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Ah, the start of E5 is everything I missed about the series from the first 3 episodes. Just a ton of over-scheming and petty positioning and baseless faith in Ainz' plans within plans. LolSydin posted:Ainz wants nothing more than to return to the days when he played games with his friends. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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The light novel detail that ainz comes from a post-apocalyptic cyberpunk dystopia really accentuates why he is so attached to his guild and everything about it. It was the only good thing in his world. Its also why he is so obsessed with being a 'good boss' to the NPC'S and why he frets over giving them benefits. He read books from the past about being a good manager and had vague fantasies about being able to give time off and other employee benefits he never had. Sylvian Wastes fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Aug 4, 2022 04:57
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Ainz's guild members were basically the closest thing to a family to him, which is why he is so obsessed with the guild.
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Aug 4, 2022 15:49
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That's what's so wild about Overlord is that all of these characters, which in another isekai would be Ainz's harem and rivals and teachers and whatever are just essential his nieces and nephews. Ainz is the real Isekai Ojisan.
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Aug 4, 2022 15:57
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also, his kid is an embarrassing nazi cosplayer.
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Aug 4, 2022 16:05
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:also, his kid is an embarrassing nazi cosplayer. It's wild that Demiurge is over here shoveling orphans into a furnace but then it's just like "A Nazi, absolutely the gently caress not."
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Aug 4, 2022 16:07
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Spanish Matlock posted:That's what's so wild about Overlord is that all of these characters, which in another isekai would be Ainz's harem and rivals and teachers and whatever are just essential his nieces and nephews. They desperately don't want him to one day leave and never return like everyone else, so they obsess over pleasing their uncle.
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Aug 4, 2022 17:33
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It's a metaphor for how awful being immortal would actually be for any sentient creature with empathy.
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M_Gargantua posted:It's a metaphor for how awful being immortal would actually be for any sentient creature with empathy. Not sure where you got that from. Even Evileye doesn't really seem to have a problem with immortality, and she is the character that is most likely to have a problem with it.
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Aug 4, 2022 20:30
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Spanish Matlock posted:It's wild that Demiurge is over here shoveling orphans into a furnace but then it's just like "A Nazi, absolutely the gently caress not." Every time Pandora's Actor opens his mouth it is a living reminder to Ainz of how cringe he used to be. Like imagine if some edgy cold steel rear end OC you wrote in a fanfiction when you were 13 came to life and started hanging out around all your friends and they all know that how they looked and anything they said is because you made them that way.
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Sydin posted:Every time Pandora's Actor opens his mouth it is a living reminder to Ainz of how cringe he used to be. Like imagine if some edgy cold steel rear end OC you wrote in a fanfiction when you were 13 came to life and started hanging out around all your friends and they all know that how they looked and anything they said is because you made them that way. It's all this and then even worse, because there's also always the risk that the other guardians might see how Pandora's Actor looks and acts and go "oh, so that's what Ainz thinks is best" and then begin trying to emulate him.
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Kanos posted:It's all this and then even worse, because there's also always the risk that the other guardians might see how Pandora's Actor looks and acts and go "oh, so that's what Ainz thinks is best" and then begin trying to emulate him. This is basically the plot of one of the seasons of Ple Ple Pleiades and it was great. I thought the scene with Pandora's actor this season was especially good, because it kind of shows that that's also why he acts that way. Like he's perfectly capable of having a normal conversation with his dad and he definitely has a rich inner life.
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So with Episode 8 opening up with Volume 14, it seems like we're entirely skipping Volume 12 and 13? How is CZ supposed to make a friend? I hope they go back and at least do some of that plot. Although I guess you could do 11, 12, 15 and 16 as season 5? Makes sense as you don't leave so much dangling for two volumes.
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M_Gargantua posted:So with Episode 8 opening up with Volume 14, it seems like we're entirely skipping Volume 12 and 13? How is CZ supposed to make a friend? I hope they go back and at least do some of that plot. Although I guess you could do 11, 12, 15 and 16 as season 5? Makes sense as you don't leave so much dangling for two volumes. Volume 12 and 13 will be getting a movie adaptation. We are probably getting volume 15 too since they tend to do 3 episodes per volume.
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^there's a movie coming out next year 
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This quote from today's episode is fantastic: We can only think of countermeasures against an intellectual, but Lord Ains can even understand the minds of the asinine.  I do have a question though. Why does the king insist the noble who stole the food is "innocent" and that giving him up to defuse the situation would be unconscionable? Clearly the Baron is the one at fault and nobody seems to dispute this.
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Swilo posted:This quote from today's episode is fantastic: We can only think of countermeasures against an intellectual, but Lord Ains can even understand the minds of the asinine. I am really hazy on the detail in the LN, but iirc, at this point the king basically just gave up and wanted to become a martyr due to the huge loss at the battle, the loss of his eldest son, and the death of Gazef Stronoff in season 3 . There might be some political stuff involved like the majority of the loss from the battle at Katz plain was from nobles loyal to the king so the king has become politically vulnerable, and if he further abandon another one of his noble to the Sorcerer Kingdom he'll lose the support from the remaining nobles. pedro0930 fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Aug 23, 2022 |
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Swilo posted:This quote from today's episode is fantastic: We can only think of countermeasures against an intellectual, but Lord Ains can even understand the minds of the asinine. It's because nobility could never do anything wrong, they are always pure and innocent unless they do something that directly threatens your own rule.
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I mean I think it's pretty much in line with the theme of the episode that the failure of a subordinate is the failure of the leader.. It's basically the same thing going on with Ains and crew this episode.
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Swilo posted:This quote from today's episode is fantastic: We can only think of countermeasures against an intellectual, but Lord Ains can even understand the minds of the asinine. They do all agree that he did it, but they also think he was magically compelled into doing it because no one could legitimately be that stupid.
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Aug 24, 2022 10:50
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There seems to be major translation issues in this episode. They are mixing up the theocracy with the holy kingdom. This will confuse the hell out of people who haven’t read the LN.
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mightygerm posted:There seems to be major translation issues in this episode. They are mixing up the theocracy with the holy kingdom. This will confuse the hell out of people who haven’t read the LN. Yeah, I noticed a switched pronoun in a sentence too. Wonder if there was an issue this week that caused it to be rushed.
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They probably rushed it because the last episode's English subtitles came out late and people had a fit.
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mightygerm posted:There seems to be major translation issues in this episode. They are mixing up the theocracy with the holy kingdom. This will confuse the hell out of people who haven’t read the LN. I can squint and see how you can translate holy kingdom as theocracy, as the Slane Theocracy has already been introduced whereas the holy kingdom I don't think has even been mentioned. Another side effect of shunting that arc to a movie I figure.
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pedro0930 posted:I am really hazy on the detail in the LN, but iirc, at this point the king basically just gave up and wanted to become a martyr due to the huge loss at the battle, the loss of his eldest son, and the death of Gazef Stronoff in season 3 . There might be some political stuff involved like the majority of the loss from the battle at Katz plain was from nobles loyal to the king so the king has become politically vulnerable, and if he further abandon another one of his noble to the Sorcerer Kingdom he'll lose the support from the remaining nobles. We also got a ranking of governors from the Author how good they would be in that role. The king Ramposa is stated as being mediocre, assuming outside events not happening his reign would be one with no great failures, but no notable successes either. Ainz was at the bottom of said list however as he simply does not know what he's doing.
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Guyver posted:They probably rushed it because the last episode's English subtitles came out late and people had a fit. They just shouldn't make the episode available until the subtitles are ready for the users region. It really doesn't seem that hard.
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FilthyImp posted:Ah, the start of E5 is everything I missed about the series from the first 3 episodes. Just a ton of over-scheming and petty positioning and baseless faith in Ainz' plans within plans. Lol Rewatching earlier seasons, it looks like the guy with the floating swords in the OP belongs to the dragon in S2 episode 1. Apparently he fought with Shaltear when she was brainwashed, but before Ains found her.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Ainz was at the bottom of said list however as he simply does not know what he's doing. Do you happen to have that list? I suspected as much but I find it hilarious that Ainz is confirmed as the worst ruler.
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papasyhotcakes posted:Do you happen to have that list? I suspected as much but I find it hilarious that Ainz is confirmed as the worst ruler. 
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Should note that is a just a fan version of the thing not the actual one. The interview goes into more details.
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the side story volume where suzuki isekai's without nazarick is very interesting. despite still being a scary skeleton man he uses his own name, forms real relationships, travels the world, and grows as a person.
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First thing here that sounds worth reading.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the side story volume where suzuki isekai's without nazarick is very interesting. despite still being a scary skeleton man he uses his own name, forms real relationships, travels the world, and grows as a person. This one is actually off to me. One of the main tragedies of Ainz is that because of the emotional limitations of his new form, he basically clings to nostalgia and memories of his friends and the good times he had with them to give him an emotional anchor and drive to care about things. He's had multiple moments where he's like "I'm about to murder a million people in horrific cold blood and yet I don't feel anything but an interest in how effectively I can kill them" because he's an emotionally dead skeleton. Even one of his most humanizing moments - when he kills Clementine in revenge for her murdering the adventuring party - is entirely built on him remembering the good times. Hell, part of his positive emotional compass is when the Nazarick members who aren't total sadistic monsters like Sebas nudges him in the right direction. Without those anchors to his past when he was a human being with human emotions, it seems weird that he'd be a social butterfly instead of a misanthropic murderer.
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it was one volume with several time skips, any of which was longer than the entire duration of the main story. the change was slow and gradual, but he did get there in the end.
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Kanos posted:This one is actually off to me. One of the main tragedies of Ainz is that because of the emotional limitations of his new form, he basically clings to nostalgia and memories of his friends and the good times he had with them to give him an emotional anchor and drive to care about things. He's had multiple moments where he's like "I'm about to murder a million people in horrific cold blood and yet I don't feel anything but an interest in how effectively I can kill them" because he's an emotionally dead skeleton. Even one of his most humanizing moments - when he kills Clementine in revenge for her murdering the adventuring party - is entirely built on him remembering the good times. Hell, part of his positive emotional compass is when the Nazarick members who aren't total sadistic monsters like Sebas nudges him in the right direction. It's because the Denizens of Nazarick are almost all evil and a bad influence on him who think he can do no wrong.
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Also, every time he gets excited, his passive ability to calm him down kicks in which little by little robs him of his humanity. In addition to Nazarick being a terrible influence, he's also starting to believe his own hype. The fear of looking like a doofus in front of his subordinates keeps him grounded so far, but he's overdue for some hubris-related fuckup.
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The what if story also possibly implies that despite how smart/powerful the denizens of Nazarick are, Ainz being in charge actually helped them achieve their goals much faster. Presumably because he is more cautious and also isn't actively seeking to commit atrocities when there is no gain for him. Although, Nazarick might have also been teleported in much later. Its just a little tease at the end of the story about them causing trouble. Also, the reason Ainz clings so hard to the memories of his guild is because he was an orphan in a dystopian setting. His guild was the closest thing to a real family for him.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The what if story also possibly implies that despite how smart/powerful the denizens of Nazarick are, Ainz being in charge actually helped them achieve their goals much faster. Presumably because he is more cautious and also isn't actively seeking to commit atrocities when there is no gain for him. Without Nazarick, Ainz would likely have a strong core of friendly/just partymates and would be nudged to that side.
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I wonder if they are going to try and pad out the rest of the season with this volume. I don't think there is quite 3 episodes worth of content left.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I wonder if they are going to try and pad out the rest of the season with this volume. I don't think there is quite 3 episodes worth of content left. I haven't read anything in advance except for the wiki on characters I find interesting, so I have don't know much about future events. How long do you suppose it'll take the anime to get to the point where Princess Renner goes mask-off, becomes an imp and makes Climb her personal fuckboi?
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