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Julias posted:^It 100% is dude. Figured as much. gently caress Kissmanga.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:lol if you use adblock + noscript instead of ublock + umatrix
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Jan 26, 2018 08:29
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Does umatrix come with that K-on character.
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Jan 26, 2018 08:49
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Jose posted:mangadex is nice and minimal but whatever tampermonkey or whatever script i've got to make manga load the entire chapter to scroll vertically doens't work for it yet Somebody created a pull request on the github script for it already. Here is the modified script: https://github.com/kyuucr/manga-loader/raw/39e3ec943c92ca43a5b25efdef8bb52d4256ea96/manga-loader.user.js
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Jan 26, 2018 09:01
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is anyone else getting a lot of images failing to load while browsing mangadex?
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Jan 26, 2018 10:57
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They had some image uploading problems before they set up their FTP, no one has gone back to reupload though.
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Jan 26, 2018 12:17
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Zerilan posted:Best way to read manga anyway is lying in bed with a tablet app. The best way to read manga is to hold the book in your hands!!
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Jan 26, 2018 14:25
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The best way to read manga is to learn Japanese!
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Jan 26, 2018 14:26
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The best wa-
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Jan 26, 2018 14:46
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The best way to read manga is by waiting 30 minutes first motherfuckers
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Jan 26, 2018 15:50
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The best way to read manga is while the author is drawing it and commenting on besto garl.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:13
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Mordaedil posted:The best way to read manga is while the author is drawing it and commenting on besto garl. Watching a mangaka stream and talk about their favorite characters is charming.
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Jan 26, 2018 17:26
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Julias posted:^It 100% is dude. it partly is. there's a lot of stuff on there that's scraped from batoto, but there's also a lot of stuff that batoto has literally never hosted and that's generally insanely difficult to find online (for example, they have the Dark Horse Berserk translations, not the old Engrish scans that call Guts "Gatsu" like every other site that hosts old Berserk), so I'm 99% sure they have at least some method of uploading stuff that isn't scraped and some people who do that semi-regularly. e: like, honestly, kissmanga is loving weird and i'm really not sure how they operate, because every answer I've gotten leaves some missing pieces of the puzzle. scraping batoto explains how they have new, unlicensed stuff; it absolutely does not explain why they're able to have licensed stuff from ages ago, and it doesn't explain how they somehow have different scans in some cases than the very few other ultra-sketchy sites that do carry licensed poo poo. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Jan 26, 2018 19:55
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the stuff they have that batoto don't is just ripped official scans and stuff 'stolen' of private sub groups
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Jan 26, 2018 20:04
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so basically I should keep using kissmanga because it gets the jimmies of people who use such things as "private sub groups" extremely rustled e: seriously i have no idea what that is, is that like that one guy who charges money to do Guyver translations and doesn't actually edit them into the raw or?
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Jan 26, 2018 20:08
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Xelkelvos posted:gently caress Kissmanga.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:13
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I for one don't want to support anyone making a business of piracy.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:37
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Also consider: kissmanga doesn't respond to DMCA requests. So those berserk scans were once on batoto, or another reader site they scraped (or a scanlator group, or just a dude who uploaded stuff illegally on a site that is now long gone). Once they're up, kissmanga just left then up. Batoto received a DMCA request, it got taken down. Kissmanga may not be big enough to get a DMCA, and if they did they probably ignored it. I assume they did because that's not the legal gray area that most Scanlation exists in, that's just blatantly illegal. So when I say that scraped batoto, that wasn't and isn't the only thing they scrape. It was just likely the biggest piece of the pie.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:59
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oh i don't disagree that it's blatantly illegal. literally every other site i've seen has the old "Gattsu" scans for that exact reason, and I wasn't even aware anyone had scanned the DH translations, which is why I just about shat bricks when I went to go dig a panel out from one of the early chapters a while back and saw that it wasn't in Engrish and had decent typesetting. e: also, yeah, they're probably getting away with it by being hosted in Russia. (seriously, use your loving adblocker and noscript because I would be very not surprised if Putin's getting something out of it) WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Jan 26, 2018 22:08
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:(seriously, use your loving adblocker and noscript because I would be very not surprised if Putin's getting something out of it) My novel solution to this problem is to not use the malicious site that's probably trying to add devices to a russian botnet. Xelkelvos posted:gently caress Kissmanga.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:33
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Russia has gone too far now by datamining my read manga series.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:54
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Also consider: kissmanga doesn't respond to DMCA requests. So those berserk scans were once on batoto, or another reader site they scraped (or a scanlator group, or just a dude who uploaded stuff illegally on a site that is now long gone). Once they're up, kissmanga just left then up. Batoto received a DMCA request, it got taken down. Sounds like those Berserk scans are the official English translations released by an English publisher. Compared to fan translations this is less "legal grey area" and more "explicit copyright violation". Batoto wouldn't touch stuff like that with a ten-foot pole, even before getting a DMCA request. The folks running Kissmanga could have grabbed it from any number of pirate or torrent sites though. And IIRC their website is hosted in China so they can just ignore US copyright laws forever.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:55
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Kissmanga is known to host official translations alongside fan translations, they legitimately don't care either way.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:lol if you use adblock + noscript instead of ublock + umatrix how do i get it to stop blocking embedded tweets?
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Jose posted:how do i get it to stop blocking embedded tweets? probably whitelist twitter and twimg.com
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Brought To You By posted:Kissmanga is known to host official translations alongside fan translations, they legitimately don't care either way. Yea Kissmanga is some drat fine win.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Sounds like those Berserk scans are the official English translations released by an English publisher. Compared to fan translations this is less "legal grey area" and more "explicit copyright violation". Batoto wouldn't touch stuff like that with a ten-foot pole, even before getting a DMCA request. Kissmanga is its own thing, they have scripts and scrapers and stuff, maybe a person or two running things but not uploads from scanners. From things I've heard, they may or may not run all of the other sites like mangapanda or w/e and just collect ad money from all of it. Pewdiepie posted:Yea Kissmanga is some drat fine win. 
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Jan 27, 2018 01:12
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They should have called the site Butthurto.
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Pewdiepie posted:Yea Kissmanga is some drat fine win. Use whatever site you want too. I just prefer to go to places that don't require me to wear a condom and a hazmat suit just to read my Mongolion cave drawings.
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Brought To You By posted:Use whatever site you want too. I just prefer to go to places that don't require me to wear a condom and a hazmat suit just to read my Mongolion cave drawings. lol if you don't wear a condom and a hazmat suit everywhere you go, including your parents' house
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Jan 27, 2018 07:13
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They are all pretty illegal honestly, it's mostly a matter of finding the site that allows the highest quality images.
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Jan 27, 2018 10:51
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Kissmanga's the only site incl. dynasty that hosted the great sadly canceled Ninomiya Hikaru yuri manga so it's by far the best of them Just use noscript
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Jan 27, 2018 11:09
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I'm just of the opinion that maybe we shouldn't revel in the fact that the site does illegal things without consequences. Like, reading it because it's there is one thing, but saying "yeah they do illegal things and it's awesome" is another.
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Jan 27, 2018 15:59
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You're already posting in the illegal crimes forum. If you didn't pay the proper license holder for whatever you're looking at, then it's a bootleg and you're ripping off someone's intellectual property for free. sorry but that's just how manga works.
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Jan 27, 2018 16:39
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Nah, I'll still chide the site which uses the content of scanalators without their consent and generally disregards it.
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Jan 27, 2018 16:48
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Obviously they're bad for that reason, and for heinous predatory ads and malware and all the other garbage, but seems a little disingenuous to tut-tut over infringing material if you still wouldn't be paying for the content wherever else you read it
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Jan 27, 2018 16:51
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My point is, essentially, yes we read these things, but we shouldn't revel in the fact that it's illegal. If you have the money, buy subscriptions to places that release these things (CR, SJA - i recently re-upped my subscription there even though I don't read things there because holy poo poo, their online reader is absolutely intolerable). If you can, but some volumes when they come out. I've even imported stuff from Japan that hasn't been - and likely won't ever be - licensed (though this is expensive and I haven't done it since going to grad school). We should support official releases whenever we can to help the industry here grow. The more it grows, the more projects they can pick up and officially release! I like that, and understand when companies DMCA things because, yeah if you're scanning something that's licensed that's no bueno. (It's a bit more complex when something is licensed but WAAAAAY behind and the scanlations are current.) If you can't afford it, well if you can eventually help out that'd be cool but don't sweat it. I'm not gonna shame people who can't spend money. But if you can and you just say 'lol it's illegal and free, that's awesome', maybe rethink things?
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Jan 27, 2018 17:08
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I maintain several related subscriptions and frequently fall back to them in order to clarify what was actually written in the chapters when whatever complete garbage the speed scans try to call a translation becomes too hard to contort into a proper understanding. The one major problem with all the official and legal readers that I subscribe to is that their interface/user experience is almost as much garbage as the speed scans "translations" and they frequently rely on flash player which should be already banned from the internet under penalty of death and dismemberment.
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Jan 27, 2018 20:24
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Yeah. The sja reader literally made me cancel my subscription for a while. Then I figured even if i don't use it, i can pay the small fee per month for it since I'm reading the stuff anyway.
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Whoops I out the SJ subscription into the checkiut but forgot to actually buy it when it expired last year in june
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