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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Splicer posted:

2017 was an international game of Paranoia. Or Fiasco.

What will 2018 be like?
Probably more Paranoia. At 11:59 PM 214, the clock rolls over to...12:00 AM 214! Happy New Yearcycle, citizens!

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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Not gonna lie this was an ugly laugh.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

If RPGs are a conversation, then like all conversations being able to read the room and mood before and during the conversation is paramount to all else. You can have all the maps and plans and notes you want but they mean nothing if you cannot hold and sustain the conversation in the first place. Disregard, edit and improvise as necessary, nothing is sacred.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Halloween Jack posted:

Also, it has always been obsessed with going into other people's homes and mass murdering them and taking all their stuff
:nixon:

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Halloween Jack posted:

Instead of a Dr Phil rpg, specifically, you could do an Oprah RPG with a hack of kill puppies for satan. The PCs are all scumbag quack doctors trying to get rich by getting regular guest spots on her show.
flush colons with grapefruit, the game about plausibly healthy doctorly woo advice. Give your patients on TV advice that will work like a placebo without killing them.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

You also have to minimize gore or the consequences of physical violence in order to retain a PG13 to help ensure maximum release size. You can shoot people all you want, they're just not allowed to bleed.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

If your players end up thinking you're an rear end in a top hat, put a pause on the game for a few minutes and have a honest discussion with your players to listen to why they feel this way and address concerns. Work out why it isn't working by talking to them and clear up concerns and misconceptions caused by your ideas as a GM being different from how they're reading it as players. That's all you need to do.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

This is the worst idea and I love that they're doing this and await the apocalypse.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

System Mastery once compared WotC to a rounding error in Hasbro's ledgers and that's still pretty accurate.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Zurui posted:

Okay, this is gonna happen now.
Here's their theme song/Engage Combat/Engage Backstabbing music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8HO6hba9ZE

Warning: gets speaker-ruiningly/deafeningly loud after 27 seconds, please adjust volume accordingly for your own safety.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

theironjef posted:

What's a good example of that last one? I'm guessing Dread, FATE, and the FFG Star Wars games?
It took me a minute to think about this but I'm gonna go with RIFTS.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Alien Rope Burn posted:

I suppose in a podcast you could edit out the miserable amount of back and forth dice-rolling in combat. Or just turn it into a performance art.
I'm listening to RPPR's attempt to play the plot of the movie The Eliminators in RIFTS while I'm driving and they have absolutely turned it into performance art. The first five minutes is them bemoaning the results of random height/weight/motivation/views on the Coalition/trust of nonhuman races tables which have resulted in a short fat Juicer ninja and a scientist who keeps installing cybernetic parts in/defiling corpses to make undead machines "for knowledge!" and "because I'm an all-around good person!".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminators_(1986_film)

Vox Valentine fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Apr 8, 2018

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Monte must've had a super bad and dumb spin on his Wheel of Original Tabletop Ideas to actually decide "you know what my fundamentally d20 nightmare surrealist horror game needs? METAPLOT! Just like the good ol' days".

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Mediocrity and boredom is indeed a greater sin than being absolute poo poo or being wildly incompetent. You can still dissect and articulate why things don't work in the latter cases. The former is just "it exists and it is functional" there's nothing fun or interesting to it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Bedlamdan posted:

Some people find humor with how dysfunctional the Imperium is. Some people find the individuals living within it to at least be more sympathetic than the faction that is basically four different kinds of Satan, one of whom will kill you quickly, one of whom will kill you slowly, one of whom screws with your head and one of whom simply screws you to death.

It’s less that people don’t understand the Imperium is a bad thing, and more that people can find it an interesting or funny thing despite also being a bad thing, is what you’re missing here. Like intellectually I understand Darth Vader is a self loathing quadriplegic who is his own worst enemy, but that doesn’t stop me from thinking the airlock scene in Rogue One was probably the best thing Star Wars ever did.

I’m sorry to say that sometimes bad people still make for good characters, and quite a few people find the Empire in Star Wars cool without also buying into National Socialism.
Okay.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Martin Snazz posted:

Thank you.

In all seriousness, though, yelping about a fiction anthology that they apparently pulled from access and scrubbed from publication a while back seems a bit ... extreme. I mean, I get it. We all have to have something to be outraged by, but what do you think they should have done instead? Doubled down? Let Ericsson ramp up his obnoxious Uber-Edge Lord schtick? Offered penance, mea culpas and a tray of cookies to the poor bastards that actually wait around for a fiction anthology about their favorite Elf Game?

Because honestly, that's Woody Allen poo poo right there: "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." "Yeah, I know; and such small portions." It's essentially fanfic centered on a game that was hot and edgy 25+ years ago, and you're complaining because some douchebags are trying to keep it edgy. Man, I'd hate to see what you think of the latest Dragonlance collection or R.A. Salvatore series. If you're buying licensed White Wolf V:TM fiction, there's a bigger problem than the guys writing or editing the damned thing.


The term "reprint" seems to mean different things to different people. I'd be curious to know how long that e-book was available before it was scrubbed.


I'm guessing that, in your home games, vampires are only allowed to feed on narrowly prescribed sorts of victims, such as neoliberal republicans and people who disagree with you on internet forums.

Honestly, this leaves me at a bit of a loss. If there isn't an element of horror in your edgy, gothpunk games, what exactly is going on? Is it Model UN with fangs? An extended coffee shop slam poetry night, only we broadly talk about how we totally spiked the coffee with blood from "bad" people? Season One of Arrow, only the guy in the hood has three dots in Auspex?

Vampire (and White Wolf, in general) has always been trashy in its dark and edgy nature. Back cover of the Tzimisce, anyone? Entire chapters on world details like "walking the chicken strip" and similar? These ringing any bells? It just happened that people could ignore the lore whenever they were running it.

Puffing up with outrage now, when the company looks to be doing the same damned thing all over again... what game did you think you were talking about?


Yeah, I hadn't realized that the game needed a purity test that went that deep. I do appreciate the "yeah, Hite's a dick in real life, so it doesn't matter if he puts out decent games" angle, though.

Snark aside, I didn't know that Zak S had anything to do with the game at this point. He's a reprehensible creature, but I would be surprised if (like the scrubbed fiction anthology) if they were willing to court that sort of shitstorm.


That's ... phenomenal. And not really unexpected for a White Wolf fiction anthology.

It honestly makes you wonder if Tim Kring or Joss Whedon were aware of his hilariously bad "participatory art and entertainment" when they were working with him.


Nah, apparently I'm not nearly "bombastic" enough. Clearly, I need to add more "concentrated spunk in my groins-blood" to my posts.
Okay.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Martin Snazz posted:

Or it could be that I'm not deep enough into the groupthink, so I have to be properly informed to know my place.

Opinions are terrible things, when they're not properly aligned.
Okay.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Martin Snazz posted:

That's cool. Saves me having to bother with the rest of your reply.


Oh. You're back.

Should I go back and talk about your previous points?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYjqm9HIGtQ

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Mr. Maltose posted:

That's nice, Zak.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Mods change my name to "The Sensual Hollow Lie".

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Trying to parse the homebrew system we're using this weekend and every aspect of it fills me with equal parts dread and antipathy. It covers so very few things and it covers those things in such excruciating detail.

ten ability scores
I wish to know more.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

My Lovely Horse posted:

I keep trying to summarize the rules but I always end up reproducing them in total, and the most concise description I can come up with is that it's exactly what you'd expect a D&D 3.5 clone written by a theoretical physicist to be like.
...this is either the best thing ever made or a beautiful airburst explosion.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I wish I were good enough at that I could whip y'all into half as big a frenzy as this guy. zak s is good. narrative games suck. I hate hte bands you like. why isn't this working??
https://youtu.be/ibEdgQJEdTA

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Oh thank god I now know when A Castle Adventure That Is Legally Distinct From Other Properties That Involve Bloodlines And Draculas are coming out.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

oriongates posted:

So, does this sound like a Peanut Butter +Chocolate sort of combo, or more of a Avacado + Chocolate kind of combo?
In all honesty it could be a worthwhile idea but the notion of combining them makes me recoil in horror at the kind of mechanics you'd need to sustain it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Antivehicular posted:

Also, can you even imagine how lovely life for the average person would be in Dark Sunxalted? Holy balls.
Everyone is different. No two people are not on fire. Awwwww.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Wrestlepig posted:

The best intro game I’ve seen is Call of Cthulhu. It’s simple to grasp the resolution, it doesn’t take long to set up a character, it’s good for one-shots, most of it can be understood without many gamey terms, players probably get the genre and there’s lots of modules and support.
I'm gonna echo this sentiment but also add Delta Green New Edition to the mix. I started running weekly one shots and stuff for some employees outside of work because I wanted to nudge them away from using 5e for everything (this was honestly motivated by hearing them talk about their Avatar The Last Airbender 5e game series using homebrew rules they found online and wanting to support new players entering the hobby by saying anything that wasn't sad noises or a scream). Did a little Dungeon World to loosen them up a bit and get them into the improv spirit for a few sessions but I kinda wanted to run DG and it turned out that A: it was really easy to get them on board with the pitch (just downplay/omit the Cthulhu stuff and focus on being agents of an illegal government conspiracy doing illegal poo poo) and B: they immediately asked to play another one-shot when it was done because they had a blast and it was a bit easier for them to suss out what they could do because the skill lists are a bit more suggestive for situational options than DW's moves.

Also one of them told me that because she was gay she "wanted to roll a lot of dice and not worry about math" and was absolutely down with the d100 percentile system as a result.

Vox Valentine fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jun 27, 2018

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Pollyanna posted:

I'd actually like to know something myself:

- What's your longest-running campaign?
- What system was it in?
- Was it online or in-person?
- What year did it begin?
- How long did it run?
A homebrew d6 system that borrowed heavily from Japanese tabletop (Maid, etc) because I started with random Maid games. It was set on an offshore city attached to the mainland by a highway because I lived near Atlantic City in like 2010 and I hated Atlantic City. The plot was that cordyceps fungus had taken root on the city and was quarantined by the mainland and the players were the survivors who had managed to survive the winter in the sewers and were running for the quarantine border in the thawing spring. It was Fall 2010-Spring 2011 and it was literally every night on AIM. It was also mostly just like "I will use whatever ideas come to mind for the plot" and ended with all of the PCs successfully escaping.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Paranoia XP does it too.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

remusclaw posted:

Is that why the Old school D&D thread got the way it is lately?
OSR is always bad.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Powerup Comics best gaming comic.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

SunAndSpring posted:

Did any of you fuckin nerds buy Warhammer Fantasy RP 4e and if so how are you finding it so far? I'm reading the preview pdf and it's super rushed, I hope they can get their poo poo together because while I think the rules are a general improvement on 2e, there's a lot of weird poo poo that I don't know is going to be fixed or not before final release
I really hope they explain character advancement in the creation process in clearer and more defined terms.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Does anyone have any impressions on Zweihander? The exposure it’s gotten after the Ennis wins has me intrigued.

Is it basically setting agnostic WFRPG?
Yeah just crammed into almost 700 pages of mechanics.

And then he made a Legally Not 40k conversion guide that was just 32 pages and hilariously poorly considered because it's more or less the occupation of Jerusalem in the Crusades but in space and you're playing Christian Templars who have relocated all of mankind to Jerusalem to make a final stand.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Dark Astral Ad Blurb posted:

In the grim future of Dark Astral, there is only war.

The solar system is spread apart into warring fiefdoms, technology has gone by the wayside and become an extreme luxury, education is fleeting and knowledge is reserved for the powerful – meaning science and medicine lag behind. Religion and superstition reign. This is a campaign setting that’s deeply entrenched in superstition and subverted ideals, despite the staggering height of technology.

Dark Astral is the Renaissance era transplanted into the theater of the Vault of Night: foolhardy Shadowbrokers (Hostile V's note: Rogue Traders), corrupted Klergists (HV: Techpriests), insane Psykonauts (HV: hazard a guess), hedonistic Technokrats (HV: Imperial scribes and magistrates), sanguine Manhunters (HV: Bounty Hunters/Scum) and ravaged Astrotemplars (HV: theoretically Space Marines but really just like Imperial Guardsmen and you're told they're really cool superhumans) all have their niche, even if their sailing ships are replaced by space arks and bows with laser rifles. In Dark Astral, don’t use traditional science fiction terms: aliens are called The Other, gravity is called Ætherea, planets are called Dominions, spaceships are called Arks, stars are called Mirrors and space itself is called the Vault of Night. In the uncharted territories in the Vault of Night, there are not galaxies, but Wytch-spirals. Instead of black holes, there are the starless wells called Dark Astral.

Dark Astral Intro Text posted:

It is the far future, but in a not-so-distant past of the one we recognize as the Renaissance. Following the desecration of the garden world of Eden, the people fled in a massive diaspora through the Vault of Night, under the auspices of an immortal Technokrat named Sol Invictus. In the grim darkness, a new Jerusalem was erected, a pinnacle of humanity’s greatness. As time progressed, the memory of Eden was lost to a new dawn, regarded barely as a faint echo in Sol Invictus’ convocations. As humanity’s faith and culture spread to new dominion worlds, so did the threats of an unknown universe unfold.

An unforeseen enemy emerged from the vastness of the Dark Astral - an uncharted sector in the Vault of Night. Civilization was threatened by what was simply called “The Other”. Not even the godhead could protect the people from the horrors to come. Unable to cope with the wrath of The Other’s legions, survivors of New Jerusalem congregated in the Last Cathedral, pleading to a dying Sol Invictus for answers. The Astrotemplars of the godhead interpreted the grim omens. Humanity was tasked with a holy quest, commanded to make pilgrimage back to Eden. Gathering the best and brightest, a massive ark known as Outremer (pronounced Oh-trey-mere) was built in the few short years to follow. Housing nearly ten million souls and two of every beast, it raised anchor, departing New Jerusalem shortly before it was destroyed by The Other’s infernal weaponry. It took nearly three generations for the ark’s survivors to find the path back to Eden. But it was not the Eden spoken of in the sermons.

An aurora of shimmering pink light surrounded Eden, an emerald jewel encircled by a haze of dark Magick. Passing through the whorl of chaos, Outremer nearly disintegrated as it hurdled towards Eden. Nearly broken, remnants of the ark and a mere fraction of humanity survived the impact. They had escaped The Other, yes but the Hospitaliers’ prayers to Sol Invictus were left unanswered following their arrival. Had they ventured too far beyond? Was this the Eden prophesied of? Left with no choice, the Outremer followed protocols given to them by the godhead. Eden became their new home.

Now, nearly three generations later, the massive city known as Outremer stands as a bastion against the Hinterlands. Beset on all sides by Mutants, the survivors try to eek out a desperate existence, devoid of Sol Invictus’s divine voice. The ruler of Outremer, the Elector-Prelate, hides behind his guard of Astrotemplars. His supplicant Hospitalier Klergists send countless adventurers on ‘Crusades’ into the surrounding wilderness for the glory of Outremer. This world is not safe and it is not kind, but it is the only one they know.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

That Old Tree posted:

Oh my god just gently caress this guy.


:wtc:
https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLJGEP1x5ns3Rq0MYy1I

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

And again it never stops being funny to me that Zweihander is a 700 page book but the Dark Astral conversion chapbook is 32 pages long.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Kai Tave posted:

How is it fuckin 700 pages? Isn't it a Warhammer Fantasy 1E retroclone? How big was the actual game it's "homaging?"
Well yeah it takes from 1e but then it goes into 2e and also 3e I think. 1e is a little under 400 pages but you know what it doesn't have? Mechanics for vampires and Not Skaven and playing as Ogre PCs. So those have to be in Zweihander, clearly. So like what does Zweihander include? All...of it. All of it. All of it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Groverhaus but with load-bearing thousand-page hardback books.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Brushing up on my Cinematic Unisystem and I like the mechanics presented in Army of Darkness the RPG but god the writing hasn't aged great in 13 years.

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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

For those of you who haven't read the free stuff, here's what you're missing and why you should stay the gently caress away.

Boiled down: "Making your character consists of filling in the blanks in this following sentence: "I am a BLANK BLANK of the Order of BLANK who BLANK."": pretty okay, in line with the rest of Cook's latest design fetishes but understandable.

Understandable quick reference summary: "Making your character consists of filling in the variables in the following sentence: "I am a FOUNDATION HEART of the Order of ORDER who FORTEs". You have set entry choices for everything but Forte, where each entry choice has a mechanical meaning except for your Forte which is a unique styling that encapsulates the way you do magic.": very White Wolf but the limited choices do help provide a solid framework of what a character should more or less fall into and provides solid mechanical information with room for creativity. Pretty good. Kinda reminds me of Mage.

Actual presentation: the technical info above except it's 25% of a handful of pages that explain "how the Testament of Suns, the six-fingered prop hand, is the means by which all Ordered Vislae can weave their manipulations of the world as empowered by the energies of Visla the Invisible Sun. Each finger correlates to a different part of a Vislae's spiritual makeup: the Tor, Da, Tu, Ka, La and Ver or the Order, Heart, Forte, Soul, Foundation and Arc. A Vislae is a LA DA of the Order of TOR who TU and the Ver is the means by which the Vislae will grow and evolve into something more powerful than any Nons from The Grey will ever recognize.

Of course, one could eschew the trappings of the Orders of Vance, Makers, Weavers or Goetics. Such Vislae are known as Apostates, swearing allegience to no order. In lieu of the Testament of Suns, their tool is the Vertula Kada, a double-ended five-segmented anal toy made out of glass or stone or crystal or worked metal. These Apostates have a completely separate creation means! Which is to say you create them normally except their Order is Apostate!

This may be disorienting to some of your Vislae at the table. This is understandable. In time they will comprehend the ways of the City of Glistening but for now theirs is a game of self discovery and understanding their true selves and the true power over Actuality they wield.": go gently caress yourself.

It's a 55 page document that takes snippets from all four books and from what I saw didn't actually have any explanation on how to play the game, just a basic look at the world, the magic and bragging about unique tarot cards with multiple different meanings maaaaaaaan.

also yes the vertula kada really is just an anal play toy. https://i.imgur.com/oIfBFfd.png

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