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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Everything Burrito posted:

Go ahead and get it all out of your systems

I mean, I am curious just how much rain it takes to fill a 28 year age gap

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AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.


That applies to the manga though. When it comes to an anime adaptation, not everything is exactly 1:1. (e.g., Jun Ito collection, etc.).

I watched the first 3 eps of this and certainly could feel how it tried to be, but felt the execution was off by enough to drop. And I'm not talking the sparkly good animation, I'm talking pure characterization and storyboarding. Even knowing what is 'supposed' to happen from the series synopsis, it needed almost perfect execution to overcome the inherent problematic premise, and was close but did not succeed. Minor details like the shirt sniffing scene or the handling of her love confession were just not done well enough.

Also for the record, my wife got triggered AF watching this with me. I tried and explained everything, including the spoiled synopsis and everything above about separating concept vs execution, to get her at least through 3 episodes, but her tightrope expectations for the show were even more stringent than mine and she ultimately came to the same conclusion.

tl;dr: your manga might be good, but this anime has done just enough wrong (doesn't matter if its the source material or the adaptation) to warrant a failed 3 ep test.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

ViggyNash posted:

I don't understand this post because I think the direction in this show is fantastic. I love the pacing and presentation a lot. I don't have the manga for context in my case so maybe this is a matter of differing expectations.

The pacing (how fast does the story move) and presentation (how visually good does the final product look) are fine, I said the storyboarding (how shots are composed towards the overall theme) and characterization (how the characters are portrayed nonvisually) were the issues.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Chas McGill posted:

Yeah it seems very close to the feel of the manga so far, although it's been a while since I read the early chapters.

My point is calling the anime close but not good enough. If your argument is it has been mostly faithful to the manga then I guess I'm primarily blaming the source material for not being good enough.

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

ViggyNash posted:

I feel like we're talking to-may-to, to-mah-to here for the most part. What issues do you have with the characterization?

Aside from the two scenes I already mentioned, I'll detail a third example: after the montage of seeing her injury and loss of ability to participate in track, in her down state she goes to the restaurant where she first meets our titular 45 yr old manager. He does one simple nice gesture that he would have done for anyone, does a magic trick, then leaves.

....and now she loves him, happy go lucky, story pushes forward. Wait, what? You're telling me her infatuation was predicated on this one nice thing that she latched onto in her depression? Ok fine, but why was it framed as some bog-standard romantic encounter? Like this is clearly unhealthy and not good, yet no indication is made to address or even setup this theme. And I'm giving the show the benefit of the doubt already by calling it an "infatuation". The show is framing this as full throttle love.

My argument is that there are ways to do this exact same scene and sequence of events, but more properly frame it as the beginning of a complex relationship with two broken people trying to resolve their poo poo. It's hard to pull off, but that's inherently the risk with such a premise, otherwise this just becomes a creeper show about old dude gettin wit that teenage girl.

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