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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

exploded mummy posted:

why would you want to avoid Vince Russo

next thing you know there'll be a Brian France on a Pole race happening sometime in June.

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

CBJSprague24 posted:

A bunch of contrived changes to the now six-minute clock for repairs, any five roster pit crew members being allowed over the wall to repair a car, speeding on pit road to beat the pace car resulting in 15 seconds of lost repair time, as well as drivers being held two laps instead of parked for too many men over the wall in the process of trying to repair the car can be found here: https://twitter.com/bobpockrass

TL;DR:


NASCAR has released the following guidelines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRw

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

CBJSprague24 posted:

FS1 is running another of their Beyond The Wheel episodes featuring various 30-for-30 style shorts about NASCAR right now. These tend to be really good- the Dick Trickle one was the first.

They're talking about NASCAR in Japan right now. NASCAR, in Japanese, translates to "Eggplant Question Mark". :roflolmao:

That’s because it was written in Japanese as nasuka - nasu means eggplant, and ka is a common particle that shows a question. It’s written in a way where you won’t see it that way, and even Toyota’s global Gazoo Racing site uses “NASCAR” now.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

iospace posted:

The thing is I don't fault them for doing a west coast trip at the moment. The weather out there is more consistent than the east so you have less chance of snow coming by and loving the whole thing up. Also helps that those tracks are more southern than most of the East coast tracks, though they could do 'Dega as well.

(I like to joke that US racing follows a bell curve, the start and end of the seasons are in the south half of the country, whereas the middle is in the north).

*South West. And while IndyCar races at Phoenix in a month or so, thats about the latest it could possibly be held until late September because otherwise it’s way too hot. Vegas, Phoenix and that desert east of LA are all far too warm in June or July, so this trip makes sense. Logistically works too.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Hey NASCAR dudes, the incredibly well-regarded Dinner With Racers podcast has just released a four-part podcast miniseries on the life and death of Alan Kulwicki.

http://www.dinnerwithracers.com

Episode 93 - Alan Kulwicki - The Wisconsin Racer
Episode 94 - Alan Kulwicki - The NASCAR Champion
Episode 95 - Alan Kulwicki - The Untold Stories
Episode 95 - Alan Kulwicki - April 1, 1993 and Legacy

I’m going to start listening now, but the two hosts (racing PR specialist Sean Heckman and Acura World Challenge/IMSA driver Ryan Eversley) are great and provide insightful listening. Give it a shot.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

iwentdoodie posted:

It's just amazing to me, since sportscars in America were basically dead. And now it's bigger than ever, and somehow getting better and better.

What’s dead may never die. Seriously, go track the rise and fall and rise and fall and rise and fall of American sports car racing, and similarly its connection to the global/world championship too.

Even the “mishandling” of the prototypes has turned around into a position of strength. It’s amazing.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

shame on an IGA posted:

Excuse me sir, the Indy thread is thataway

excuse you, sir, things are much happier over in the Indy thread because we get to make fun of Danica and because

I T S M A Y, M O T H E R F U C K E R S

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

https://racer.com/2018/05/23/davey-allison-jeff-gordon-alan-kulwicki-roger-penske-and-jack-roush-elected-to-nascar-hall-of-fame/

Dave Allison, Alan Kulwicki, Jeff Gordon, Roger Penske and Jack Roush for the HoF this year.

After that Dinner with Racers special, I’m glad Kulwicki made it in this season. Allison too, thinking about the timing.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Frond posted:

I wonder why he didn't continue in Indycar. He was a decent driver.

He wasn’t getting regular rides, and it turns out he was just early to jump from Indy to NASCAR ahead of the boom times.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

iospace posted:

Couple things:

One of the nice things was Indy was standalone last night, so it probably got a bit more eyeballs than normal from US racing fans. A nominally NASCAR friend of mine sent me this:

https://twitter.com/MattWeaverAW/status/1005647593651793921

I honestly think Trucks should be, if it's a support race (for the main series anyway), 1:20 long. XFS 1:40, and main series, minus big races, 2 hours. The length of the races is half the problem. Stages are a band-aid for it by making the middle of the races at least worth something, but it's largely been "strategy has changed, that's it".

The problem for NASCAR - and a problem IndyCar faces sometimes - is filling up a day with running on-track at ovals. Only a couple of the ICS support series also run on ovals, which means three-day race weekends feel too long; there’s too much dead time. NASCAR might fill up the Friday and Saturday well if all three series are there, but without, it gets tricky. Which is why I think they compensate with long races for the live crowd.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

So long as it’s in addition to a GT3 or GTE program, plus Super GT, and maybe more, then it’s fine.

If that’s the only racing Supra, there will be riots.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

^ it wouldn’t really have added anything or any better passing areas. I’m not expecting much, especially considering the short versions of Sears Point and Watkins Glen they use already.

shame on an IGA posted:

The charlotte roval has now gone full retard.



As a sporty car watcher primarily, I see no problem here. Tall kerbs and tire stacks to enforce track limits isn’t exactly a new idea. And unlike the bus stop on the back straight at Daytona, there isn’t grass to help enforce the edge of the track.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


:vince:

This is so loving funny. They just got saw their next appointed golden boy get the win, then immediately the failson CEO steps on a PR landmine. Brilliant.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

iospace posted:

Oh good, we're split-era IRL now.

There it is.

And the worst thing about Furniture Row is they’re based in Colorado, which may be good for quality of life but it makes changing teams a whole lot harder for the rank and file guys. From last year’s Dinner With Racers with Cole Pearn it seemed like a big positive for the team. Unless it goes under...

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Dudley posted:

I wonder if there's the counterpoint that it does mean they can attract people that might not otherwise work in Nascar and hold onto them.

It seems like most of the racing industry is either North Carolina or Indianapolis, with a few scattered around the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois, Pennsylvania) but I don’t think any other major teams are that far west. So it’s not like they’re getting sports car people or IndyCar people, they’re a real exception being out there. And with how specialized auto racing can be, it is a selling point to be “the team out of the spotlight and in a nice place to live,” or for West Coast people who don’t want to stay in North Carolina.

If the team is wound up, of course the top people will be fine. I only worry more about how that will impact the lives of their general staff, especially those who would have to move more than halfway across the country for another job.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

kidcoelacanth posted:

False, Logano's normal scheme exists and I loathe it

The Pennzoil one is fine, the normal one is more a Shell scheme than anything.

And IndyCar should totally make the Indy GP road course race the throwback round.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Fauxhawk Express posted:

sadly the oval was damaged by the Fukushima disaster and I don't think they've done the necessary repairs

it's primarily just used as parking for events happening at the road course, so it's not like dead-dead, but I don't think Honda has done the necessary full inspection and repair on the oval afterwards. which is a shame, as IndyCar definitely needs another oval and a race in Japan again...

also rovals are DEFINITELY what NASCAR needs more of. become the American V8 Supercars we need.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Abu Dhabi will be hosting official tests. NASCAR's schedule ends 11/19, this is the day after the F1 season ends so it has to be close enough for Fernando and McLaren support team personnel to get there. And Bahrain's sovereign wealth fund is the majority stakeholder of McLaren.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

bigbillystyle posted:

Now knowing Bahrain's involvement with McLaren it makes sense but you'd think doing it in Texas or Mexico over the last few weeks would've been a logistically better option.

There’s a few different logistical points that suggest it would’ve been tough, especially for McLaren, never mind finding a location (I highly doubt they would’ve used the GP circuits the day after the race).

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Cygni posted:

Huge domino prepping to fall here. NASCAR makes offer to buy ISC outright:

https://racer.com/2018/11/09/nascar-makes-offer-to-acquire-international-speedway-corporation/

Going all-in with the racing business would seemingly contradict failson Brian France’s desire to buy an NFL team, which makes for interesting fallout from him getting arrested earlier this year...what a difference a few months makes.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


That article has more concrete details on what the new president did last weekend than what they mean by “new sponsorship model.” Just a promise it’ll be new and better for everyone.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

CBJSprague24 posted:

I've got a playlist of the 2013 Battle at the Beach races from Daytona lined up in Winter Heat if anybody wants to watch at least one of them in the next couple days.



e- Bob Jenkins has been approached twice to do the "throwback" part of the Southern 500 broadcast and has had to turn it down both times: http://www.keepit35.com/where-are-they-now-bob-jenkins/

Did I stutter? Let’s break it down

quote:

NASCAR will move away from the one titled sponsor approach (Winston, Nextel/Sprint, Monster Energy) for its marquee Cup Series to a variety of sponsors pouring money into the entire system — NASCAR, TV partners, member tracks and race teams.

Okay, so this is where they say what they’re going to do. Fair enough.

quote:

”We’re going to a new sponsorship model,” Phelps said.

Here’s where you expect details.

quote:

It’s really more to make the sponsorship buy as easy as possible. As an industry, we are fairly fragmented. You have the sanctioning body, different tracks, race teams, drivers and broadcast partners; all these different groups you can contract with as a sponsor.

“We are trying to bring all of them under one umbrella.

No examples of who, what, or when? This is straight “why”? And wouldn’t you want to do this when you and your partners can showcase this instead of floating it like a trial balloon?

quote:

If you go to, for example, a company such as Coca-Cola, you can sell them a one-stop shop. It’s an ease in doing business. If you do that, it’s going to foster more sponsor activity.”

Again: nothing about what this will actually look like for NASCAR. Does this mean a company sponsors The Chase and a handful of races and is Official _____ of NASCAR? Does this mean a company sponsors a track, its events there, and part of the season? Will this look like FIFA with global partners, the NFL, the NBA, or something different?

This is all what and why, there’s nothing in that section about how.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

NASCAR’s catching a whiff of the sports cars with behavior like this!

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Peanut President posted:

Black, Purple and Neon Green don't go together, whoulda thunk it

Looks like the 48 numbers and the Ally text are two different shades of yellow-green, which, lol.

It’s not a great design.

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