The Most Horrific Sexual Abuse in Sports History is Coming to Light

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AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Don't forget, Michigan State also has a ton of recent football players getting arrested and charged for horrible things.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 03:08

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 07:21

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Some good news.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/sports/michigan-state-ncaa-investigation.html

# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 03:45

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Seth Galifianakis posted:

The MSU BOT has been a train wreck for years. Hopefully this finally leads to a reset button and maybe some reforms to how they're elected. I don't know if this is the norm in other states, but electing the BOT is done in state-wide partisan elections in federal election years here, meaning party ID and having a prominent name is 99% of what decides it. This has led to perpetual family dynasties and a bunch of former MSU athletes getting elected to the board.

The current chairman is a former basketball player and the basketball arena is named after his dad.

It's this way for Michigan, Michigan State, and Wayne State. It easily allows some rich people to campaign their way on in a wave election, which never ends well.

For Michigan, this is how the whole Dave Brandon thing started.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 19:07

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

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In fact, I can argue convincingly that none of those three institutions should continue to exist in its current form. USA Gymnastics and the USOC should lose their non-profit status forthwith. Michigan State should lose its status within the NCAA for at least five years. American gymnastics is no longer a sport. It�s a conspiracy of pedophiles and their enablers.

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Aly Raisman came for everyone.

She came for every drat one of them.

They should carve Aly Raisman�s entire statement into the walls of the lobby of every athletic organization in the world. They should put her in charge of the Olympics. Larry Nassar should live in a cage long enough to hear about every great thing that Aly Raisman ever does. He will look through bars forever. He should have some company there, too.

https://www.si.com/olympics/2018/01/24/larry-nassar-sentencing-usa-gymnastics-abuse-victims-michigan-state

AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 24, 2018

# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 19:25

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

I'm excited to see Michigan State's expulsion from the Big Ten, to give that spot to Notre Dame, only to have Notre Dame get immediately expelled for maybe Grand Valley State?

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 05:59

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

https://mobile.twitter.com/A2Jess/status/956364868659097600

gently caress YOU, LOU ANNA SIMON.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 07:20

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2018/01/25/lou-anna-simon-resignation-letter-msu/1067001001/

The Free Press had a PR professional give the Fire Joe Morgan treatment to Lou Anna's letter.

Very professional throughout the whole thing, but the conclusion is a masterpiece.

AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jan 26, 2018

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 07:30

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Outside The Lines is going all in on Dantonio and Izzo covering up player crimes.

16 football players accused of some kind of violence against women under Dantonio.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:08

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

It looks like ESPN, via E60 on Sunday morning, is dropping the bomb on Michigan State football and basketball.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:10

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

https://mobile.twitter.com/JLeBlanc_21/status/956951169393405955

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jan 26, 2018

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:14

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Dantonio has booted off a lot of players during his time, so is ESPN bringing out new allegations?

Unreported new allegations, where MSU may have forced things to keep from being prosecuted?

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:25

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Henchman of Santa posted:

He also has a history of giving slaps on the wrist to people for crimes, though sexual violence has gotten guys kicked off and kicked out.

There was an anonymous accusation of some basketball players a few years ago too but nothing came of it. Izzo always boots guys for unspecified violations that usually turn out to be weed.

Maybe we'll finally know what Max Bullough was suspended for!

If it's what I saw while skimming that article, probably gang rape. Lots of gang rape.

That anonymous accusation seemed to be Payne and Appling raping a girl in a dorm.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:29

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

https://mobile.twitter.com/DantonioMark/status/937803858105065475

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:42

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Detroit media is reporting that Hollis is the resignation came after he found out about the ESPN report.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 19:51

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

The dumbest MSU journalist has weighed in.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Graham_Couch/status/956964251045892096

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 20:08

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

https://mobile.twitter.com/AceAnbender/status/956967953769074689

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 20:14

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

stone cold posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/lynseymukomel/status/956953153089490944

the usoc ultimatum is good but they should all probably resign too tbh

Betsy DeVos' investigation is gonna end with some really stern high-fives, singing the MSU fight song, and expelling some poor students

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 23:40

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Pictured: Lou Anna Simon and her husband, Betsy DeVos and her leathery husband

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 23:50

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

cis autodrag posted:

Or in sports argument stadium: "this is really disrupting my March madness bracket"

That's not actually what's going on, idiot.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 01:20

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

cis autodrag posted:

Your "shoot down any solution that might force us to admit sports have problems" routine ain't gonna fly over here bud. You jump at me with your little baby insults anytime I suggest that there are deeper structural issues at play than a couple bad apples in one college. You are deeply invested in college sports continuing to happen regardless of body count.

If you want to make a structured argument instead of name calling be my guest. You've proven incapable so far.

Again, not the discussion going on over there, nor here. Quit misrepresenting things to cause drama and fighting.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 01:26

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

exploded mummy posted:

It's more the former, if you read the memos the social media monitoring amounted to "here is the latest set of popular tweets and news exposing us as corrupt pedophile enablers"

It seems as if Michigan State's strategy was to PR their way out of the problem, but the many days of victim statements destroyed that strategy.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 01:26

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

To bring things back on topic, it was apparently a very open secret that the dean of the college at MSU was a stunningly inappropriate creep.

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Former MSU students say William Strampel had a history of lewd behavior

RJ Wolcott, Lansing State Journal Published 5:32 p.m. ET March 29, 2018 | Updated 7:43 p.m. ET March 29, 2018

LANSING - William Strampel began a meeting in the spring of 2010 by announcing that he�d been told he wasn�t allowed to refer to students in the Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine as his children anymore.

�Except Breanna�s baby,� Strampel said, indicating Bre O�Keefe, a medical student who was then seven months pregnant. �That�s my kid.�

That�s how O�Keefe remembers it. She calls it �one of the most humiliating moments of my life.� Strampel was the dean of the college. Several classmates asked her if what he said was true. It wasn't.

To make matters worse, the meeting was also telecast to the college's satellite sites across the state, she recalled.

Strampel was arrested Monday night and charged the following day with felony misconduct in office, fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, and two other misdemeanors.

He faces the misconduct in office charge, according to an affidavit filed in support of charges, because he "used his office to harass, discriminate, demean, sexually proposition and sexually assault female students."

Strampel's actions during and after former MSU sports medicine doctor Larry Nassar's 2014 Title IX investigation resulted in two misdemeanor charges of willful neglect of duty, according to the affidavit.

He faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

Four women also told investigators that Strampel either groped them or made sexually inappropriate comments and appeared to offer them favorable treatment in exchange for sexual acts. Investigators also say they found pornographic images on Strampel's computer that appeared to be "selfies" from MSU students.

But two former students say Strampel's "creepy" reputation was well known among students at the college.

Nicole Eastman, who is publicly identifying herself as victim #4 in the criminal case against Strampel, said Strampel had groped her during the college's annual ball in 2010.

She was set to graduate later that year, and told police investigators earlier this year she worried Strampel could have derailed her entire medical career.

"It was accepted behavior at MSU," she said.

Strampel, through his attorney John Dakmak, has denied inappropriately touching anyone and any "quid pro quo for sexual favors in exchange for any type of standing within the university's medical school."

Dakmak also said Strampel, who served as dean of the MSU College of Osteopathic Medicine from 2002 until December of last year when he stepped down for medical reasons, never had romantic or sexual relationships with students.

Neither Dakmak nor Strampel responded to requests for comment made Thursday.

Strampel's inappropriate nature was almost a running joke among students, O'Keefe said. Only, it wasn't funny.

The fall prior to the 2010 meeting, O�Keefe sent an email to Strampel, asking for a meeting to discuss what could be done about her impending clinical placement. Newly pregnant and living in the Lansing area, she didn�t want to be away shortly after giving birth to her daughter.

Strampel agreed to meet but wrote in response that O�Keefe should wear a low-cut top if she wanted to get what she was asking for.

Strampel spent the meeting berating O�Keefe for asking for special consideration. When she received a clinical placement in Detroit, she asked for a second meeting.

She and her then-husband attended the second meeting with Strampel. The dean told the couple that spending two years apart during clinics would be good for their marriage. Strampel told them that the only time he saw his wife during the early years of their marriage was to get her pregnant.

The couple left the meeting shaken. O�Keefe couldn�t believe Strampel would talk about his wife that way.

Fortunately for O'Keefe, she got a placement with Sparrow Health Systems after another student dropped.

�I had very little interaction with him after,� O�Keefe said. �I saw him at a local wedding, and I intentionally avoided him.�

She couldn�t avoid Strampel at her graduation ceremony in 2012. Shaking her hand, Strampel complimented the red heels O�Keefe was wearing. He said they made her legs look good, O'Keefe said.

�This is the final moment of medical school,� she remembers thinking. �I�m getting my diploma and that�s what you say to me?"

Strampel had set off Eastman's creep radar early in her time as a medical student. At a free flu-shot clinic hosted by the college, he talked to her about drinking, she told investigators, and said how �it was good when women were drunk, because then it was easy to have sex with them.�

She was also troubled by his boastful tone as he talked about another medical student who was caught cheating pleading with him in his office.

"It was as if he enjoyed that position of power and her vulnerability in that situation," Eastman said.

After being groped by Strampel at the college's ball in 2010, Eastman said, she didn't think there was anybody she could talk to.

Two other faculty members were in a position to see the groping incident but said nothing about it, Eastman said.

She was prompted to come forward after seeing the survivors of abuse at Nassar's hands testify in Ingham County earlier this year. She reached out to Rachael Denhollander, the Kentucky woman who was first to publicly accuse Nassar of sexual assault.

Eventually, she shared emails and correspondence from Strampel to Denhollander, who forwarded it to the Michigan Attorney General's Office, which was investigating how the university handled Nassar. Then Eastman was contacted by a detective sergeant from the Michigan State Police.

"With the climate we�re in now, people shouldn�t fear coming forward and sharing what happened to them," Eastman said.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/2018/03/29/students-msu-michigan-state-william-strampel-groped-pornography-assault-dean/469322002/

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 02:04

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

botany posted:

you are really goddamn weird

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 19:26

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 07:21

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

tsa posted:

It's easy to say just burn everything to the ground. Doesn't take thought or nuance or intellect to do that! But to actually come up with workable solutions that actually make the world better? You have to be smart to do that. A level of intellect that is in short supply here : (

The "burn everything into the ground and magically a pure replacement will emerge" is a dumb take that keeps coming up in this thread.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2018 02:16

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