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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


this is the thread to discuss the 2018 congressional and senate elections



on one side we have the republican party, "the party of lincoln". they made a retard president and will likely be responsible for more deaths than any political party since the National Socialist German Workers Party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80x7svyKR1Q

on the other side we have the democrats, mostly a collection of bought and paid for assholes who represent a different set of rich people from the republicans. genereally more sane and better at maintaining our capitalist empire. extremely bad at getting the power to do that though



polls indicate the democrats will probably win the house and could even win the senate.



thanks and enjoy the thread,

Sheng-Ji Yang has issued a correction as of 02:02 on Jan 5, 2018

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


The Unlife Aquatic posted:

is trump going to try to dissolve the senate and house if the dems win? i bet he will

god i hope so

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Frijolero posted:

Despite their best efforts, the Democrats are going to make good gains this year.

yeah im pretty sure they will, probably take the house. but i was also absolutely convinced hillary would win and i despised that rear end in a top hat

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


well hopefully they do win big because theyll win even bigger in 2020 and president bernie will hopefully have enough dems to sideline blue dog assholes but lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


http://www.thecrosstab.com/2018-midterms-forecast/

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




the race is tightening for some inexplicable reasons

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Comrayn posted:

bigger mess: dems or Jeb!?

jeb is an honorary democrat

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-maps/#Competitive

this is kinda cool

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


pfizerman posted:

lol jebocrat

the democratic party will finalize realize the great opportunity to steal the moderate conservatives from the Republicans and nominate a Jeb/Booker ticket

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


hillary isnt running again

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/969745418899935232

More democrats have early voted in TX than republicans lmao

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80x7svyKR1Q

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




this is in 4 months yall

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/upshot/99-days-till-midterm-elections-battleground.html

decent article on the midterms. seems optimistic for the dems

dems are doing better in rural and working class areas than previously thought.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/jakehonig/status/1029058751603585029

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


nate has released his house projections.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/

look good for the dems! america is already great friends

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


less than a month off and democrats are 1. probably going to not win control of the senate 2. probably going to win the house

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


a dem house at war with the rest of the federal government is gonna be fun

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




owned

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Lawman 0 posted:

Turns out his wife beat the poo poo out of him op

lol i thought this was a weird bad joke but apparently not

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/17/unsealed-divorce-records-rep-keith-ellison-says-ex-wife-abused-him/

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Mokelumne Trekka posted:

I belong to the hardcore nothing matters camp except for one thing that does matter: peoples money.

The collapse would probably be seen as a deep state orchestration by the Brietbart crowd and the fault of Dems by Fox News, but I think if we take into account how W. Bush approval fell by time he left one would think just enough of these morons would turn on Trump. All just IMHO.

Yeah people saying that an economic crisis and recession wouldn't hurt Trump are pretty silly. The status quo is always held against the President, and aside for his most blind partisans the blame would fall on Trump.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Xelkelvos posted:

Not voting for the Dems in a D vs. R race has never pushed the Dems Leftward.

tell that to the populist party, the progressive party, and the socialist party

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


I disagree that it's impossible to takeover the party from within to push it left, just very difficult and compromising, and it requires institutions and movements outside of it threatening it, including a leftist third party. If they successfully hold off the Bernie wing of the party the only choice will be a third party

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


beto is oss off 2.0

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Get rid of the house and Senate and replace them with the committee of public safety

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Typo posted:

basically the thing americans refuse to accept because they think that the US government is best in the world is that parliamentary systems are superior for the 21st century.

What america actually wants is a 5-6 party system and coalition governments in parliament, then the dem-socialists can vote for the DSA and divorce themselves from the democrats entirely, so you have the

socialist party-Democrats-Kasich Republicans-Christian ted cruz party-Trump nationalist white people's party

on the american political spectrum

but in real life americans all think they want a third party but are too dumb to figure out that 3rd parties can't exist for any length of time in america because of how the electoral system is designed, so the broken 18th century system keeps shambling forward

I don't want this because it just absolutely neuters everyone and you end up with neolib centrists running everything into the ground leaving no choice but the far right. See: Europe

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Parliamentary systems are superior I insist as salvini and orban shovel another Muslim child into a meat grinder while macron jerks off in the corner

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


AFancyQuestionMark posted:

As opposed to what's happening under the current system?

At least there is potential in a two party system for a more radical shift - Trump taking over the GOP, or say a Bernie takeover of the dems. A multiparty parliamentary system totally guarantees a centrist path until it utterly fails and collapses.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


AFancyQuestionMark posted:

There is no magic system of government that's going to nullify real strong trends in the attitudes and culture of the population itself, without also being autocratic. Even then, as strongman dictator/council of elders/vanguard party you still need to pay attention to the whims of the larger population, or at least some significant segments of it. You can't pull full communism out of thin air and expect everyone to go along with it.

Yeah jiggering with the mechanisms of bourgeois democracy ultimately results in little difference, the only solution is it's destruction.

Anyways, about those midterms,

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


jBrereton posted:

Reminder that the german equivalent of the dems literally went into government with the german republicans twice in the last 20 instead of working with the DSA and Greens, which they could have but chose not to for similar reasons the Dems would do so today.

Yep and this is 100% what would happen in the US

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1058532803263062019?s=19

Remember all this poo poo before 2016 lol.

The more good sounding news I hear the more pessimistic I become

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Typo posted:

agree lol

stop comparing poo poo to 2014 lol you want to compare to 2016 at absolute minimum

if the operating theory is more turnout = more dem than you have to consider AZ being +5 with presidential level turnouts

yeah the article mentions its "almost at 2016 levels!!" which is, uh, not good news?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Thoguh posted:

Is there a good list of what races to be watching tommorow to know if our descent into further facism over the coming years will at least include minority prison guards?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo

basically the grey ones on the hex map

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1059585561109950465?s=19

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Love Stole the Day posted:

Reminder that if the Democrats take the Senate then Bernie Sanders will be the Chairman of the Budget Committee

drat no wonder the democrats are self sabotaging bad enough to lose the senate

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


are the milk drinkers shook yet

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Radirot posted:

What was voter turnout like 50 years ago?

50 years and 1 day ago Richard Nixon was elected

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Mons Hubris posted:

70% chance Rs keep the House yikes

lol owned

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


pic of me going to the polls

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Dolomite posted:

just to the northwest



ah yeah, i cant believe beto is losing in Wise County,

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