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PT6A posted:What the gently caress do we do about the fact that apparently a significant chunk of the population (predominantly male) seems to have the idea that they should be able to gently caress and molest men, women and children against their will with impunity, and that they seem to have widespread support to do so in many cases? There's no good answer beyond "exterminate all men." The patriarchy is so embedded in modern society that it's impossible for women to not be assaulted every moment of every day. Those stats saying that 1 in 4 women will be assaulted or raped are misleading; all women are assaulted either directly or through gaslighting. And all men are guilty of it, either through direct actions or through enabling/benefiting from their societal positions. It's fundamentally impossible for women to be safe in a world that allows men into positions of power. Men have shown that given the slightest of advantages, they will abuse anyone and everyone in their way, especially women and minorities who they view as "less powerful" then them. I know it's going to seem like shitposting, but strip away all of the fancy words and academic language and you've got a world that's built on an imbalance of power that gets more skewed every day, and there's no way to fix it without the elimination of anyone with any sort of privilege.
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axeil posted:It's a culture issue yes, but it's also that people are more worried about saving their own asses than doing the right thing. I've seen this in my like and work and by and large people are very, very aethical. They're not unethical but they don't go out of their way to do the right thing when its hard. Sure they do it when it's easy, but when there's a risk or might be a cost or consequence to them? That's when the mouths stay shut and the silence remains. And that's the issue. It's the case of absolute power corrupting absolutely once again. What the institution does doesn't matter, we've seen it from sports to religion to business to whatever. What matters is that men are in a position of power and use it to abuse anyone who isn't them. And people who aren't actively affected don't speak up because they don't want anything bad to happen to them because the vast majority of people are cowards. The answer is that men cannot be in positions of power over women. They will abuse their privilege every time without exception, even if it's not in sexually explicit or exploitative ways.
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Jan 23, 2018 19:50
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Bird in a Blender posted:After a certain point, there really is no reason to use a comically high sentence. I mean he could be sentenced for 5 years per person, and get a 1,000 year sentence, but 50 years or 1,000 years, it will make no difference. The guy will likely spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement for his own protection. Imagine spending the remainder of your life in solitary, that poo poo is psychological torture. I'm glad you have your priorities straight. Sure, this may have been a monster who systematically abused young girls and women for decades without repercussion until now, ruining countless number of lives, but the important thing is to remember that the real victim here is the guy who's going to have to face consequences for his actions, and that inconveniencing him and hurting his feelings is what's truly beyond the pale here. Perhaps we should schedule regular unsupervised field trips from the local elementary schools to his cell, just to make sure his time in prison isn't too difficult. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 24, 2018 20:42
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Bird in a Blender posted:At what point did I ever express sympathy to Nassar? Bird in a Blender posted:Imagine spending the remainder of your life in solitary, that poo poo is psychological torture. His victims have to spend the rest of their lives with the psychological torture of what Nassar did to them. He deserves no better.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:37
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seiferguy posted:That still isn't expressing empathy for him. That's saying "imagine being alone for the rest of your life in a room with nothing to do except eat every so often. That's what this fucker is going to go through." The whole post was complaining about the sentence Nasser received. It was expressing empathy to a person who absolutely doesn't deserve it.
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GobiasIndustries posted:You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're a loving idiot, or both. The whole post was 'end result this guy is going to spend the rest of his life tortured in solitary'. No, the post was whining about the sentencing. Nasser getting hundreds of years instead of just "life" is the entire point of his sentence, to make it explicitly clear the amount of damage he had systemically done to these women. To just say "yeah, you assaulted a lot of women but you've probably only got about 20-30 years left so that's all you get" is to miss the point. As for whining about psychological damage of isolation, it pales in comparison to the psychological damage that Nasser committed. What I always find interesting is that whenever a white male commits a particularly heinous crime, such as Nasser here or Anders Brevik or Dylan Roof or the rest, a certain crowd always comes out and complains about the sentence they receive being "cruel and inhumane." Because, of course, the most important thing to do in the face inhumane acts is to make sure that certain feelings aren't hurt.
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