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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

a drone war where drones are the only casualty is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

congrats afghans successfully defeated the british empire, ussr and the united states.

that's what happens when your nation is descended from Alexander the Great himself. also Genghis, and Tamerlane

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Kindest Forums User posted:

four decades of constant war. Two generations of people that know nothing but conflict.

imagine how Somalia outside of Somaliland feels

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

why can't they get enough arms to the SDF to convince them to overthrow Assad. it's not just Kurds in that coalition, there's some former FSA types there too

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Israel's alliance of the periphery

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

keep Turkey but they have to use the Karamanid flag for laffs

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

good... he'd probably kick Erdogan's li'l behind!!!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Kurnugia posted:

the brown moses is going to places, and hes making big waves in the propaganda industry. ships are turning over, spilling evidence of chemical attacks right in front of my eyes. ooh stinky erection!

and he’s a goon!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Imagine what kinda super-terrorist network is brewing in Guantanamo right now

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EcmTeRL1Ng

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

How historic is this really. Israel has relations with Egypt and Jordan, so it's not as if no Arab country has normalized relations with them. The UAE is a latecomer anyway; and don't Gulf Arabs and Levantine Arabs have a mutual rivalry? The UAE already seemed like a Western friendly hyper-capitalist country that would get along with America's other client states. This is going to be significant in terms of diplomatic, economic, and maybe even military relationships in the future. But historic, beyond specifically between Israel and the UAE? I don't see how.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

The GCC, led mostly by UAE + Saudi largely dictate Middle East policy at this point. Egypt + The levant live off of GCC aid:
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190319-gulf-countries-supported-egypt-with-92bn-since-2011/

I wonder if this follows some sort of general historical pattern of old core developed areas (Rome, Europe, the U.S.) declining and being eclipsed by younger, previously-less developed areas (the barbarian frontier, the Americas, China).

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

The GCC still do not accept Israeli citizens in their borders, and even visiting Israel and having a stamp on your passport can bar you from entering. UAE doing this is a test run for KSA doing this which will basically pressure the entire middle east to be ok with Israel (and anti-Iran). You could see the shift happening recently - the GCC explicitly did not call Hezbollah a terrorist organization until 2016 and were ok with supporting them because they were anti-Israel and that was more important than Sunni/Shia. And then MBS invades Yemen and suddenly the main issue is Iranian intervention.

Okay, sounds like this is a big deal because it's overt, but it sounds like the Gulf States and esp. Saudi Arabia has had de facto cooperative relationships with Israel on intelligence and military matters for a while now, at least where countering Iran is concerned. Hasn't Saudi-Iranian rivalry existed for a while before Yemen? Though of course it escalated it.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

yeah, yeah, it's a lazy oversimplification, but I meant in comparing the PRC as a modern 20th century* nation-state (or at least the ROC, but that wasn't much of a state on mainland China for long) to the U.S. as a modern 20th century nation-state. I wasn't factoring in imperial China.

I needed three examples and wanted the irony of the U.S. being on both lists.

* that's also probably a bad descriptor here. "Industrialized"?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1295740829009510401
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1295767517101797378

This probably says less about Israel or the UAE and more about the transitional Sudanese government's dire economic situation

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Does Sudanese civil society even care either way about Israel? They're not exactly a nearby neighbor.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

But the poster you're responding to never said that Assad should have been overthrown, that instead he should have given some concessions to the initial non-jihadist protesters?

Framing every Middle Eastern situation as one between secular autocrats vs. fanatical fundamentalists is literally how Western imperialism has played the region against itself for the past century.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

haha on Apple TV+'s scant roster of original shows is an Israeli spy drama about infiltrating Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm_vHTy9IYA

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1304464848831631361

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Is Qatar involved in Yemen at all? They're involved in Libya. Just how did all these Gulf Arabs start pursuing rival proxy wars with the Saudis, anyway? Does Bahrain also sponsor groups?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

yellowcar posted:

please let bibi get the roni

after Bolsonaro and BoJo all got it and recovered, it doesn't put as much of a dent on world leaders

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012


Between Iran, Venezuela, and China, how many foreign war October surprises can there be?

If they're hedging their bets by rattling sabers over every continent and region in the world, they might as well choose a side in Belarus

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Françafrique? Non, Françummah!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

This year loves to revive long-simmering unresolved conflicts

https://twitter.com/Alfudail/status/1327182174383005697
https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1327213393279913991

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/TMebtoul/status/1328343095138807808
https://twitter.com/SAHARAWIVOICE/status/1327231922557292549

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Democracy Now! report

https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1328348552339263488

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Conflicts over Nagorno-Karabakh and Western Sahara reigniting demonstrate the '90s are back again... what's next, Northern Ireland?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Plutonis posted:

It's been a while since the last Balkan conflict

The Ethiopian Civil War ended in 1991 so I guess this is picking up from there

https://twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1328698875117506562

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Dunno if anything's been happening in Israel-Palestine lately, but another two-state solution has also been in the news, speaking of Turkey

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1328014951420747784

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1332330896813420546

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Escalation in the age-old rivalry between Levantine Arabs and Khaleeji

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

quote:

Biden was credited in 2010 with convincing President Barack Obama to adopt a more aggressive approach in Afghanistan, doubling down on drones, intelligence operatives, and small teams of door-kicking special forces in place of the “hearts and minds” counterinsurgency approach implemented by General Stanley McChrystal and continued under his successor General David Petraeus.

How were the generals' approach anyway? Pretty crazy that both were drummed out of the Obama administration for petty personal scandals.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Zedhe Khoja posted:

America's military have long been peaceniks in comparison to our bloodthirsty civilian governments.

the Kurd-funding Pentagon vs. the ISIS-arming CIA

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

The US army spending millions to train and arm a militia that immediately dissolved within a day of crossing into Syria was also a great moment.

Again I think that was the CIA, the military backed the SDF who are far more competent

ah wait nvm https://www.anti-empire.com/pentagons-last-syrian-rebel-group-goes-belly-up/

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

PawParole posted:

Abiy is starting fights all over the place. The land in question is Sudanese, and recognized as Sudanese by the Ethiopian government. The squatters farming on it are from the only ethnic group that currently somewhat supports the government (Abiy having angered everyone else), and so he needs to stand firm on this or be overthrown.

The Ethiopian Erdogan

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Oh great I love it when they consolidate plotlines

https://twitter.com/YonhapNews/status/1346312917872852992

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

Why does South Korea remotely have any interests in the region?

E: Just saw the article from a few days ago.

South Korea is a energy importer but they've frozen Iranian assets at U.S. behest

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1346422208554479617

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Museveni rigs another election

https://twitter.com/qataharraymond/status/1350328265815314432

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

guidoanselmi posted:

Somehow Morsi's Rate My Professor page from his days at CSU Northridge is blank :(
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/AddRating.jsp?tid=1827761

people who were college students in 1982 to 1985, probably don't post on that site

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/boxswapper/status/1411137491852304384

didn't read the whole thing but lol this ad popped up

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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012


hmm well now there are U.S. troops who have the free time to redeploy to Iraq

genericnick posted:

And also MBS is a coke fueled punk who was always going to push Saudi Arabia's hegemonic status until the levers came off. He overplayed his hand with Qatar, Yemen and I assume now with the UAE.

What do the Qataris and the Emiratis feel about one another? I think they're probably rivals but it would seem to be a no-brainer for all of these small Gulf states (Bahrain, Oman, etc.) to band up against the Saudis

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