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I’m so glad I stuck with the show after feeling kinda iffy about not being sure what it was trying to do initially. I really applaud Yuasa in making an adaptation that’s at the same time faithful, fresh and a kind of a highly entertaining and self-indulgent auteur fanwork. It’s obvious he must be highly into the source material. I should totally check out the original manga
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Most all of Go Nagai's works are sort of cornerstones for the entire medium of Anime. It was the best part realizing that! Like holy poo poo a vast majority of Japanese media I like is built on the legacy of this series because the creators of those pieces of media likely read Nagai as kids
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tl note: debiru means akuma
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This isn’t really a concept that’s exclusive to ”highly japanese” works. Any work that fails to explain essential information based on the assumption you already know it based on the context of the work for example within the genre it belongs to is pretty flawed. It could be a point if you were talking about something within japanese culture as a larger concept not being explained, like historical facts anyone in japan could be assumed to know, if the work is primarily aimed for an audience within its country of production, but if you’re talking about tropes existing in this niche anime sphere the ”japaneseness” doesn’t excuse it. It’d just be bad fanfic level writing that can only sustain itself within a pre-existing media consuming community. I honestly think the works that aim to subvert these insular tropes are partially popular in the west because they open up these conventions of writing within an insular context by turning for example character types that are accepted at face value because the audience is familiar with them to characters that follow these types for well established reasons.
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Jan 24, 2018 08:39
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Maybe that’s even a part why older, formative works in japanese media being readapted for modern audiences tend to gain so much traction in the west. While containing even older influence they’re less esoteric in their narrative content because they’re from so far back in the stack of the medium building upon itself. I think it’s really cool and I’d love to see a new push in raising awareness for the roots of the medium
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Jan 24, 2018 09:51
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He's clearly a rowdy yanki
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Jan 24, 2018 14:49
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Touching Devilman's titty like that is a bit intimate. Do you reckon Mazinger is a big ol gay too
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Jan 24, 2018 18:26
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Apocalypse of Devilman sucks specifically because Devilman has weird chitin pants instead of hair pants
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Jan 24, 2018 21:56
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afaik Crybaby is the first adaptation that actually goes from the beginning to the end
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Jan 24, 2018 22:17
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Most Devilman spinoffs seem very dodgy/creepy and maybe a really good director could salvage them, but I feel like doing something like Violence Jack would be a safer bet
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Jan 26, 2018 08:22
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It's hilarious to me that out of all the adaptations Go Nagai World is the one with the most penis on screen
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Jan 26, 2018 14:57
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To be fair that villain trope is pretty universal and kinda lovely. Even if I approve of our local androgyne Satan, which I can justify in my mind as just esotericism regarding angels
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Jan 27, 2018 17:59
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Aurora posted:miko is a lesbian
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Jan 28, 2018 07:13
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Also to weigh in on weird trans reading posting, what actually resonated to me the most in Devilman was the narrative undercurrent of how the main characters’ own bodies are a root of so much mental anguish and eventually ostracization.
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Jan 28, 2018 07:17
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Let Satan have their penis 2018
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Jan 28, 2018 07:27
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Nina posted:Also to weigh in on weird trans reading posting, what actually resonated to me the most in Devilman was the narrative undercurrent of how the main characters’ own bodies are a root of so much mental anguish and eventually ostracization. Actually let’s build one this. The entire plot starts off as characters trying to adjust their selves in this social dynamic where they’re stuck between the contexts of two norms as a human and a demon, eventually Akira and Miko embrace this and develop strong identities based on their non-conforming existences (while Koda just kinda gives in to a society’s demands to avoid pain) and ultimately their enemies become those who insist they’re one or the other and commit violence upon them solely based on who they are. The good guys are the ones who accept ”if you say you’re a devilman of course you’re a devilman.” See and I didn’t even mention big tits once.
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Jan 28, 2018 07:33
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Miko’s a big ol goddamn gay
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Jan 28, 2018 07:48
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Bisexuals are gay
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Jan 28, 2018 08:04
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The only heterosexual character is the turtle demon from Go Nagai WorldPener Kropoopkin posted:Apparently Miko is a lesbian because lesbians can't be trans, if the last several pages are anything to go on. Lesbians can be trans for sure. But they are women. Have some consistency with bad opinions at least
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Jan 28, 2018 08:21
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”Miko is a man so she’s not gay” was a hilarious argument anyway since that would just make all her relations with men gay instead. Miko is a woman btw, and a lesbian
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Jan 28, 2018 08:26
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The show is super uneven but the back half is great, I appreciate the artistry that went into even the front half and it’s carried by the interesting, unusual characters. So overall I ended up somewhere in the range of ”yep I dig this” I feel like ending well and having strong characters can absolutely save a story that loses its thread sometimes
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tithin posted:Can some one confirm that Miko is a trans lesbian demon for me? It’s cool I can confirm it. Yuasa Devilman is my uncle Alan_Shore posted:I guess I'm just confused. Why not say Miko is bi? If she's a lesbian she's also straight, so isn't bi OK? Because it’s a convenient umbrella term and a much stronger identifier than saying ”she’s bi”. Hell as a gay trans woman who’s bisexual I just like to use it because it’s more comfortable to say ”I’m gay” due to how the word evokes a sense of community and sense of belonging to this queer social context that ”I’m bi” doesn’t incite
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Jan 28, 2018 08:54
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Still really sad we never got like a fight scene with penises just flopping about as the characters zoom around. This would’ve been the right series for that
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Jan 28, 2018 09:12
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That made me remember there are three identical looking characters in the show and I can’t figure out what the idea behind that was at all. I didn’t even realize Kukun died until someone told me hey these are totally unrelated people. How sad
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Jan 28, 2018 11:06
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I was so convinced Koda was just demon Kukun for way too long
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Jan 28, 2018 11:19
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I'll save your rear end this one time and post the artist twitter at least https://twitter.com/leglegleng
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Jan 28, 2018 15:44
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Space Flower posted:you can find the source if you hit 'view image' because the pixiv id is in it, and if you use image search engines like iqdb/saucenao you'll also arrive there  Learning the mysterious pixiv glyphs will make your anime fanart finding life much easier
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Jan 28, 2018 15:56
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Ibram Gaunt posted:All of my favorite Devilmen come over to my house for a HUGE party 
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Jan 28, 2018 16:35
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Bringing people together was the real devil power all along
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Jan 28, 2018 18:01
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I thought Jenny and co. were possessing/controlling the soldiers to find Satan or something
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Jan 31, 2018 20:53
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Using social media in place of the telepathy from the original was a great move just for the stuff like ”I told my wife I’m a devilman”
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Maybe I give the show too much slack but whenever something felt weird narratively I reminded myself it's an adaptation of an incredibly dorky 70s manga.
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Feb 5, 2018 15:50
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Endorph posted:hell, what red blooded woman HASNT wanted to gently caress a spider Optimal world Miki would be the cleaver-toting Go Nagai World one but she’s gay and fucks a spider tbh
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Feb 9, 2018 07:26
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The show full of very gay goals. But I’m particular to Miko. It’s the
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Feb 15, 2018 07:08
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Go Nagai didn’t father the Miko is a lesbian genre for this kind of talk to take place
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Feb 16, 2018 21:58
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Sorry I only like wholesome gays and ultraviolence
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Devilman Classic Collection is a really high quality book and I'm glad I bought it but I was super confused about the chapter selection until I found out Shin Devilman has apparently been included as part of most publications of regular Devilman for a while now. I gotta say I'm not a huge fan of that choice because it doesn't fit in elegantly at all, and that's not even going into its plot of stuff like "Hitler hated the jews because time traveling demons I guess" Still worth it for huge color spreads of angel dick
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