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Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer
The thing is we're not talking about an isolated part of a niche sport administration that colluded in this horror, it was large chunks of not just the athletic department but of the college institution itself.

And I'll agree that punishment should not be doled out by the NCAA alone, but holy gently caress when the institution itself goes out of its way to cover poo poo up, that should be grounds for a "you cannot participate in the NCAA" death penalty.

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Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer

General Dog posted:

Under that logic, should this apply for scandals that don't have anything to do with sports or the athletic department at all? (Not saying you'd be wrong)

Well, a solid and very visible line would be a good place to start from. I'd say:

  • 1) Any violation involving the jeopardy of the health (sexual, physical, mental, etc), finance (cash payments, scholarship, etc), and/or well-being (civil liberties, discrimination, etc) of a student athlete
  • 2) Any violation involving collusion within the team, staff, AD, the institution, and/or multiple institutions that affect or have effected student athletes in the manners listed in (1).
  • 3) Any violation involving the jeopardy of the health, finance, and/or well-being of non-athlete students by student athletes and/or AD staff in the manners listed in (1).
  • 4) Any violation involving the collusion within the team, staff AD, the institution, and/or multiple institutions that affect or have effected the NCAA recognized sport they participate in.

As for something the institution does that doesn't involve sports at all? We're talking about further unimaginable horrors that would cause a full blown peace out like "Duke campus legalizes rape" or "Harvard found to be actively sheltering Nazi war criminals out of spite".

Bootcha fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Sep 9, 2018

Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer
At what point do we consider this isn't a MSU problem so much as a NCAA problem?

Seriously, I'm all for a MSU death penalty, but something about this just screams the NCAA denying federal involvement just for the sake of the NCAA mechanics remaining in place without oversight, oversight being what the NCAA is supposed to do in the loving first place.

At what point do we shift from "Burn MSU to the ground" to "Burn the NCAA to the ground"?

Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer
That some welcome good news.

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