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WampaLord posted:Holy poo poo. It was reported... what, back in the early 90s? And they sat on their asses and did jack gently caress all. The NCAA will do nothing because it "outside their purview", but they should.
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clueless posted:Plenty of girls have been legitmately raped by U of M football players (it's a open secret that you shouldn't date players there unless you want suprise sex :/ ), and nothing has been or is being done about it, they're either kicked out of school, or told to be quiet about it. Look at what happened with Baylor and Penn State (particularly the former in this case). The coach still wants back in, and if it wasn't for the backlash, he'd be coaching still. The problem is college sports make way too much money for the universities (especially at the D-I level) for them to think about doing anything that could potentially hurt the cash flow. They aren't necessarily taking money away from the academic programs (though this undoubtedly does happen), since they are way too profitable for the school, especially football and men's basketball.
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PT6A posted:Why do Americans think this? Quoting from a couple pages back to address this: The NHL doesn't depend on colleges as a "free minor league". A large amount of NHL prospects come up through the Canadian junior leagues, where they do actually get paid if they make it to the top level of it (and thus can't be eligible for NCAA play if they don't make it to the NHL). That's not also getting into overseas prospects which do make up a good chunk of the players. A few bigger name players do come out of the NCAA, but not many do (the most recognizable names are almost all from the CHL or overseas at this point). The NBA somewhat does, but only because it requires people to be one year removed from their high school class before they can be drafted, either by spending at least one year in college or at an overseas league (which leads to the "one and done" system in a lot of colleges). They also implemented a minor league team for every NBA team now as well. Baseball also largely doesn't (I forget the exact rules here, mostly because it's not brought up much), but that's also because of its extensive (very poorly) paid minor league system. The NFL is the only real US sport that needs the NCAA as free minors. The other three of the big four could survive without it, though NBA and MLB would have to make some relatively easy adjustments compared to the NFL. The problem is, and this is part of the whole overarching problem including that with MSU, is that these people hear about it, and they see two options: 1. Rock the boat, and potentially cause the entire house of cards to tumble down, but at what cost? 2. Do nothing. It is especially noteworthy that universities will bend over backwards for a star football player (and occasionally a star basketball player, depending on how big the CBB program is) because it's such a massive cash cow for them. And here's my surprise when they look the other way when a staff member does it:  . It's probably SOP to look the other way at this point for many universities, no matter who's causing it.
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As a whole, yes, it's likely that's the case, once you factor in every single sport at a school (beyond football and men's basketball, most every other sport does not do as well in terms of attendance and donors). Football brings in a metric fuckton of money, and, in a vacuum, it's all but certain to be profitable for the school. e: also what SKULL.GIF said.
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://twitter.com/kimberkoz/status/956206272877158401 It was at Michigan State University, not University of Michigan.
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The NCAA is a corrupt as gently caress organization. It only happens to be overshadowed by IOC and FIFA, which is why it tends to slide under the radar. A lot of what they promote is that most of the student-athletes will move on to careers other than sports, which, to be fair is true for a vast majority of the kids. Division-I, where almost all of the athletes that do move on to the pros come from, is only 351 universities. 305 are Division-II, and 451 are Division-III. The problem is the NCAA has draconian rules involving the students and money. A kicker got suspended by the NCAA because he was monetizing youtube videos of him kicking the football. Gods forbid you even pay these people, then the NCAA will come on you harder than anything else. Systematic rape and the protection of it? They look the other way and don't care, which, to be fair, is arguably outside of their purview (as previously brought up).
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Knock the slapfight off people.
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PT6A posted:Wouldn’t that be, in essence, destruction of every American university? I’m not saying no, but we better have a good plan to salvage the decent parts before pulling the trigger. The NCAA only cares about one thing: money. That's it. It sets "academic standards" but if you know what you're doing, you can offer bogus classes to the players, and as long as you offer them to other students, you're in the clear as North Carolina found out. Mind you, they look the other way when poo poo like this happens, but guess what, it doesn't involve money so they don't care.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yup. It also isn't even limited to the major sports either. If a college has a team of any sort that has a reputation they'll chase the gently caress out of any prominent high school student that is very good. Basketball, football, baseball, swimming, track, diving...doesn't matter. If the school has a respected team they want to keep it that way. Free rides for academically weak students, bullshit blowoff classes, anything they can get away with legally, and anything illegal they can manage to hide they'll do. I know of someone who managed to have a diving team built around him at a D-I school. Diving.
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