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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Guys, daesh has no surviving major bases and Assad has effectively won the Syrian civil war. The only potentially worthwhile goal remaining is to guarantee the independence of the Kurds, and I don't think that was ever on the table even for Obama/Clinton. The Syria withdrawal isn't a bad thing. Don't cheerlead interventionism.

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D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Hey guys. Guys. Guess what. I IDENTIFY AS A POTTED PLANT! BA-BOOM! KNEEL BEFORE MY SICK BURN! - Tinsley

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

fool_of_sound posted:

Guys, daesh has no surviving major bases and Assad has effectively won the Syrian civil war. The only potentially worthwhile goal remaining is to guarantee the independence of the Kurds, and I don't think that was ever on the table even for Obama/Clinton. The Syria withdrawal isn't a bad thing. Don't cheerlead interventionism.

Unfortunately American political discourse isn't equipped to have a discussion about this because it's either "we in" or "we out," and not "we out but also we're going to Hell for leading the Kurds to expect we would protect them from genocide."

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

duz posted:

Died of a flu strain this year's vaccine was for.

It's the gift that keeps on giving.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

D.N. Nation posted:

Hey guys. Guys. Guess what. I IDENTIFY AS A POTTED PLANT! BA-BOOM! KNEEL BEFORE MY SICK BURN! - Tinsley

guest writer: Luis CK

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Nicola Jennings on migration between the UK and the EU – As Brexit nears, a surge in cross-Channel migration has caused alarm in some quarters"

Telegraph:


Independent:


Times:


Happy new year, Politoon peeps! May your 2019 be as painless as possible.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

fool_of_sound posted:

Guys, daesh has no surviving major bases and Assad has effectively won the Syrian civil war. The only potentially worthwhile goal remaining is to guarantee the independence of the Kurds, and I don't think that was ever on the table even for Obama/Clinton. The Syria withdrawal isn't a bad thing. Don't cheerlead interventionism.

I don't care what Obama or Clinton would have done, saying "welp, we're done here" and bailing on loyal allies to let the Turks go all Armenia on their asses is bad. Doesn't matter if we should have been there in the first place, we are now and that obliges us to protect people who have risked a lot to help us.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

This 2019 baby is hosed

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Cat Mattress posted:

Yeah, sure, abandoning the Kurds means that civilians will be safe, oh no

I didn't say that, you said that claiming we're murdering Muslims in Syria is equivalent to claiming every Muslim is in ISIS, which no absolutely not, the US is a callous and brutal empire that thinks nothing of piling up stacks of innocent victims in pursuit of its ghoulish foreign policy establishment's geopolitical goals.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


sexpig by night posted:

guest writer: Luis CK

I haven’t kept up with Louis CK after it came out he was a sexual harasser but has he started to cash in on alt-right welfare by pandering to them now?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Dr. VooDoo posted:

I haven’t kept up with Louis CK after it came out he was a sexual harasser but has he started to cash in on alt-right welfare by pandering to them now?

He has reached the stage of his career where he makes his money touring red states and making jokes about Kids These Days

purkey
Dec 5, 2003

I hate the 90s

The kids these days being the Parkland shooting survivors and transgendered kids

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


loquacius posted:

He has reached the stage of his career where he makes his money touring red states and making jokes about Kids These Days

I just looked it up and the past few days there’s been leaks of his latest stand up where he makes fun of the Parkland survivors for wanting gun control, trans people, and good old fashion antisemitism

Funny man Louis CK posted:

And he said, “You need to stop eating ice cream.” I said, “You need to go gently caress yourself. And don’t ever touch me again, you old human being. You old loving Jewish fag. Get your loving hands off me.” You’re loving with my ice cream, I get upset.

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“They testify in front of Congress, these kids? What are they doing?” he said. “You’re young, you should be crazy, you should be unhinged, not in a suit… you’re not interesting. Because you went to a high school where kids got shot? Why does that mean I have to listen to you?… You didn’t got shot, you pushed some fat kid in the way, and now I’ve gotta listen to you talking?”


He’s clearly angling for Alt-Right neo nazi’s more then simple “kids these days” old Republican comedy though there really isn’t much of a difference at this point

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Help Im Alive posted:

This 2019 baby is hosed

Children being hosed is a common theme wherever you find right wing politicians.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Stultus Maximus posted:

I don't care what Obama or Clinton would have done, saying "welp, we're done here" and bailing on loyal allies to let the Turks go all Armenia on their asses is bad. Doesn't matter if we should have been there in the first place, we are now and that obliges us to protect people who have risked a lot to help us.

Plus, I agree we don't need to be in Syria, but I'd rather the decision not come about because the President basically threw up his hands and said "gently caress it, it's all yours" while on a phone call with his Turkish dictator buddy, and then announced immediate withdrawal via tweet without actually consulting anyone in the military and/or State Department.

betaraywil
Dec 30, 2006

Gather the wind
Though the wind won't help you fly at all

Dr. VooDoo posted:

He’s clearly angling for Alt-Right neo nazi’s more then simple “kids these days” old Republican comedy though there really isn’t much of a difference at this point

It's just like what George Carlin did, kind of, sort of, not really, oh God stop man.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Selachian posted:

Plus, I agree we don't need to be in Syria, but I'd rather the decision not come about because the President basically threw up his hands and said "gently caress it, it's all yours" while on a phone call with his Turkish dictator buddy, and then announced immediate withdrawal via tweet without actually consulting anyone in the military and/or State Department.
Yeah this is my concern about it. I am not pro-war, but Trump appears to have just made a major decision on spur of the moment. Forgive me for questioning whether he made the right choice.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

I have gone my whole life without ever having seen this old man with a scythe and the baby with the sash and top hat. What's the origin of this? Looks like its super common.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Dr. VooDoo posted:

I just looked it up and the past few days there’s been leaks of his latest stand up where he makes fun of the Parkland survivors for wanting gun control, trans people, and good old fashion antisemitism



He’s clearly angling for Alt-Right neo nazi’s more then simple “kids these days” old Republican comedy though there really isn’t much of a difference at this point

Just makes it easier to shout for him to show his dick.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

VitalSigns posted:

I didn't say that, you said that claiming we're murdering Muslims in Syria is equivalent to claiming every Muslim is in ISIS, which no absolutely not, the US is a callous and brutal empire that thinks nothing of piling up stacks of innocent victims in pursuit of its ghoulish foreign policy establishment's geopolitical goals.

You're missing the bit where Rall says the Kurds are "strategic partners in killing Muslims" I think.

And again, the bombing raids are done by aircraft; aircraft that are not based in Syria. Removing troops from Rojava has no effect on the USAF nor on the air wings of the Navy and Marines. Trump didn't say he'd stop air strikes.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Count Roland posted:

I have gone my whole life without ever having seen this old man with a scythe and the baby with the sash and top hat. What's the origin of this? Looks like its super common.

Seriously? Old Man Time and the New Year is one of the oldest tropes out there.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




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Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe

*pulls envelope away from turban and opens it*
"Name four things Trump will never do."



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Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!


Heh, Democrats don’t believe one government program will work, but they DO believe that another, totally unrelated one will? Talk about hypocrisy :smug:

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012


quote:

Other trends, however, passed by more quietly. In health care, for example, maternal deaths inched up slightly this year to 20.7 per 100,000 live births, according to data from the United Health Foundation. In fact, giving birth in the United States has become increasingly deadly over the past few decades, placing our country in the same category as developing nations such as Afghanistan and Swaziland. And the rates are even worse for mothers of color.

Infants are facing their own hurdles as well. The latest CDC data released this year shows that U.S. infant mortality rates, after steadily falling over the past few decades, haven’t decreased significantly for five years. Today it stands at 5.9 deaths per 1,000 births, far higher than the average rate of 3.9 deaths for developed countries. Again, it’s even worse for infants of color.

We can attribute many of these trends to a lack of access to health care, which itself is looking pretty grim. Data released this month by the Kaiser Family Foundation shows that, in 2017, we’ve begun to reverse gains in health-care coverage for the first time since the Affordable Care Act was enacted in 2010.

Get hosed.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


OK Republicans. Try to kill Medicare. I dare you.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
Viva la swamp

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





Good.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Mellow Seas posted:



Heh, Democrats don’t believe one government program will work, but they DO believe that another, totally unrelated one will? Talk about hypocrisy :smug:

Lack of availability and affordability in health care is a dangerous obstruction to our nation and federal funding should be spent on ensuring that it is fixed up so no more citizens die unnecessarily.

Also what the donkey said...

A good comic.

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

You hack, in order for the shadow 'hood' to appear on that side the beard would have to be billowing back on the opposite side of the old man.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

Only introducing Medicare4All is insufficient to fill the hole that is the US Healthcare industry, in addition the state will need to expropriate big pharma, produce cures that have been deemed unprofitable and produce generic drugs. A surprisingly radical cartoon.

AngrySpork
Nov 9, 2003

The most powerful voice in gaming

Dr. VooDoo posted:

I just looked it up and the past few days there’s been leaks of his latest stand up where he makes fun of the Parkland survivors for wanting gun control, trans people, and good old fashion antisemitism



He’s clearly angling for Alt-Right neo nazi’s more then simple “kids these days” old Republican comedy though there really isn’t much of a difference at this point

As someone else said, he is angling for Milo's job

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I was told a long time ago that whaling is a good way for right-wingers in Japan to thumb their nose at the West without making any governments actually very angry. I wonder if it will stay that way?

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Samurai Sanders posted:

I was told a long time ago that whaling is a good way for right-wingers in Japan to thumb their nose at the West without making any governments actually very angry. I wonder if it will stay that way?

Yes, whaling is something that survives in Japan only through cronyism; it isn't commercially viable and whalers would go bankrupt without subsidies. The Japanese government spends every year the equivalent of several hundred million dollars to prop up whalers; plus the expense of sending the Japanese navy to escort the ships.

The upside is that now Japan will only be allowed to hunt whales in its own waters (including EEZ). While they were abusing the "scientific research" loophole, they could hunt whales in international waters too. The Sea Shepherd, who are fiercely against whaling, thought that this was an overall positive change for this reason:
https://seashepherd.org/2018/12/21/japan-may-quit-the-iwc-and-to-return-to-commercial-whaling/

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5. Japan will not be able to kill whales in the Southern Ocean. It is an internationally established whale sanctuary and the only reason Japan has been able to flaunt the law is by invoking the excuse of ‘scientific research whaling.” Overt commercial whaling is strictly prohibited in the Southern Ocean and Japan has indicated it will quit the Southern Ocean while expanding whaling in the North Pacific. This would mean that the current whaling season in Antarctic waters will be the last.

7. Opposition to illegal Japanese commercial whaling will be easier. Basically, we will be dealing with poachers. Japan will no longer be able to pretend that their commercial whaling is research whaling.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Cat Mattress posted:


The upside is that now Japan will only be allowed to hunt whales in its own waters (including EEZ). While they were abusing the "scientific research" loophole, they could hunt whales in international waters too.
You may scoff, but it is only through years of scientific study that Japanese scientists have been able to fully study how delicious whale meat is.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Fulchrum posted:

You may scoff, but it is only through years of scientific study that Japanese scientists have been able to fully study how delicious whale meat is.

It isn’t though. It straight nasty and that’s why it has to be subsidized. The vast majority of Japanese people don’t like whale meat and it’s only something the older generation eats because it was basically used as cheap meat from the government during the post war world II reconstruction

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea the only reason whale meat is a thing is A) idiots buying it for ~the taboo~ or B) super olds who remember it from their childhood during the post war era. There's no market for whale as some kinda super cool and tasty meat chefs and aficionados are clamoring for.

betaraywil
Dec 30, 2006

Gather the wind
Though the wind won't help you fly at all

Dr. VooDoo posted:

It isn’t though. It straight nasty and that’s why it has to be subsidized. The vast majority of Japanese people don’t like whale meat and it’s only something the older generation eats because it was basically used as cheap meat from the government during the post war world II reconstruction

Whale meat is the Christmas Music of meat. How about that.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Who's the grim, grinning ghost in the upper left?


M4A costs less than the alternative, Skelley. The Wall costs overwhelmingly more.

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Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

Besesoth posted:

Who's the grim, grinning ghost in the upper left?

Looks like a Soros caricature, because of course

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