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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


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https://twitter.com/Hulchanski/status/956339720182788096

this goes here?

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Sep 7, 1997


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lookin forward to the 270% Canada Dairy Tarriff that makes 3.50 milk 9 loving dollars to buy

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Sep 7, 1997


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Dinosaurtrain posted:

in conclusion gently caress America because they are holding back our greatness in dairy

you got it backwards. read this article because its hilarious

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/milk-canada-us-trade-war

quote:

Meanwhile, just across the St Lawrence river in what free-trading Americans like to call Soviet Canuckistan, the dairy industry is thriving like never before – and like none other in the developed world. Family farms milking an average of 80 cows each have prospered under a heavily regulated system that supports prices at sustainable levels by restricting domestic overproduction and keeping imports at bay. In 2016, Canadian farmers received an average price of C$0.79 a litre for milk, compared with C$0.49 on average for US farmers.

Canadian milk is protected and thriving.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


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DariusLikewise posted:

The US government subsidizes diary farmers with 22.2 billion in handouts a year lmao

sounds like a waste of money just as much as us farmers dump out all their overproduced milk, its insanely american to waste money on anything

cont. from article:

quote:

As a recent visitor to Wisconsin, “America’s Dairyland”, where low prices are forcing the closure of hundreds of dairy farms a year, Muirhead said he encountered no resentment against Canada among local farmers. “The president of the Wisconsin Farmers Union told me that what they really wanted was a supply-managed system like ours,” he said..

why?

quote:

Supply management enjoys strong government support in no small part because the policy obviates the need to subsidize farmers directly in the manner of the US and the EU – the two greatest culprits behind the current world dairy glut.

“The system works so incredibly well,” said Bruce Muirhead, associate vice-president and professor of history at the University of Waterloo. “And the big thing about supply management is that it doesn’t cost the government a cent. Consumers pay the full cost of production.”

Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 20:49 on Jun 11, 2018

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


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Yinlock posted:

that's not actually a good thing bruce

its what makes Canada milk trade protected and the US wants it so bad but they call it communist canuckistan over their supply system so lots of mixed messages going on here, really just read the article, its so good.

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Sep 7, 1997


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https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1006629312571760640

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Dreylad posted:

casting the whole debate in psuedo-left wing terms is a nice touch but it does reveal the lack of serious economic arguments the right have concerning supply side management. they exist, but for some reason these days they don't want to use them.

trump could very easily carve out supply side managed dairy for his own country if he wanted to, but can't. tariffs in of themselves are perhaps the worst form of protectionism out there, and I would hope that any leftist politician that wants to engage in similar politics (as sanders also leaned towards anti-free trade rhetoric) would engage in serious government investment and allowing supply side management in the industries of concern along with any necessary tariffs.

thats interesting.

yea, Bernie Sanders has called for protectionism before only to protect the interests of the workers. He also wants to socialize a lot of industries and he's probably the most left leaning politician in the US which isn't saying much about our lovely political system right now. I think its just personally so hilarious to me that Trump is a manchild who is lashing out because of the Steel tariff that a retaliatory tariff on Dairy is literally hurting US where it is, like its a huge weak point to target. Like some people haven't grasped yet how big of a 'gently caress you' it is.

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