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Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


To be fair Satan didn't win, that's sort of his realisation right at the end. He like everyone else lost, he's alone, his love is dead his demons are gone and then God makes him do it all again. Satan has lost at the end, because he couldn't understand compassion. Now he does, and so in a future loop Ryo/Satan and Akira can maybe win together, instead of lose apart.

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Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Oxxidation posted:

And then the whole thing is reset by God, who at best is totally divorced from the notions of love and hate shown by humanity and at worst is using the entire planet as an eternally recurring punishment chamber for Satan out of sheer vindictiveness.

The presentation of Devilman's themes was poor enough so that I don't really care whether people ultimately see it as hopeful or not, but its attempts at optimism are weak at best.

Except it's not a true reset, there are now 2 moons above Earth, which suggests for all that it's a looping punishment things will change. Also Devilman is not Optimistic, if anything it's somewhat pessimistic, what it is is a) hopeful, and b) against it's own narcissistic state. The people who let themselves become monsters are admonished by the text constantly, Satan himself realises his own philosophy is kind of hosed up at the end. That's the point, the story may not have a happy ending and everyone may die, but those who became monsters were admonished, and those who didn't end up mourned by those who survived.

It's not stating things will be okay, it is stating that you can either make things better or worse, and basically says making things worse makes you as much a monster as any demon.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


It's also entirely possible given the nature of Satan and the Moons that this is the first go around for this version, and that Satan will remember this defeat subconsciously and thus the next go around will have a less stupid plan.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


I think Sabbath is being headed by Demons to make more Demons, personally, so they just keep anything but the superhot party aspect quiet.

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