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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Someone mentioned this at the end of the last thread, and I think it needs to be reiterated: why the hell is Lone Wolf and Cub only available in those lovely little DH books? Give me an oversized collection.

It looks like Dark Horse is releasing a Gallery Edition with "selections" of the work, but I want the whole thing.

e: also, a couple of you are re-reading all of Thor, right? I'm up to Thor 140 and oh my god this book is so good. It's the best work Jack was doing at the time, by a mile. FF is good, but Thor was made for Kirby's fantastically grotesque style.

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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Open Marriage Night posted:

Thor 133 (first Ego) is really good, but the best is yet to come. Let me know what you think when you go through the 160's.

133 was good yeah, but I love the issue where Jane Foster becomes an immortal for a hot minute, or the whole war between the trolls and Asgard.

And Tales of Asgard is actually the best part of that book, starting at about 114 there isn’t really a bad ToA story, and once they get going on the Ragnarok saga and into the adventures of the warriors three it’s unassailable.

I did not expect to love Thor this much.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Open Marriage Night posted:

Thor is probably my favorite book from 60's Marvel. Spider-Man was great, but you get tired of him whining about his problems after a while. Donald Blake's whiny rear end was holding Thor back for a while too.

I still think Spider-Man is a cut above, mainly because while Pete's whining can grate after a while, he's a genuinely interesting character who has interesting things happen to him. He's the only Marvel secret identity so far that's worth anything. Tony Stark is the next best thing I guess, with all the Senator Byrd stuff that's going on, but it's tough to care that much about the troubles of an incredibly rich genius who also happens to be Iron Man.

I was real disappointed when they cut back to Don Blake in Thor after the war on asgard thing. If they can avoid going down that path that would help sway the scales, but I just don't know if they will.

On the other hand I'm also right where Romita takes over on S-M. I love Ditko but Romita is just so drat good. His work on Daredevil made the very bad book readable, and I'm super looking forward to seeing him work on Spider-man.

I'm also real close to Sterenko on Shield. I've heard great things about that run.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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They, especially Chris, love wacky silver age stories and weird 80s stories like the one where the punisher steals some dude’s jet ski. They’ve also read a ton of comics, but I have a feeling there are people on here who’ve read, it not as many, at least in same ballpark. They’ll get details wrong and probably rank stuff weirdly if it falls outside of their particular wheelhouse.

As long as you know this their list is a ton of fun to listen to.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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I’m with them in identity crisis being the worst story ever. Also like their top of the list. That’s a drat fine Spider-Man story. They got me to read Achewood too. Not the whole thing, but the Great Outdoor Fight, with no other context for the strip, was really great.

They are most wrong about the work of Darwin Cooke, but everyone is allowed to be wrong now and then.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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I bought the Darwyn Cooke Graphic Inc hardcover today with some Christmas gift cards and man, he was just so good. It sucks so much that his career in comics started as late as it did and ended as early as it did.

On the note of the book - it’s less an art book and more just a collection of his otherwise uncollected DC work, along with a ton of covers he did along the way. If you love Cooke I highly recommend picking it up.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Also his Catwoman run with Brubaker. That poo poo was pure gold.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Yeah. They included a lot of them (all?) in Graphic Ink but the gutter loss is pretty bad. I’ve been buying the singles in dolllar bins for the last year, have most of them at this point. I want to get them all bound with some of his other work at some point.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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My favorite part was when she had to have sex with that old creepy guy to get access to his magic power (or knowledge, I can't quite remember).

It wouldn't be an Alan Moore book without that.

not my favorite part. not all that bad, but I do wish all his books didn't have questionable sex or flat out rape

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Madkal posted:

Yea I am going to need a better source than Nancy Grace on this one.

What do you mean? I certainly think that crimonline.com is a reputable journalistic organization and we should take their headlines at face value.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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lasagnacat is loving insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ooCnZviZ8

Uh... NWS

you need this to make it complete: http://shampoofantasy.com/

Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 11, 2018

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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quote:

Hansi is a naïve young peasant girl in Sudetenland, who is mesmerized by the Führer and reading books. She wins a contest, organized by Adolf Hitler, that picks students for special training in National socialist schools in Prague. Her mother is delighted, but warns her in advance to "never forget Jesus Christ". As Hansi arrives in Prague, she is educated into antisemitism, but has doubts since Jesus himself was a Jew. Still, despite people informing her about the famine and horrors of the war she remains enthusiastic about Hitler.

Hansi is also in love with a German U-boat soldier named Rudy, but his parents disapprove of the marriage because she is just a peasant. Since she doesn't want to break him and his parents apart she breaks the relationship off. By now Hansi is so brainwashed that she condemns the Bible as "outdated" and only fit for "cowards and weaklings". As the war progresses Hansi and other people have to evacuate Prague because the Russians are on their way. Despite other people around her realizing that the war is a lost cause, Hansi remains confident in the Fuhrer. She is sent off to a Russian prisoner camp, where she and other girl have to work in slave labor and become victim of rape, except for Hansi who is too skinny to be taken advantage of by the men. Hansi and a girlfriend decide to escape to the American prisoner camps, despite her friend's objections about the USA. They manage to cross the border safely and escape Red Army soldiers trying to shoot refugees. Despite all the misery around her, Hansi still has her faith in Jesus. As Hansi reaches the American prisoner camp, she is amazed how good the American soldiers treat her. As the war is over and Germany lies in rubble Hansi decides to become a teacher.

Then it turns out Rudy is still alive. They become a couple again, but after a year they feel something "is missing from their lives". Hans re-introduces Hansi to the Bible, but she feels unsure whether she can still believe as she suffered through so much misery. Over the years she and Hans raise a family and become good Christians. They travel to the USA, where Hansi wonders whether all the materialism "obscured God's blessings" and made her students "troubled" and "unsure where to give their allegiance". As Hansi takes the flag salute, she is finally convinced about the goodness of the United States, when she hears the phrase "one nation under God", because "it's all right to love what God has blessed". Now Rudy and Hansi decide to promote the Bible to young people and explain the splendor of America's freedom.

:wtf:

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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https://twitter.com/Slicknickshady/status/953213930394054661

e: I had no idea who Todd Nauck is, so went to go look for this art. Dude might not be wrong about that one even if he's insane to want Claremont back.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Yeah I get maybe a dozen and I still don’t read most of them until the arc ends. They’re mostly indies that I just hope make it to trade in the first place.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Eh, I think you came into more disposable income at some point and just ended up sinking a lot of it into comics, right? I totally get it, I've done the same with other forms of entertainment. The serial nature of the form makes it a bit easier to drop regular amounts of money on it than if you just go a bit nuts buying a console and a bunch of games or something.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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Tales of Asgard is like my favorite marvel series I think.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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site posted:

Well i mean the whole reason we're looking at this and lolling is cuz it's clearly some kinda alt-right book right?

I think there's lots of people with feelings about 9/11 that aren't alt-right.

I'd be laughing at it because of that goddawful art.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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site posted:

Is anyone familiar enough with the process of professional comics creation to know what a flatter does? I've seen the word used by colorists on twitter but I have no idea what role they play

http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2016/04/01/cc-flatter/

I thought someone had bought a google smiley but I guess not.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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I just finished the Mangog saga in the Kirby Thor run and goddamn every panel is amazing. I want to post so much of it. If you haven’t read it, you absolutely should. From Sif to Balder to Loki to the Warriors Three every character gets their moment to shine. Sif really was one of the only strong female characters from that period of comics. She gets a couple lovely scenes in that era but when Mangog breaks into the room that holds the Odinsword and Thor tells her to get behind him her retort that no, her place is at his side, is perfect.

The only thing I have trouble with is how much of a big stupid jerk Odin is.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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As I’m going through old marvel books I’m trying to supplement by reading blog posts or articles about that period in comics. I read one about the marvel method on dial b for blog that got me thinking about what constitutes a story.

quote:

New definition: An artist opens a vein and pours out their life's blood onto a blank page, creating the characters and their world, the plot, pacing, and setting -- in short, creating ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. Then Stan Lee adds captions, sound effects and dialogue. That's the REAL definition of the Marvel Method: Stan wrote the words. And he certainly NEVER illustrated a single comic book story, ever, for Marvel or any other company. I can't even recall seeing one of his doodles! He is not an illustrator, he never has been, and he never will be.

By the way, all this is not meant as a slam on Stan Lee. I take nothing away from Stan. I love Stan! But I see Stan primarily as an Art Director. I also think Stan is perhaps the greatest marketing genius of the century, and I have enjoyed his bombastic personality greatly for many years. Comic fans, he's our ambassador to the outside world! But facts are facts.

And so, fearless ones, from now on, the NEW definition of the Marvel Method is this: The artist created everything, and, for stories credited as being written by him, Stan wrote the dialogue.

I repeat: The artist created everything, and Stan wrote the dialogue.

I think it’s interesting to say that an artist created everything when what really resonates for me in a lot of the better stories is the dialogue and characterization that comes through. But it also makes me wonder: are there any examples of people taking those old books and writing different dialogue to tell different stories? I’m curious what could be done with the same art (knowing that the process of pencil > dialogue > ink still lets the artist draw to the dialogue).

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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




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I just finished the first few trades of Black Science and goddamn that is some good poo poo. That is classic sci fi comics for me. I love dimension hopping as a concept, it lets artists just go completely wild. So many killer double page spreads.

Remender isn’t one of my favourite writers but I’m not sure why - I like pretty much everything he’s put out, I just don’t go looking for it.

I’ve read most of his marvel stuff and black science, does he have anything else worth digging into?

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