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I'm glad you're getting into the chaos of Naruto's worldbuilding 2 parts in. Like how difficult hiding porn in the woods is when everyone can disguise themselves as a log.
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TwoPair posted:But okay, I thought Naruto was the only guy that could do mass shadow clones but that guy had like 40. Was that just a thing for gameplay or did the author kind of not give a poo poo? Not quite true, technically speaking anyone can use Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu. What Naruto can do is produce 1000s of them. The way it works is it splits the users chakra up to make the Shadow Clone. For each clone the more Chakra used. The technique is dangerous because if you make too many you will kill yourself, but the technique itself can be used by anyone. It’s just that they’ll likely die if they do it wrong, Naruto due to being a Jinchuuriki and and already naturally huge chakra pool cannot Kill himself unless he makes like a trillion clones at one time. If it helps there are technically 2 versions of the technique, the normal version which can make up to 100 clones, and the oneNaruto uses which is the same thing but potentially makes 1000s of clones. Kakashi has made Shadow Clones in the past, as did Sasuke’s older brother Itachi.
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Feb 5, 2018 03:58
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Lord_Magmar posted:Not quite true, technically speaking anyone can use Mass Shadow Clone Jutsu. What Naruto can do is produce 1000s of them. The way it works is it splits the users chakra up to make the Shadow Clone. For each clone the more Chakra used. Ah I get it now, I thought Kakashi and the Uchihas were only able to do it because they stole it off Naruto with their eye magic bullshit. There being a smaller version that anyone can do makes much more sense. Well, as much sense as magic clones can make, I guess...
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Feb 5, 2018 05:53
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RareAcumen posted:I'm glad you're getting into the chaos of Naruto's worldbuilding 2 parts in. Like how difficult hiding porn in the woods is when everyone can disguise themselves as a log. I admit, I have a very small knowledge base about Naruto, but the feeling I always got is that it's like Power Rangers... where the entire economy exists to prop up the Ninja'ing. I mean, there's only seemingly one school (for Ninja's), and one major career path for EVERYONE (Ninja's!) The only reason other people exist is to give the ninja's something to do other than kill each other. Just like how in Power Rangers, Angel Grove's entire economy is built around reconstructing whatever the Rangers had just demolished in their weekly battle with a giant monster.
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Feb 5, 2018 06:23
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TwoPair posted:Ah I get it now, I thought Kakashi and the Uchihas were only able to do it because they stole it off Naruto with their eye magic bullshit. There being a smaller version that anyone can do makes much more sense. Well, as much sense as magic clones can make, I guess... Shadow Clones are a generic "this guy is pretty tough and powerful" indicator. If someone doesn't know it they're a wimp or have some super specialized but powerful secret technique. Calax posted:I admit, I have a very small knowledge base about Naruto, but the feeling I always got is that it's like Power Rangers... where the entire economy exists to prop up the Ninja'ing. The hidden villages' economies are built around ninjas, but each village is in an entire country full of normal people who occasionally hire ninjas.
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TwoPair posted:Ah I get it now, I thought Kakashi and the Uchihas were only able to do it because they stole it off Naruto with their eye magic bullshit. There being a smaller version that anyone can do makes much more sense. Well, as much sense as magic clones can make, I guess... Exactly, Naruto learnt the harder more deadly version first because he was tricked into stealing a scroll of deadly techniques from the Hokage by one of his teachers who was a traitor. I don’t think he ever learns the easier safer version either. It’s also barely brought up but the big use of shadow clones is they transfer memories when they are destroyed, so they’re good for scouting and so on. This is why most Jonin in Konoha know it, as far as useful stuff technically anyone can use it’s way up there. It’s just not all that powerful in a fight unless like Naruto you can do bullshit with several thousand of them. They are destroyed by any amount of damage after all, normally at least. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Feb 5, 2018 |
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Feb 5, 2018 09:06
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Lord_Magmar posted:Exactly, Naruto learnt the harder more deadly version first because he was tricked into stealing a scroll of deadly techniques from the Hokage by one of his teachers who was a traitor. I remember earlier in the show back before Shippuden- when Jiraiya was still alive- there was a thing about some chakra seal on Naruto's stomach messing him up for a while and it's why he was having so much trouble walking up trees and standing on water so that might be why he could never do the normal safe version. And also because he's just hurling chakra everywhere with no restraint like Popeye when he's got his spinach. Calax posted:I admit, I have a very small knowledge base about Naruto, but the feeling I always got is that it's like Power Rangers... where the entire economy exists to prop up the Ninja'ing. Can't really say that I remember much about Naruto either to fight you on that but I do know there're a couple of people just doing jobs occasionally that certainly weren't ninjas. And I know that because they hired Konoha ninjas to be bodyguards. Like the guy who wanted some muscle around so they could build a bridge or something and then Zabuza nearly drowned Kakashi.
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RareAcumen posted:I remember earlier in the show back before Shippuden- when Jiraiya was still alive- there was a thing about some chakra seal on Naruto's stomach messing him up for a while and it's why he was having so much trouble walking up trees and standing on water so that might be why he could never do the normal safe version. This is two separate things actually, Naruto had the seal for the 9-tails, which gave him access to it's mind-bogglingly massive Chakra and promptly shot his ability to control that Chakra right to hell from day one. This is why he sucks such poo poo at so many of the really simple techniques, like normal clones, he's got so much Chakra that he overloads the technique every time and the level of control he'd need to do them is literally impossible for a human to learn. The Chakra Seal that was messing him up was something Orochimaru did specifically, and it basically hosed up the connection between the 9-tails Chakra and Naruto's own, which messed him up even more than his Chakra is already messed up. More importantly for Orochimaru it stopped Naruto from accessing the 9-tails at all, which even he was not willing to fight at that time. Naruto can technically perform the normal Shadow Clone technique though, they're almost literally the same technique from memory. He just doesn't usually bother because again, they're almost literally the same technique and you might as well go big or go home. The most common time he uses the normal version is for the Rasenshuriken, because it's faster to use than the bigger version.
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Feb 5, 2018 15:26
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 UPDATE TIME!   Today, we continue our journey through Kakashi and Obito's flashback! As Team Minato continues their mission, Rin is captured Mahiru's allies and forced into interrogation! Kakashi won't let this get in the way of the mission, but Obito can't help but go and save Rin, eventually leaving on his own. Will these two ever be able to reconcile their differences? What will become of Rin? Find out all this and more in today's episode! Characters Introduced This Episode  Taiseki A ninja from the Hidden Stone Village. During the Third Great Ninja War, he captured Rin of the Hidden Leaf Village and took them prisoner. Eventually, he would also face off against her teammates, Kakashi and Obito. Taiseki was able to use a camouflage ninjutsu that erased his scent and shadow, as well as changed how light reflects off his body to turn completely invisible.  Kakkou A ninja from the Hidden Stone Village. During the Third Great Ninja War, he interrogated Rin of the Hidden Leaf Village using genjutsu. Eventually, he would also face off against her teammates, Kakashi and Obito. Kakkou used retractable arm blades to fight, making him the first Assassin.
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Feb 11, 2018 18:00
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It's really hard to take Obito's "death" seriously when he appears to be lying under a large piece of styrofoam. To be fair to the animators, I suppose it's kinda tricky to depict someone being half-crushed under a boulder when you can't show blood.
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Feb 11, 2018 21:06
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Really excited to see what horseshit they pull to explain how Obito did not in fact die.
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Feb 11, 2018 23:46
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Between this LP and Dragon Ball FighterZ, the last few weeks have been a great study in "very skilled artists and game designers doing their best with source material that gives them absolutely nothing to work with".
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Feb 12, 2018 01:30
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Dragon Ball is good though.
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Feb 12, 2018 01:36
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Oh man, glad to see this happening, this game is pretty awesome. I thought your Naruto LPs were donezo after 3.
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I have questions and it's only because there are people lurking in this thread that know the Naruto story that I'm even bothering to ask. https://i.imgur.com/XOosefA.mp4 Pretty much everyone can teleport, how are they suddenly unable to get somewhere under a time limit when the cave's collapsing? Also, you made fun of it last LP but Super Lightweight Boulder Jutsu should probably be taught standard with water and wall walking, with how much of an issue giant rocks are all the time. And on top of that, how was Minato late enough that Rin got kidnapped and Obito died when he can literally teleport and that's the thing he's famous for?
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Feb 12, 2018 13:48
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Because in most cases the literal teleportation is in fact just very fast movement, and more importantly requires some way to know where you're going. If it's somewhere you have never seen before you're very hosed. It's also based on being calm and actually focusing, which collapsing cave tends not to allow. The only true teleportation is what Minato does, everything else is less good than that and less fast/useful. The weird leaf/wind swell is because the normal teleport basically involves swapping yourself with something else, usually a log. Minato is late because for all that he's super famous for his teleportation technique it's actually really specific too, and during the Third Ninja War, which is when this sequence takes place in, he was basically spamming it everywhere which is why he ends up so hated by Stone, because he basically killed like half their ninja population on his own in several battlefields on the same day, because at a certain point he just handed the Kunai out to other Ninja. The way it works, which is slightly got into at the end of this episode, is that the Kunai has to be thrown for the seal on it to activate and ping Minato, who teleports to the Kunai. Technically speaking if he isn't in the area it actually has to hit something for him to teleport to it, that's how it marks where he should go and he appears holding it and then goes wild on the enemies nearby. When in person he just throws and teleports around with them. So basically the reason he was so late is nobody bothered to throw the special Kunai before that final point. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Lord_Magmar gave the in-universe explanation, but the real reason is narrative contrivance. Even the most powerful ninja can't save everyone, even in situations when they should be able to, etc. etc.
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UPDATE TIME!   Today, we find that Obito survived the cave-in! After being saved by a mysterious stranger, he begins his physical therapy in the hopes of one day returning to his friends. During his stay, Obito hears that Rin and Kakashi may be in trouble nearby, and so he leaves to help them. However, what he finds may make him wish he'd died back in that cave...
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Okay in the first couple of videos I thought the new cutscene style was weird but it could work, but around this video I realized that no, no it really can't. A bunch of what's going on here is just impossible to parse without some sort of motion. Also I appreciate the game using this face  during
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Feb 19, 2018 01:32
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And thus we reach one of bloodiest chapters in the entire manga. Like, good lord, when it came out, the amount of blood was crazy for Naruto.
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Feb 19, 2018 17:13
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I think it'd be hilarious if somewhere throughout this absurdly far-reaching 'bring people back from the dead arc' they brought back the guy with the really strong bones and Naruto still couldn't beat him.
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Feb 19, 2018 18:10
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RareAcumen posted:I think it'd be hilarious if somewhere throughout this absurdly far-reaching 'bring people back from the dead arc' they brought back the guy with the really strong bones and Naruto still couldn't beat him. Literally everything about the final arc is so much wasted potential, it's insane. U.T. Raptor fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 19, 2018 |
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Feb 19, 2018 19:12
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U.T. Raptor posted:If you mean Kimimaro, iirc he actually was one of the Edo Tensei zombies. I feel like he was one of the ones that was just kind of there and not really used for anything interesting, though. Aww, dammit. That would've been a great gag.
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Feb 19, 2018 19:44
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So, wait, did Kishimoto accidentally do the Pleasure Machine thought experiment as an actual important plot device to fight over for the rest of the story?
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Gologle posted:So, wait, did Kishimoto accidentally do the Pleasure Machine thought experiment as an actual important plot device to fight over for the rest of the story? Pretty sure it wasn't accidental but evidently yes.
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UPDATE TIME!   Today, the flashback ends and we return to the present, where Obito and Madara's plan is in full swing! Using some of their own chakra, they release the Ten-Tails, a monster created from the combined power of the Tailed Beasts. Naruto and Killer Bee, as the last two jinchuriki, stand up against this new enemy, but will their power be enough to stop it? Characters Introduced This Episode  Killer Bee Yo yo yo, Killer Bee doesn't need an introduction, fool ya fool! The vessel for the Eight-Tails, Killer Bee is an expert swordsman with a penchant for rapping. He may not be interested in his role as a jinchuriki, but he's a reliable ally when push comes to shove.  The Eight-Tails A demon currently residing in Killer Bee. Although they work together well, the Eight-Tails can't stand Killer Bee's rap music and constantly pushes him to take his job more seriously. Still, they can't deny Bee's incredible fighting prowess, and will always help when necessary.  The Nine-Tails A demon currently residing in Naruto. While they made have had their problems with Naruto before, his undying optimism and penchant for seeing the best in all people held turn the Nine-Tails into a valuable ally and friend. Finally, the two can work as one.  Hinata Hyuga A member of the Hidden Leaf Village’s Team Kurenai. Hinata may not be the most relevant character, but her confidence in Naruto can always help him get back up and keep fighting. Her family has probably the coolest magic eye power, the Byakugan, but unfortunately the Sharingan outclasses it so we don't get to see it in action much anymore.  Neji Hyuga A member of the Hidden Leaf Village’s Team Guy. Probably the most well-regarded ninja of Naruto's generation, his ability to restrict an opponent's chakra flow using his Byakugan techniques is a huge asset in battle. While he may have been cold and uncaring before, he's come to understand the meaning of teamwork and sacrifice.
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I don't even remember what the Bakugan does anymore, or how it's different from the Sharingan.
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Feb 25, 2018 19:47
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Gologle posted:I don't even remember what the Bakugan does anymore, or how it's different from the Sharingan. The Byakugan gives you magic sight powers, which manifests in a few specific properties: You can see through things and much farther than normal, see in all directions except for directly behind you, and see the flows of chakra in people's bodies. The last part is the foundation of the family's special fighting style, as it lets them directly attack their enemies' chakra and prevent them from being able to use it. The Sharingan gives an ever-escalating batch of ridiculous magic powers, starting with the ability to speed up reflexes and copy other people's attacks, and going up to being able to create perfect illusions in people's heads that cannot be dispelled, shoot magic flames that cannot be put out, and even retroactively change time so an attack that hit you is erased from happening, though to be slightly fair a lot of the more bullshit powers require the user to go through heavy trauma and will cause them to go blind if they don't steal another user's eyes first. Hilariously enough, when the Byakugan was first shown off in the comic people said it was the stronger of the two.
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Feb 25, 2018 20:25
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kvx687 posted:The Byakugan gives you magic sight powers, which manifests in a few specific properties: You can see through things and much farther than normal, see in all directions except for directly behind you, and see the flows of chakra in people's bodies. The last part is the foundation of the family's special fighting style, as it lets them directly attack their enemies' chakra and prevent them from being able to use it. Also the Sharingan gives you the ability to not have creepy all gray pupil-less eyes which is it's real advantage.
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kvx687 posted:even retroactively change time so an attack that hit you is erased from happening, This one at least permanently closed one of the user's eyes, and helped kick off an epidemic of Uchiha ripping each other's eyes out. But in the same chapter this was ability was invented, it was used by Danzo, who got around that by having like a dozen Sharingans implanted in one of arms (lovingly dubbed The Sharingarm), so he could do it a ton of times. 
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Feb 25, 2018 23:10
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I feel like Kakashi's in-game hair is more massive than his anime self's. Maybe it's just statically charged from all his lightning bullshit. Not gonna lie though, that finishing move was sick as hell. He really channeled Dio there.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I feel like Kakashi's in-game hair is more massive than his anime self's. Maybe it's just statically charged from all his lightning bullshit. It probably is the art-style to be honest. in 2D you rarely see so much of his hair style all at once. Normally it's only from the front or back which disguises the fact that his hair is like that all over and so ridiculously large, additionally when he has his headband up it pushes it inwards making it taller. Also yes sick as hell finishing move. Also I'm not a fan of the Fourth Ninja World War, but that's true of just about everything after Pein. I liked when Naruto wasn't a world saving story, or at least not to the ridiculous extent the power levels of characters got to. Also, also Neji's death continues to be very dumb. Not only would Naruto have survived the attack in the first place both he and Hinata should've been able to dodge it too. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Also Neji took an attack like that way back during the Rescue Sasuke arc and didn't immediately die. I think everyone agreed that Neji's death was just plain dumb when it happened.
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Really, Lee or Guy should've been zooming around kicking those javelin out of the way in the first place. At least he told Naruto his cousin's obsessed with him, with his dying breath. Also, I gotta say ninja power scales are so loving weird. Last game a mountain sized boulder was an army crusher and now here we are with some kind of hermit crab demon the size of the Leaf village and it's stymied by a narrow valley.
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Feb 26, 2018 06:12
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The weirdest part to me is they had to every ninja ever help with making that trap, it shrugs it off, but then the one red bandanna dude traps it between two giant walls alone? Who is that guy? Give him a promotion!
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HGH posted:The weirdest part to me is they had to every ninja ever help with making that trap, it shrugs it off, but then the one red bandanna dude traps it between two giant walls alone? Who is that guy? Give him a promotion! I know right? It didn't work forever but that was drat impressive. Also, I was really down with the Guruguru thing last episode cuz it explained how Obito was so loving strong but now he's just like that all the time? Him wearing a homunculus the whole time being the explanation was pretty cool.
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RareAcumen posted:Really, Lee or Guy should've been zooming around kicking those javelin out of the way in the first place. The Power Scales are literally the worst thing about end game Naruto, without a doubt. There's a particularly dumb moment that I'll get into when it shows up that basically proves they're dumb as hell. Honestly Pein should've been the most powerful character the show ever had, and everyone above him is too much in my opinion. Also Hinata once told Naruto she was obsessed with him with her dying breath, I don't remember if he actually heard it though. Apparently Naruto is only allowed to hear that Hinata likes him when it's from dying people.
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