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All right Judge Dredd, law enforcement deliberately sabotaging a march for democracy to keep the fascist regime in place is officially not fun.
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Hello, i just read what i think is my first comic book, watchmen. It seemed good to me.
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ArfJason posted:Hello, i just read what i think is my first comic book, watchmen. It seemed good to me. Now let me tell you why it is the worst thing ever..... In all honesty there are plenty of great comics out there for people who don't usually read comics and if you ever want any recommendations just ask this forum! Also congratulations on your first foray into geekdom
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Jan 26, 2018 02:40
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Yeah, dont worry i know my way around. Next stop, cable meets youngblood and bloodshed and bladeblood and deathyouth.
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Jan 26, 2018 02:41
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ArfJason posted:Hello, i just read what i think is my first comic book, watchmen. It seemed good to me. You're infected now, I'm sorry.
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Jan 26, 2018 02:41
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In any case ive always wanted to read that serious house on serious earth comic because it looks so uhhhh ethereal? Dreamlike? I dunno it looks cool
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Jan 26, 2018 02:42
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Sandman and Shade The Changing Man are interesting picks for some craziness.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:49
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If you liked Watchmen, you might like Haikyu
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Jan 26, 2018 03:52
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Yeah sandman is one of those people rave about all the time and i had the chance to read it until my friend got tired of me calling him neil gayman and she no longer speaks to me
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Jan 26, 2018 04:05
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Guy Goodbody posted:If you liked Watchmen, you might like Haikyu The gimmick's old now.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:39
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read avengers 200  read onslaught reborn hoo boy we have fun in here also read trouble i got a million of 'em heh heh heh heh heh sorry but someone had to do it heh heh heh Also tell your friend his name is actually really pronounced Neil Gay-Men so you can be friends with your friend again?
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Edge & Christian posted:hoo boy we have fun in here also read trouble I know I say this every time but God damnit Trouble is a fun stupid teen sex farce.
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ArfJason posted:Yeah sandman is one of those people rave about all the time and i had the chance to read it until my friend got tired of me calling him neil gayman and she no longer speaks to me Hmm
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Jan 26, 2018 05:55
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It's pronounced gay-min so whatever. Also read Daytripper. And Onslaught Reborn
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https://twitter.com/alexisthenedd/status/956651864698818560 I'd watch it, if only to infuriate all the people bitching about a black woman playing Batman. Seriously though, if The Santa Clause had starred Oprah instead of Tim Allen there would have been protests, though there's nothing in that film that precludes it happening to Oprah, it's just a coincidence that it happened to a white dude.
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ArfJason posted:Yeah sandman is one of those people rave about all the time and i had the chance to read it until my friend got tired of me calling him neil gayman and she no longer speaks to me Your friend sounds cool, buy her an account
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Jan 26, 2018 13:07
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Isn't it pronounced "gay men"?
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purple death ray posted:Your friend sounds cool, buy her an account There's no place for cool people on this forum.
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Lurdiak posted:All right Judge Dredd, law enforcement deliberately sabotaging a march for democracy to keep the fascist regime in place is officially not fun. From what I remember, this is one thing that sticks with Dredd a lot. He ends up softening a bit over the Democracy Now movement because of what happened in that arc.
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Is anyone familiar enough with the process of professional comics creation to know what a flatter does? I've seen the word used by colorists on twitter but I have no idea what role they play
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site posted:Is anyone familiar enough with the process of professional comics creation to know what a flatter does? I've seen the word used by colorists on twitter but I have no idea what role they play http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2016/04/01/cc-flatter/ I thought someone had bought a google smiley but I guess not.
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Nice, ty
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Anyone know what happened to James Tynion on Twitter? His account's gone. https://twitter.com/jamesthefourth
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Teenage Fansub posted:Anyone know what happened to James Tynion on Twitter? His account's gone. He wants job security?
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I just finished the Mangog saga in the Kirby Thor run and goddamn every panel is amazing. I want to post so much of it. If you haven’t read it, you absolutely should. From Sif to Balder to Loki to the Warriors Three every character gets their moment to shine. Sif really was one of the only strong female characters from that period of comics. She gets a couple lovely scenes in that era but when Mangog breaks into the room that holds the Odinsword and Thor tells her to get behind him her retort that no, her place is at his side, is perfect. The only thing I have trouble with is how much of a big stupid jerk Odin is.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Isn't it pronounced "gay men"? Mun.
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Good thing I haven't had much call to say his name out loud. I would've looked foolish.
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As I’m going through old marvel books I’m trying to supplement by reading blog posts or articles about that period in comics. I read one about the marvel method on dial b for blog that got me thinking about what constitutes a story. quote:New definition: An artist opens a vein and pours out their life's blood onto a blank page, creating the characters and their world, the plot, pacing, and setting -- in short, creating ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. Then Stan Lee adds captions, sound effects and dialogue. That's the REAL definition of the Marvel Method: Stan wrote the words. And he certainly NEVER illustrated a single comic book story, ever, for Marvel or any other company. I can't even recall seeing one of his doodles! He is not an illustrator, he never has been, and he never will be. I think it’s interesting to say that an artist created everything when what really resonates for me in a lot of the better stories is the dialogue and characterization that comes through. But it also makes me wonder: are there any examples of people taking those old books and writing different dialogue to tell different stories? I’m curious what could be done with the same art (knowing that the process of pencil > dialogue > ink still lets the artist draw to the dialogue).
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Does that post discuss instances where the dialogue changes what the artist intended? For example, Ditko drew a panel where Spider-Man swings past some strikers or protesters with the intent that Spidey would be admonishing them, but Lee's dialogue indicated that Peter supported them; or Byrne drew a sequence in which Colossus uproots the stump of a tree with the intention that it was an effortless feat of strength for him, but Claremont's narration indicated that doing this taxed Colossus's strength to its limits.
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Let me guess, an artist wrote that?
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Jordan7hm posted:I just finished the Mangog saga in the Kirby Thor run and goddamn every panel is amazing. I want to post so much of it. If you haven’t read it, you absolutely should. From Sif to Balder to Loki to the Warriors Three every character gets their moment to shine. Sif really was one of the only strong female characters from that period of comics. She gets a couple lovely scenes in that era but when Mangog breaks into the room that holds the Odinsword and Thor tells her to get behind him her retort that no, her place is at his side, is perfect. Mangog looks kind of goofy, but it's awesome that the most terrifying enemy in Thor looks like one of Kirby's old monster books. Hope you're reading the latest story line in the current Thor book. Mangog is tearing poo poo up.
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Samuringa posted:"writing the words" is creating the world, plot, setting, and all that He's specifically referring to how Stan would sometimes (but not always) just add dialogue after an artist did everything else. This isn't the traditional "Marvel method", which involved the writer doing a plot outline and letting the artist adapt it how he felt was best, then adding dialogue. Stan himself points out that he did very little on the later issues of Spider-man that Ditko worked on, for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4z7xuDhMeg&t=124s The Marvel Method gave artists more creative freedom than was traditional at the time, and allowed a relatively small team at early Marvel to put out a ton of books. It should also be pointed out that Jack Kirby and Stan Lee had often worked for companies that gave neither writer or artist credit for their work, and that Jack often wrote and drew comics that the publisher took all the credit (and sometimes money) for. There's a lot to criticize Stan Lee for, but pretending the artists did "EVERYTHING" and that he just "put words in" in every case is not just ungenerous, it's a flat-out lie. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Lurdiak posted:There's a lot to criticize Stan Lee for, but pretending the artists did "EVERYTHING" and that he just "put words in" in every case is not just ungenerous, it's a flat-out lie. Yeah, it seems like one of those things where people who don't know much think Stan Lee is a superstar without peer because of his self promotion, then people who read about it find out the artists were really important too, so then other people want to take it the next step to be really smart and say actually Stan Lee didn't do anything important at all. As much as the idea gets mocked, sometimes the truth really is in the middle, and it's worth remembering that while Stan Lee definitely exaggerated his importance for a very long time, and gave credit only grudgingly later, perhaps the artists themselves weren't 100% reliable narrators either.
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Sinteres posted:Yeah, it seems like one of those things where people who don't know much think Stan Lee is a superstar without peer because of his self promotion, then people who read about it find out the artists were really important too, so then other people want to take it the next step to be really smart and say actually Stan Lee didn't do anything important at all. As much as the idea gets mocked, sometimes the truth really is in the middle, and it's worth remembering that while Stan Lee definitely exaggerated his importance for a very long time, and gave credit only grudgingly later, perhaps the artists themselves weren't 100% reliable narrators either. The Edison/Tesla phenomenon.
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Man, I just read The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe--it's basically "The Boys" writ small. Was there some reason it wasn't just a What If?
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A Strange Aeon posted:Man, I just read The Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe--it's basically "The Boys" writ small. Was there some reason it wasn't just a What If? Marvel wanted to push its Alterniverse imprint, their answer to DC's then-popular Elseworlds. What If was classified under the imprint, and in 1995 they also did Ruins and The Last Avengers Story, but those ended up being the only other books ever released under Alterniverse.
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From my understanding of Marvel early days, everyone did everything and credit was thrown around so it is hard to say who gets more credit or not.
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Guy Goodbody posted:The Edison/Tesla phenomenon. Edison financed the building of the first electric chair in order to kill alternating current. I don't really see how the truth is in the middle with that one.
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