collection of cartoons that display people's complete lack of climate education.
Political PBF: Some unknown genius took old PBF strips and turning them into political cartoons. It's a lot better than it sounds.

Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jun 24, 2018

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011


Here's a short list of thread headliners. These people put out content at a regular rate and drive most of the thread's conversations.


Ramirez is, depressingly, the face of American political cartooning. Part of this is because his career has effectively been astroturfed by Fox News and other right wing outlets, who invite him on to tell him how genius his scrawlings are. The other part is how hilariously bad he is at his job: he cannot draw to the point where even people he likes look like flesh monsters. He also is terrible at visual metaphor, using crosshatching excessively as a crutch. He has a fondness for DEBT cartoons, and largely parrots the establishment Republican talking points. Ramirez is particularly known for his god-awful caricatures, turning people both friend and foe into grotesque horrors better suited for some cheap Lovecraft knockoff comic. His Obama was so bad it was given the nickname "Wormbama" since he turned Obama's head in a weird tube. Somehow he has won the Pulitzer Prize twice, rendering the award meaningless for all winners both past, present, and future.


This thread originally spawned from an old mock thread dedicated to solely making fun of Mallard Fillmore. It is technically a comic strip, as it occupies the funny pages daily as opposed to being randomly chosen to end up on the editorial page. While originally having a full cast with stories, Tinsley decided he didn’t need to put in effort and, for about a decade, the strip has consisted of a duck on a white background giving either conservative talking points or ranting about something laughably trivial in Tinsley’s life (he seriously spent a week whining that he got scented candles for Christmas). Ironically, Tinsley may only have a regular career because papers want to appear “balanced” so they can run Doonesbury without getting letters from angry old people.


A bigoted rear end in a top hat if there ever was one, Mike Lester will be your tea party host for this thread. He's never found a racist cause he can't jump on, and is always quick to side with the police when a black person dies. He's also profoundly homophobic, as evidenced by this photo of him smugly eating Chick-fil-A when the company was against gay marriage. His art isn't terrible, but it does come off as extremely meanspirited and stupid whenever he's on the attack. If that weren't enough, Lester was also visited by the police some years ago for beating his wife. As a result, he tends to be a tad sensitive when people accuse men of misconduct against women...unless they're democrats, of course.



A celebrated cartoonist, both here and in his career, Bennett is a veteran of the craft and it shows. His artstyle is simple, and he uses it to great effect to draft up excellent visual metaphors that get the point across. Recently, however, Bennett has been in something of a slump. Instead of coming up with funny cartoons that make you go "drat!", he has opted for lower-hanging fruit, tending to sit back and call Republicans crazy and stupid. Basically, his opinions are correct, but they don't really discuss the issues, and they are just different ways of saying "conservatism bad." Which is fine once in a while, but it'd be nice to see something with a bit more substance and relevance to current news as opposed to cartoons you can put out literally any time of the year. Nonetheless, Bennett is a considerable cut above the rest, and every so often you do see that spark that made him a thread favorite.


One of the more loathed persons here, Rall is what happens when you give a person with no talent a platform. I don’t think anyone in this thread is more egotistical than Rall, who sees himself as the champion of far-left causes. His art is horrendous (he defends it with the tired “style” argument), his arguments tend to be contrarian, and he cannot help but make everything about him. Even movements such as Black Lives Matters, where he went on a personal crusade against the LAPD when he got a ticket. He lost, but to this day still rails about it. Rall will typically attack both sides and us, the people, for not rising up against them…until we do, in which case he criticizes the protests (see OWS, various Trump protests). Rall just genuinely sucks.


Matt Bors is a protege of Rall, and therefore the only good thing I can think off that Rall has produced. A younger cartoonist, Bors tends to come at humor from more of our angle: he goes for meta humor over visual metaphors, multiple panels over single images, and dipping his toes into memes every so often. Unlike a lot of cartoonists, Bors also knows that art is kinda important to the humor, and thus a lot of laughs come from both the facial expressions and the jokes he sets up with them. Bors is also trying to get political cartooning as an actual career you can do without being a legacy cartoonist from 30 years ago. He ran the Nib on Medium for a few years, which hosted up-and-coming political works, tries to run books on Kickstarter, and works on collabs with others. Bors is good people.


The cartoonist for the Onion, Kelly is without a doubt the most beloved and cherished cartoonist in the thread. Defying the political spectrum, Kelly operates solely within the boundaries of the original political party: common sense. Once a week, you can rest a bit easier knowing that Kelly knows your pain, be it nagging wives or confusing gizmos. A winner of the Thurston Bronze Quill Award, Kelly is a veteran artist in the industry, employing a more classical style of art that employs old-fashioned materials and know-how. There have been rumors that Kelly is actually just a satire of political cartoons from known has-been and hack, Ward Sutton, but it's safe to assume these are nothing more than jealous lies spread by Sutton and his tasteless followers. So put that out of your mind, pour yourself a whiskey sour (or three), and enjoy the finest political cartoonist of a generation.

Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Jan 1, 2018

World Famous W
May 25, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Yet another year of poo poo to waller in and yet another year to make the same loving post!

Happy New Years!

Will have Gaybies up in a few days.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Are you ready to see barrels and barrels of ink wasted on pure incompetent dreck? Hell yes!

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?
Preemptively gently caress this year, let's ride.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Maybe we can keep a running tally of StantisAllie's hand-wringing vs. actual cartooning.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Quorum posted:

Preemptively gently caress this year, let's ride.
:same:

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Eagerly awaiting another year of cartoonists slowly realizing that Trump is an extension, rather than an aberration, of what they do for a living.

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

Pants Donkey posted:

Q:What happened to the cartoonist index?
A: The index was an artifact from when old poster XyloJW made the thread, and I kept it updated for the sake of new people. However, the list took a decent chunk of time to update each year, and very few people used it so it didn't solve the problem of people asking the same questions about cartoonists. You can always head to older threads, and maybe I'll throw it on a google doc so some other person with too much time can maintain it.

And here I was anticipating Zelda's entry to that hallowed hall. :v:

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhhhhhhjhhhhhhhhhjjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cannabis
It begins

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry
Thank god I can just delete the bookmarked 4000 post backlog of the old thread and start here

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Dees seemed to have stopped making new stuff roughly halfway through last year but his site has changed so the Illuminati didn't get him. Maybe the whiplash from "Trump will save America" to "Trump is a zionist agent" got to him. I think this is the only new art from him since then.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
Who's ready for another great year in the fine art of political cartooning? :toot:

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.


I will probably upload all the edits later. Imgur is messing with me.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


CampingCarl posted:

Dees seemed to have stopped making new stuff roughly halfway through last year but his site has changed so the Illuminati didn't get him. Maybe the whiplash from "Trump will save America" to "Trump is a zionist agent" got to him. I think this is the only new art from him since then.


good on plucky lil' 2nd amendment, he sure showed... all those kids... at sandy hook?

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


I can't wait to see what horrifying new wonders 2018 will bring to us

itskage
Aug 26, 2003


Can someone post the Yugioh fossil record comic? I was looking in the past OPs the other day and couldn't find it.

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

itskage posted:

Can someone post the Yugioh fossil record comic? I was looking in the past OPs the other day and couldn't find it.



One of the first google image search results, fwiw.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

MissEchelon posted:

good on plucky lil' 2nd amendment, he sure showed... all those kids... at sandy hook?

In this case the term you are looking for is "Crisis Child Actors".

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Here we go again.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
2017 can go to hell.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Starting 2018 with a fever, choosing to take it as a good omen.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

ratbert90 posted:

2017 can go to hell.
At least we ain't all dead



Yet

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

I went ahead and added a short-list of popular cartoonists to the second post. Consider it my gift to you.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

quote:

(from the end of the last thread)

I like this, can we portray the new year as a young woman ready to take on the world from now on?

Though that makes her always growing into an old man kinda unusual, but whatever.

itskage
Aug 26, 2003


Post poste posted:



One of the first google image search results, fwiw.

Eh, I googled it at work and got nothing but pics of cards. Here at home it is my 4th result.

Thanks though.

Trazz
Jun 11, 2008
2018 predictions:

-Trump shits himself while golfing, Ben Garrison makes a cartoon showing Hillary Clinton making GBS threads herself instead while Adonis Trump looks on.
-Kirschen will finally retire and/or die.
-Mike Lester will continue to beat his wife, and thus provide the answer to the question "are you still beating your wife?"

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Another year, let's hope we get some change for the better for once.
:getin:

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Has anyone been able to see the My Friend Dahmer movie made out of Derf's book? It is getting good reviews.

Occultatio
Aug 4, 2005

a massive toolclown who cannot stop causing problems
You know what comic we haven't seen in a while? The one that's about half-and-half really good and really tepid. Here's some of the better ones from the past month or so:





mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I don't post here often but I wanted to wish everyone here a Happy New Year. This thread rarely disappoints and I'm glad to see it carry over once again.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Post poste posted:



One of the first google image search results, fwiw.

That is the goddamned stupidest take on evolution ive ever seen and ive seen the "banana fits hand" one

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013
I like that "They used to say that about Reagan, too." in the first panel. :allears:

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Zivilyn Bane posted:

I like that "They used to say that about Reagan, too." in the first panel. :allears:

Yeah its like these idiots dont even know the difference between being a retard and being a cowardly quisling for business interests with early onset Alzheimer's

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Poor Mountain and Western thread-goers had their 2017 thread ripped out from under them

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I think Branco should have a headliner profile because he's easily as or more hateful than Lester and noteworthy for how undisguised his attempts to make people he dislikes look evil are.

And Garrison should also have a profile for being a complete maniac who loves nazis and Daddy Trump.

Also there's a bunch of grammatical errors in the second post and I really want to fix them.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
Happy 2018 from Bruce Tinsley!


This year's Prickly City is already boring.

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
All
Night
Non
Stop

GoutPatrol posted:

Has anyone been able to see the My Friend Dahmer movie made out of Derf's book? It is getting good reviews.

Yeah. I would definitely recommend it.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Post poste posted:



One of the first google image search results, fwiw.

If this argument made any sense at all, it would apply to living organisms, which also have many instances per species, therefore plant and animal life must not exist, and if being able to confuse the person you're debating counts as "winning", I'll say that creationism is like Pokemon and how could Noah have caught them all in seven days

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420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

https://twitter.com/turing_police/status/946106786754437120

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