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i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Technet and Stack are basically the same. Try everything anyone suggested at any point in the thread and there is a nonzero chance it will work.

Spiceworks is the home of absolutely nonsense garbage from SMB know nothings who are faking their way through being employed on the absolute saddest edge of the industry.

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i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
You don’t even have to fully nationalize to make it work. Just subsidize the heck out of internet access and make sure the strings attached are consumer friendly. It’s baffling there isn’t a bigger push to do that at a minimum, but American politics avoids making things public goods for all the reasons people posted above plus a really ill informed electorate. Privatization of vital infrastructure and services is bad in most cases, but a lot of people will call nationalizing them socialism while ignoring they’re a really basic part of our social contract.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Motronic posted:

Are you just posting in bad faith here? Nobody asked you to advocate. Nobody said they were happy with the situation. The conversation was around your uninformed reasoning for how it ended up the way it is.

You have some weirdly aggressive energy about this

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
I think confusing a nuanced understanding of how things are with peoples ideas for how things could be better and then also telling a bunch of extremely knowledgeable people they don’t know anything about a pretty easily understood topic they interact with constantly is weirdly aggressive yes

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Motronic posted:

I'm not telling this to extremely knowledgeable people. It's you and weatherman.


Motronic posted:

The US government has been largely about privatization for better or for worse (spoiler: it's worse). There is no way to solve "cheap fiber everywhere" without subsidies or dropping the whole privatization thing because it's not commercially viable based on the geography, size and population density of this country.


i am a moron posted:

You don’t even have to fully nationalize to make it work. Just subsidize the heck out of internet access and make sure the strings attached are consumer friendly.

Oh so wait would subsidies work or are we both not knowledgeable about the subject

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
He presented a super dumb appeal to his own authority to dismiss points people aren’t really making and basically asked someone to not talk about the subject because no one asked them. Come on now.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Zereth posted:

Based on past actions the telecoms would take the subsidies and then just not do it.

Agreed - there would need to be some kind of framework and enforceability along with any public/private joint ventures. So whatever form the hypothetical solution would take wouldn’t be something that’s been done or exists in the US to my knowledge

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

RFC2324 posted:

I've been in an interview before where I was told be being there was a formality because they were doing an internal hire, and policy required they do external interviews first.

At least they gave me a nice snack for my time

Name and shame these garbage idiots

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

RFC2324 posted:

It was about 7 years ago, so don't remember, but they were a government contractor, which was why they had the external interview requirement.

It's really not an uncommon practice tho, any company that has a similar policy is going to do similar things. Sometimes that helpdesk guy deserves to be promoted to sysadmin but you can't legally just do it.

Yea it’s common, but there are ways to go about it that don’t involve wasting peoples time like that. I assumed it was a big company cause that’s usually where I’ve seen it

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
I once interviewed a guy who wore a trench coat in when it was 75 degrees out and ranted about the CIA spying on him because Obama had it out for him. Had the biggest suit on I’ve ever seen too. Not sure I’d even blink at a fedora now.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

The Iron Rose posted:

this is a great question that I will be stealing in... two hours or so


What are some of y'all's favourite sysadmin generalist questions to ask? I really like "explain how the internet works". Gives them an opportunity to go up and down the OSI model, or dip in and out of areas where they're most comfortable.

In the same vein, I ask them how applications work. Explain API's to me. Tell me in your words the value prop of cloud platforms. Explain how the internet works is a good one.

The best interviews turn into a back-and-forth on these topics. You can get a feel for someone's attitude towards ambiguity in the way they either just dive in or seek to pare down the topic. The best of the best are where the interviewee teaches me something I didn't know. Honestly you can weed people who don't know what they're talking about out fast with the generalized questions. I prioritize people who are smart and understand IT conceptually over people who have specific knowledge though, not sure everyone is looking for that necessarily.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

sfwarlock posted:

My favorite interview question is: you're sitting at your desk, catching up on all the email that you should have read at some point, when one of the staff runs in and tells you that the internet is down. What do you do first?

Put eight hours down on my time card and take off, that's what I call a win/win baby.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

ConfusedUs posted:

Wonder why I have internet--which I obviously do because I'm checking email--and they don't. Load a webpage to be sure. Ask my buddy next to me if he does. If we've got internet, it's not a site outage, it's just this guy. Then arrange for a ticket to be opened for the guy who ran in (give him phone number if that's a thing, open it manually for him if it doesn't).

:vince:

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Bob Morales posted:

That's some nerdy poo poo.

I said, posting in a dead gay comedy forum in a thread about working in IT when I, too, work in IT.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Azure skills are insanely hot right now

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
If you’re mega huge there is a good chance you’re multi cloud already. And if you’re big enough it’s easy to get leverage on pricing between the cloud providers right now, which means you can be incentivized to stay rather than move cause it’s easier that way.

I was talking to a company called Morpheus at a DevOps conference a few years ago and they were/are making a product that would allow for ‘seamlessly’ moving workloads around. But there was also a TON of onboarding they needed to do to get it to work. The idea was to use their product instead of interacting directly with cloud providers so you could easily move workloads based on price/availability/etc.. Seems interesting and like a good idea in the abstract but I could see what MS/Amazon/Google might not want that to be happening easily. It’s taking the service aspect of the cloud platforms and commodifying the entire idea even further.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Ah gently caress your post just reminded me I killed a Cisco Cloud Center deployment like 15 months ago and now I’m mad about it all over again

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

BaseballPCHiker posted:

My team at least was understanding. It was the outside team that shot me down. The guy was nice enough later to link to some documentation I missed, which was a nice gesture.

It just sucks that you get everyone thinking we have some potentially big issue only to be flat out wrong.

Oh well, learn and move on I guess. The saving grace is that our AWS security program is really just getting off the ground so I can make mistakes now I guess.

This happens to me, like, every single day. I've learned to qualify all my thoughts/opinions and say things that make it clear I will solicit any viewpoint that runs counter to my own. And if I'm wrong, I just learned something!

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

MJP posted:

Good to know that there's hope for an Azure engineer who isn't the King of Koders and lives/breathes/sleeps ARM templates. If nothing else I feel energized to actually buckle down and find some Udemy stuff to learn more automation things.

Once you get past job postings, I'd say very few organizations are actually looking for this. I had a recruiter tell me the other day I need to be a "coding" expert, I talked to the team and they use IAC and PowerShell. Some code.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Man, if being an annoying fuckwit was fireable I'm assuming 50% of the people I interact with would be unemployable and everyone posting here would be terminally posting in an unemployment thread somewhere.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

I could kiss you on the mouth for this

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
I think it depends on workloads and stuff. I’m tolerant of it when I’m not busy, if I’m busy I’m ignoring that poo poo since opening with ‘hi’ means it can’t be that important.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

RFC2324 posted:

Sounds like tickets that need to be escalated.

To your boss.

Maybe copy/paste into a new ticket without their name on it and ask for help

Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

MJP posted:

Plus a 2.8% raise, and let's be honest, we all know raises don't happen without promotions or getting new jobs in different companies, so that ain't bad to help keep pace with inflation.

This really isn’t true, it takes some YOLO’ing but I’ve been negotiating raises and bonuses for years now. You can teach an organization not to offer you weak poo poo.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
It’s not taboo to admit that scripting sometimes takes longer than solving the issue by hand - you become a dipshit when you have to do that thing more than once or on tons of machines and rely on your mouse instead of scripting it. I’d argue PowerShell is no more code than any IAC or YAML is, I certainly can’t develop my way out of a paper bag but those things are all just performing actions for me using the three-tiers-of-abstraction-away-from-real-code instructions I can feed various systems to make my life easier. No idea if this will help but when I was sysadminning Windows servers I stopped using the GUI entirely unless a service forced it on me. Helped me understand I was just replacing mouse clicks with commands in PS. Also ARM is for loving assholes imo and Bicep is a sick joke.

I don’t know how much longer people will be hiring folks who can’t speak to PS/automation of some kind. But I do know 90% of the people who claim they know PS/automation either know Jack poo poo about it or rarely use it for anything so I wouldn’t worry too much just make sure you keep putting it on a resume.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

RFC2324 posted:

You misunderstood the question.

They are if there is a point you can just say 'gently caress it, I'm good at what I do, stop making me learn anything else'

Which is valid. As I get older I have lost that love of learning that constantly drove me when I was in my 20s and 30s, and wish I could just stop being defined by my profession and could take a year to just do something else. Clock in, do my thing, clock out and go paint til bedtime every day or something to enrich me as a person, instead of learning poo poo so I can enrich someone else's bank account

I don’t think I did. I’m saying use it when you should and slap that poo poo on a resume and move on. Learn it or don’t, it doesn’t matter just make sure you tell people you did and you care about it

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
PowerShell more like PowerSmell amirite? It’s actually amazing for Windows, and if your beef is with Windows then yes PS sucks because so does Windows. If you work in Windows all the time and you think it’s no good I have some bad news for you.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

MJP posted:

Our former Azure architect put together scripts that take ARM templates, look for parts of them, and use 'em to create entire stacks in Azure.

I dunno about this why not use TF modules and avoid the JSON? Why would you need a script for ARM?

Edited so I don’t sound like such an angry person

i am a moron fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Mar 3, 2021

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Zorak of Michigan posted:

Windows ...RAID5

He’s probably at least a jalapeño on Spiceworks tho

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
They probably don’t even know they have OWA running

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

RFC2324 posted:

I once heard a story about an IT org that discovered OWA was running when a C-level called bitching it was down

All it takes is an unlabeled NAT and some brain drain to the right org. I’ve seen it more than once, and I’ve seen some permutation of ‘let’s shut OWA off no one uses it’ only to get 5% of the company screaming bloody murder over it more times than I can count

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
You’d think that Azure AD auth in front would stop it

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

angry armadillo posted:

An out of hours ticket came in....we were testing a network migration this week so split an existing LAN into 2 smaller LANs


I had a conversation with one of my techs and said have you tested all the areas and he said nah it'll be fine and to be fair I said youre probably right, the change is so minor so let's mark the day in the diary when we know it gets used so we know by then no news is good news and we can put it to bed.

That day is today- I totally forgot its a holiday and just got a call out for the exact issue so I'm straight on to my tech "do you want OT to go in and look at this, hint hint" he knows full well this is his mistake so assumed he would be like "fair enough ill sort my mess"

He initially said no(!) but before I could even guilt trip him into fixing it, I heard his wife saying its fine you can go

Haha his wife is now a legend

So as a manager you:

- didn’t ensure any sort of testing happened
- didn’t look at the schedule to see when the change was going in
- were surprised someone said I’m not doing that poo poo on a holiday (extremely defensible)
- planned on guilt tripping someone into fixing something after you didn’t bother doing the few things your position requires from you here

:waycool:

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
I debated whether my reading was too harsh. But no - if you’re a manager at a baseline you should be managing the schedule appropriately and making sure you’re doing your best to account for contingencies. Trying to shift the blame onto the employee for shrugging off testing doesn’t fly, your job is to account for that kind of thing and do your best to mitigate the risk. And then to loving act like that to your report on a day off, god drat.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
I don’t KNOW what the problem is, but it’s DEFINITELY NOT my poo poo code so give this motherfucker MORE HORSEPOWER or I’ll tell my BOSS you’re an unhelpful piece of poo poo

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Thanks Ants posted:

I've just been handed the requirements for a new cloud service that a law firm are taking on, and it's asking questions about the subnets in use locally, and the public IP of the device that will be doing the VPN tunnel.

It’s technically on someone else’s servers, that’s cloud right? Oh btw here’s the fat client install for our client server app


GreenNight posted:

"Our PLC devices do not support DHCP reservations. We need 40 static IP's, thanks".

FU

FU indeed

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

angry armadillo posted:

I was being unnecessarily hyperbolic and dickish by implying I would guilt trip when really I was just venting/frustrated that my own decision to excuse testing was the fault. I should be less of a dick

I hadn't seen this up until now and I can confirm when I saw the tech yesterday morning the first thing I said was I totally messed up and thought we were on site when that happened and i also messed up by saying not doing testing is an ok choice and of course, thanks for coming in, make sure you email so and so and get my that OT sheet to sign!

sorry for jumping back a couple of pages but i felt i ought to pay a bit of my penance here.

I also debated making a dickish post about it, obviously reading intent is tough and I went the wrong way there. My bad

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Internet Explorer posted:

I have no doubt that I am the least cool person on the internet. I am like a black hole of cool, sucking it out of the atmosphere and crushing it under the weight of my uncoolness. Not even a joke.

Username/post synergy

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
My username rules for a variety of reasons, unlike internet explorer :c00lbert:

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i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Raerlynn posted:


That interaction was with a dba with an intermittent attitude problem.

You can just say dba

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