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What is Trigger's best previous anime
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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

NotALizardman posted:



I love this robot.

She looks like she'd play in the snow and come in to drink some cocoa

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Im thinking 016 is just a massive sub which is why he doesn't get hurt when 02 takes over and pilots the mecha herself. It would be a pretty good twist if him being a milktoast virgin is what makes him uniquely qualified to be 02s partner. Also for being a bunch of death cult leaders those drat filthy apes just hang around in a circle doing admin work.

I'd lol if that's what it's actually about since 02's cockpit seems to have her in the seat normally meant for the male pilots unless that unit has its own unique set-up where they're in the missionary position or something.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Postal Parcel posted:

Then just call it FranXXX, or Darling in the SpanXX
Just because it's official doesn't mean it isn't bad
(That said "da-li fura" sounds like it could become darliflower (da-li furawa) which would be okay)

e:Wasn't the super battles become common thing a KyoAni project? Or ami i mixing it up with something else?

No, that's Trigger. The most similar thing to that I can think of is Myriad Colors Phantom World

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Here's some official 4Komas related to the series done in the P&SwG style
https://mangadex.com/manga/23201

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I want these animated.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Eela6 posted:

DARLING in the FRANXX - Some Incomprehensible New Realm Of Hyperporn

New thread title please

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


I guess this sorta solves the mystery of how 002 is normally handled. i.e. like a wild bull. As for how her and Hiro drive it, it's still a mystery.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I really don't think the show would add anything by adding a homosexual couple, at least in and of itself. If it did something interesting with it, maybe. But otherwise it'd just feel like pandering.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I feel like you don't get the point of a mecha series then.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Their residence being modeled after that old hospital/clinic is actually rather eerie. Also, no one's really brought up Hiro's scar other than 02 who merely caressed it. That maternity book is gonna really make some waves though and probably bring up some uncomfortable revelations about their society.

Left field theory: They're all clones. That's why they're numbered rather than given names because they're meant to be expendable. The ED stuff is actually the originals. They don't reach adulthood because the cloning process isn't perfect or engineered in such a way to prevent them from reaching it. Their residence being modeled after the clinic is probably because they were all from that town and had stayed there for some reason.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Kashuno posted:

I would love a yurucamp with the FranXX girls

Same, but the mecha as girls.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
02 is the Wild Card that will change everything for them. The introduced "foreign element". Hiro also seems to be special fit other reasons based on what the naked council seemed to imply

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

tsob posted:

He has no reaction to almost everything. Including being around both boys and girls in swimsuits, and being around a bunch of buck rear end nekkid guys. He's a stoic person, and piloting with 02 is one of the few things to make him actual emote and react in general.

Basically everyone and their partner is fairly similar in disposition and their reactions to things. Ikuno and Mitsuru are both rather cold and aloof but Ikuno broke her facade a little. That also might be because Mitsuru is still popping pain pills and still affected by his ride with 02.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
This was basically a heavy setting infodump episode alongside being a Zorome episode. We already knew that they were an abnormal and experimental group, but it seems that they're extremely so. Their entire lifestyle is implied to be completely different from the norm of typical parasites. It's also implied that the kids are probably at least half "human" since Zorome remembers some aspect of his birth and we're basically told the "adult" he meets is his mother. As for the other potential genetic donor, that's still a mystery. Parasite might be a lot more literal than initially thought too.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Hunt11 posted:

I feel like the moment you get out of squad 13 everything gets a lot less wholesome and a lot more messed up.

I imagine the other squads are also hosed up in their own ways. 13 is meant to be extremely unique.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Ikuno is definitely in lesbians with Ichigo. Mitsuru saw Hiro as someone to idolize (when he says "pilot with," I read that as "alongside" rather than as "I want to be in the same Franxx with you", but idk what the original japanese indicates) until he was betrayed and much of his character his influenced by his now revealed betrayal by Hiro. The nature of that betrayal is unknown, but it's clear that Mitsuru has basically been pushing himself at every opportunity to compensate for his own feeling of inadequacy caused by it.

Contrast that to Zorome who's basically over-compensating because of his ego and pride and the desire to be acknowledged by Papa.

The Kokoro focused episode is gonna be a bombshell though based on what we've got from her so far. She definitely seems like she wants to break free from her cage, but is still on the fence about really doing it.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
What I'm guessing happened to Hiro is what might've happened to the other Parasites like the ones piloting the regular model Franxx, just earlier due to his apparently high piloting potential. Dr. Franxx probably intervened so it didn't happen to the rest of what would be Squad 13

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

dogsicle posted:

i may be misreading what people are saying when they want a plot twist as well. it's just that i've seen this idea that Trigger somehow signals a wild plot twist in multiple places and am not sure how they earned that reputation given their work. hell, maybe a twist is still allowed to be called a twist even if it is patently obvious to anyone taking the time to dissect a story.

Good thing this is only animated by Trigger and not actually written by its staff.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Kashuno posted:

season/cour same dif

Not to be pedantic, but no(?) that's totally wrong. Season is more equivalent to "series" ala Doctor Who, that is to say a distinct unit of produced episodes for a given series. Cour is just a block of episodes aired over a 12 to 13 week period.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


I wanna see a mahou shoujo Darling in the FranXX

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I really hope Hiro finally does something proactive after all of this. Like sneaking or getting snuck into o or onto a FranXX during the operation and jumping into Strelizia to apologize/confront/reunite with Zero Two.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Mitsuru is straight. Also the Klaxosaur Princess is gonna smooch Dr. FranXX

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Roland Jones posted:

It's hard to say, given that "Hachi" and "Nana" are numbers (eight and seven, respectively) as well as names. They could legitimately be just number designations that happen to also work as/sound like names on their own.

Though, on a tangent from that, all the kids' names are actually taken from their numbers too; "Ichigo", in addition to being a normal name that means "strawberry", is "ichi" and "go", one and five, for 015, for example, while "Kokoro", along with meaning "heart", is "ko", an alternate spelling/pronunciation of "go", and "ro" from "roku", or six, to go with her code of 556. Young Hiro ("hito", a different word for "one", and "ro" like with Kokoro, for 016) wasn't just pulling those names from thin air, he was taking their codes and turning them into real names.

And of course Zero Two, which isn't really much of a name as he admits, in addition to the obvious, can be "o ni", or "oni", a sort of demon, in addition to being, you know, 02. Though that's a meta thing, not Hiro's doing.

This was known by at least the second or third episode I believe. Ep 12 or 13, iirc, had him explicitly taking code numbers and making names. 02 being Oni was something Hiro even remarked on and didn't think it was a good name.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
APE literally wants to do Instrumentality. Lol

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Toalpaz posted:

I heard some mix reviews but I love Trigger/Gainax as a whole typically and I love this anime too. The intro and outro are catchy and lovely. I enjoy the tone and pacing. I also can't get over Ichigo's pining for 016/Hiro(? Sic) and 002's relationship with 016. The cast has very interesting, cute, and weird dynamics with each other compared to most anime relationships. Will report back after I catch up.

I know this may be frowned upon but I love the english dub of 002 and her delivery of 'My Darling'

The writing is all A-1 btw. The animation is Trigger's though. Idk why this keeps escaping people.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Evangelion was never actually all that symbolic and deep. It just looked that way because Anno threw a bunch of Christian elements to look cool. FranXX is the same way. Lots of bits that look cool, but ultimately are just fluff that don't actually mean anything.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Matsuri posted:

I'm glad someone else says this. I love Evangelion to pieces, it's one of my favorite series ever. But too many people seem to act like it's too deep/pretentious/confusing when it's really not.

Except End of Evangelion. That's a delightful brainfuck, but you still can understand what's going on, more or less.

I had the pleasure of rewatching it recently so a lot of it has been refreshed. There's definite a few themes that are reinforced like Shinji's loneliness and avoidance and generally about relationships, but poo poo like how it's a metaphor for Otaku or Shinji's Oedipus complex via EVA-01 and Rei are probably off base. We know (and he has spoken openly about this) that Anno has Depression and a lot of those same feelings that Depressed people have come out through Shinji and Asuka primarily. But that's sort of the thing with self-expression. Evangelion is just as much an outlet for Anno's emotions as it is a story about giant robots and people and their relationships.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

skasion posted:

End of Eva definitely takes a bit of time out to criticize anime obsessives, or at the very least generally ask its audience to look at themselves and consider whether they are living a worthwhile life or just insulating themselves from pain with trivialities.

Given that one of the major themes of Eva was about the potential pain of being close to others, the latter would be in line with the overall theme.

One big thing is that Anno is also a giant otaku so as Evangelion is an expression of himself regarding the pain closeness, it also comes through the lens of an otaku which might give a bit of an impression that it's targeting those like him since it's him speaking to himself in some way

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

There Bias Two posted:

Are we sure that this show is supposed to be complete with the end of this season?

Yes. The anime was announced as two cours.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Darth, you're reading way too into everything. Mitsuru was never in love with Hiro. At most, it was admiration. The only thing that I can recall that people bring up of evidence that Mitsuru was in love with Hiro is when he said he wanted to pilot Franxx with him. Now, you could have your shipping goggles on and assume that means in the same robot, but it just as likely means that he wants to pilot alongside Hiro in his own Franxx.

Also, the anti-semetic conspiracy theory is :wtc: I think you may have been taking too many cat drugs.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Toalpaz posted:

This is basically willful blindness. Mitsuru wanted to pilot a Franxx with Hiro, in the same Franxx. Otherwise why would he be frustrated despite them being in the same group of pilots? Seems like he would try and support his friend to get him piloting Franxx if all he was concerned about was piloting around each other. Mitsuru is angry/frustrated because someone he was crushing on as a little kid forgot about a promise they made 3 weeks earlier (as kids at the time) that's almost the equivalent to 'lets get married when we're older'.

He's frustrated because Hiro forgot the promise, not that the promise went unfulfilled.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The spacer episodes, contrary to what some though were there to account for production delays, are extremely likely to be intentional as a way to aid production and just part of the intended makeup of the series.

As far as the greying is concerned: It's probably what happens when you push yourself with the FranXX too far. With no magma energy to feed off of, it starts taking some of the pilot's life force to fuel things. Ostensibly, it should shut down before it starts pulling from the pilot, but I guess if it's all launched in one go, it takes a big toll.

Episode 22 is definitely gonna be an aftermath episode with the ending taking place some time in the future as the VIRM return with their entire fleet facing off a planet who've embraced unity.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Eela6 posted:

what the gently caress was the point of the rampage mode? or 02 turning back into an oni? or all the flower 'symbolism', or nana & hachi, or zorome, or APE, or..

what the gently caress was the point of any of this.

tomorrow it will be over, and the healing can begin

Because it looked cool. That's why.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
An S2 was announced?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Roland Jones posted:

I'm behind, so I can't comment on a lot of this stuff, but is anyone else bothered by the death scene for Nine Delta and Epsilon? They had multiple humanoid monster things pinning them down, one with its hand not-inconspicuously on the robot's chest and several grabbing its thighs, with the pilots able to feel everything being done to their robot due to how the piloting works, and with them screaming and crying as they were brutalized. To put it bluntly, it seems intended to not-so-subtly evoke rape imagery. After all the lovely treatment queer(-ish) characters got in this show, they killed off two of them in a monster gang rape scene (that was also just one of the cruelest and most brutal deaths so far even if you ignore the above). I wasn't expecting things to suddenly get good on that front, but I also wasn't expecting that. Good grief.

Speaking of queer characters, did Ikuno actually end up with Futoshi or another dude, or is working to overcome her terrible flaw of being a lesbian as far as that got? Or did they actually decide to portray homosexuality as something other than a negative quality and maybe even give her a romance that's reciprocated? I haven't seen any major outrage involving her here so unless the show got so bad it got overshadowed I'm guessing they didn't do the first thing at least.

If you watch the ending you'll find out ;)

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

AlphaKeny1 posted:

what the hell are people going on about season 2? is that actually confirmed or are we just trolling people into believing they'll be forced to watch more of this terrible anime

I'm guessing it's people in this thread who don't understand how anime production and planning works in regards to continuations.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

sincx posted:

B- series. I suppose not everything can be the LWA OVA or Inferno Cop (or hell, even LWA TV).

I wouldn't think anyone should expect it to be since it's not a Trigger production.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

sincx posted:

You might want to tell that to Trigger.



To be more specific, Trigger only did the animation. No major Trigger staff was involved in the actual writing and direction for this.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Darth Walrus posted:

The character designs were ugly, and the humour mostly wasn’t quite my thing, but the action scenes were excellent - one of the better efforts from Studio Orange before Land of the Lustrous, I’d say. Here’s one of the show’s standout fights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9_Wj2VwMk4

THere's a lot of egregious Hirai face, but I did appreciate the one episode that just piles on the death flags for the secondary team and is low key blatant about them to the point of parody.

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

He and that cat are gonna gently caress.

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