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Fallout 2 is that Y2K episode of Family Guy, but thirty hours long

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You can help the Enclave by giving them the code.

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I played a frumentarii character and it was really drat fun. Sneak around, do the Armed for Bear challenge without being detected, take NCR quests and cock them up, sweet-talk your way into Hoover Dam and get into the armory, basically do all you can to sabotage the NCR without getting any heat on you.

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The Soviet Union was still around in 2077, and on good enough terms with the US that a Soviet diplomat was able to get into Vault 13.

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Internet Wizard posted:

I agree with every single word in this post. Silent protagonists, especially in the vein of Elder Scrolls and F:NV are just painfully bland to me. It really limited the level of engagement that I was able to achieve with the story in New Vegas. Games like Mass Effect and Alpha Protocol show that it is possible to allow a variety of character flavors to role play while still having a voiced protag. You just can’t discard the entire premise of the game like a petulant child and be a special princess.

OTOH, do you think they'd record every single PC line of dialogue again in the orc, khajiit and argonian male and female voices, or just cut them from being playable characters?



Any character flavor you like, so long as it's white male human.

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2house2fly posted:

They could just run the same voice through filters depending on your race

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I actually did do a Legion run, and if you can ignore the morals, it's really a very fun and fresh take on the game if you play a Frumentarii. Spend the whole game sabotaging the NCR, loving up their quests, do Armed for Bear and all without being detected.

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Arcsquad12 posted:

In terms of both objective and subjective outcomes, which fallout protagonist has had the largest impact on the Wasteland?

The Vault Dweller for saving Tandi.

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I like how the Enclave has its own civil war in 3 - Eden wants to continue the old plan from 2, while Autumn wants to have Project Purity working properly and use it to gather wastelanders to the Enclave as an actual revival of the United States government.

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4's protagonist mixed with 3's Enclave plot could've been cool.

You're the pre-war guy/gal who barely makes it to the Vault in time, then 200 years later the Enclave wakes you up and recruits you since you're a pure-human decorated vet, you go along because hey, the United States is still around. Get your setpiece fight in with Enclave Power Armor vs a rampaging Deathclaw, then get sent out into the Wasteland as a scout.

Then you could choose between going with Eden's plan (which is incredibly evil but at least not Chaotic Stupid since you're immune), Autumn's 'restore America', or going native with wasteland factions.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Arcade Gannon is cool and good and my friend, make sure to finish his personal quest before ending the game it's pretty great.

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Other than Underworld, none of the settlements in Fallout 3 are older than 80 years or so.

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tldr; "where's the farms?!"

"there are no farms because the water is poisoned, hence the main quest, Liam Neeson says this to your face"

"BUT WHERES THE FAAAAARMMMMSSS"

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Lt. Danger posted:

okay now someone defend the vampires

They're not vampires, they're cannibals whose leader has latched onto vampire lore.

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prometheusbound2 posted:

Fallout 3 asked us to take much of its dumb things seriously.

Ave, true to Caesar.

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"Hey Veronica, Christine's still alive!"

"..who?"

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout New Vegas have a very clear and intentional pattern of the Brotherhood becoming more and more irrelevant. If Obsidian had made Fallout 4 the Brotherhood probably would have just been one sad old man in power armor guarding a mostly empty library.

Hell, 3 fits into that just fine with Lyons trying to drag the Brotherhood into a new mission while the hardliners in the Outcasts are completely irrelevant to anything that happens.

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Gaius Marius posted:

Running around the Mojave with a dozen guys all trying to quip at the same time sounds like the last circle of hell.

Makes you wish for Lake Cocytus?

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Basically I want Deacon to be to Fallout what Roger is to American Dad.

He's a chicken, I tell you, he's a giant chicken!

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Also they replaced Nuka-Cola with BAWLS.

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MariusLecter posted:

Outside bet...

Fallout: New Skyrim

Todd already summoned enough power to port Skyrim to God of War, I'm not sure if he's recharged enough for that yet.

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Wolfsheim posted:

I always thought it was weird in F3 that they made it a minor plot point that the pip-boy goes on at age twelve and can never ever be removed until death and then if it's not done right it's unusable. Something that wasn't really a thing in the preceding games and was completely ignored by NV and F4 and doesn't even really make sense.

I think that was just Vault 101 because of its Orwellian overtones.

LashLightning posted:

I'm fairly sure there was a medieval game, possible jousting but it could be something else, that was popular and we'll known enough among the populace that no one bothered the right down the rules in detail that survived to this day - we know that the game was played, but not many specifics.

We also don't know what the thumb gesture was at gladiator games. It was so widely known at the time that nobody bothered to write down what the gesture was.

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Zelder posted:

it just feels weird to me that nukes are used in this game to get bigger monsters with bigger numbers to show up

https://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Courier%27s_Mile

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Zelder posted:

I'm looking forward to joining a sexual RP only server, finally experiencing fallout the way it was meant to be

Fallout 69

Pff, more like Vault 68

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I think somebody said buttcoin buttcaps.


Also it will never not be weird to me that people are mad the Enclave commander kills you in 3 if you give them what they want.

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I got the impression that almost all of those massive breakthroughs happened in the weeks, days, or even hours before the bombs started dropping.

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Playing as a Frumentarii was actually a cool and fun game.

Also you can call Ulysses dickless if you're a Legion lady.

"But yes, last I heard, you needed a weapon between your legs to carry one for Caesar."
"Is that why you quit?"
"What are you- hrm."

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I like how people wring their hands over killing the Brotherhood of Steel but are ok with killing Legion cause they're fascists

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SwitchbladeKult posted:

In New Vegas the BoS isn't going around murder raping everyone and is willing to change their ways, welcome peace.

https://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Follower%27s_outpost

Veronica's whole quest is about how the BoS is unwilling to change, and they only "welcome peace" so long as the NCR can stomp on them. The instant that goes away, they're back to conquering territory and being dicks about laser pistols.

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Berke Negri posted:

ncr if you jump through the hoops to get all the various minor factions onboard is pretty much optimal for everyone, boomers establish contacts with the outside world, Khan's go find a nice home of their own in Wyoming, bos integrates into society and helps protect the Mojave and not mug people of tech, followers prosper, novac prospers alongside the ghouls, freeside gets to remain independent, etc

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2house2fly posted:

It does if they pay him to do it. But I agree that sending seed ships to colonise the stars was more a blue-sky example of the possibilities than something he's actually planning. Which, much as I enjoy listening to House speak, is probably for the best. I don't want the capitalist pioneering space travel, I want to leave it to the communist workers' state he will accidentally create

The Soviet Union got vaporized in the War same as everybody else.

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Keeshhound posted:

Actually, it would be pretty fitting if it had turned out that in the fallout universe China succeeded in becoming a proper socialist state and were the unambiguous "good guys" in the conflict.

I don't think having a "good guy" in the war that annihilates the world is fitting at all.



And clearly it'd be the Soviet Union who succeeded, since they're never mentioned as fighting anyone and are friendly with all to the point a Soviet diplomat can get into Vault 13.

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Super Rad posted:

I like to entertain the idea that there were island civilizations beneath the notice of the nuclear superpowers that went un-nuked.

OwlFancier posted:

The mutant wildlife of an island with no native terrestrial mammals would be pretty funny.

20 foot tall enraged land parrot comes barreling out of the jungle and eats all your mutfruit plants.

jfood posted:

so yea, hosed up mutant birds would be a great addition to the series. if all the emus ever decided to go all at once, it'd be a wicked horde fight.

Alright, I know where this is going.

Fallout: Jurassic Park

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Wrr posted:

Make the plot and theme of the game about America annexing Toronto in the past and Why Imperialism is Bad and Wrong

People still side with NCR though?

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Hell, he actually doesn't give a gently caress about the whole cannibalism thing as long as it's done in a classy way that doesn't make him look bad.

Yes he does. If you let him know the White Gloves are eating people, he orders you to exterminate them.

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CharlestonJew posted:

yeah I don't recall any mention of NCR taxes being super crippling or anything, not sure what the deal was with that

They're probably super crippling when compared to the no taxes of the wasteland, and the NCR isn't able to provide security or utilities to match because they're gobbling up more land than they can actually control.

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

The people of New Vegas have a similar thought process to people in the real world: The Followers of the Apacolypse being able to greatly expand their operations and provide medical treatment to many more people? A functional power plant? A patrol system that guards the roads and prevents robbers and monsters from murdering you and taking your stuff? Good things :downs: The Taxes used to fund all these programs? BAD THING :argh:

NCR isn't supplying any of that, though. They're hostile to the Followers, they've got a theoretical genius working the nonworking power plant, and they don't patrol the roads at all on top of abandoning settlements because they're stretched too thin. Still charge those taxes though.

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Which circles back to the fact you can't target the balls in VATS anymore.

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