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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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Tunnel Snakes rule

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Halser posted:

For 15 minutes until you notice Todd's hand is dangerously close to your wallet

I haven't played it in a year but there never seemed to be a point to spending money on Fallout Shelter, even after adding in the parts where you can actually explore stuff.

RBA Starblade
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Every single thing I could have possibly done that would lead to a victory state in The Rig lead to a bsod. I hate FO2.

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Megazver posted:

Ulysses is a disgustingly over-written, obtuse, and the worst example of Chris Avellone believing his own hype and crawling up his own rear end. I had to consult the wiki after playing the final DLC to figure out what the gently caress all that word diarrhea was about.

Lonesome Road really needed an option to explain to Ulysses what couriers actually are.

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amigolupus posted:

Ambitious, overextends itself, has some serious game development problems at its core... So what you're saying is that Bethesda is the NCR? :v:


Or better yet, an option to tell Ulysses he's got the wrong person.

Speech 100: I'm Courier 3 where am i

RBA Starblade
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I feel like another big issue with FO3, NV, and 4 are that they aren't as gross as FO1 or two an extent 2. There's nothing really like the floaters or Master. Centaurs I guess but that's really it. They play down everything else for the wasteland, which is a problem, since there isn't actually a wasteland anymore if we keep going forward in time with the games.

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Wolfsheim posted:

I'm curious if DOOM would be as sleek and fluid as it is if they had to render a static open world that keeps track of every coffee cup you decide to hoard. I suspect that the reason we don't see any real Bethesda competitors in the open-world cup-hoarding genre is because of how hard it is to keep track of all that bullshit in-engine. Like, Witcher 3 may come the closest, but it doesn't do that thing Bethesda games do where you can walk into some guy's house, steal the forks (and only the forks) and start knocking all the food off his dinner table, then go home and make a shrine out of all your stolen forks in the shape of a giant ur-fork.

And then shout them all over the room

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Fintilgin posted:

I seem to remember Avellone saying something about this being part of the reason for Lonesome Road. In his head canon everyone gets nuked, thus 'resetting' the Wasteland. Maybe I imagined that... ?

It came up in the other thread but it was mentioned that he wants the world to be renuked to solve that issue. I think it'd be more interesting if it was just somewhere where a civilization sprung up then declined or was destroyed through a normal war. Apocalyptic in the sense of the Roman empire collapsing.

Hell, you could do it in the Legion. :haw:

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Internet Kraken posted:

I didn't give Old World Blues much of a chance though. By the time I got to it I was too burnt out on the gameplay to keep going. Meanwhile Dead Money's gameplay was just abysmal so the less said about that the better.

I really liked Dead Money's mechanics the first time I played it then steadily hated them more each subsequent time.

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Internet Kraken posted:

The casino is just terrible. Insanely bad. I have no idea why they thought sneaking past invincible holograms that instantly smite you was going to be fun.

My favorite about the casino is going down the maintenance stuff to the vault because the game occasionally forgets what 'range' is and kills you by radio anyway.

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Neurolimal posted:

I mean, you don't know the courier's gender or race beforehand, bit odd to default to White Male.

The game does that.

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An eight hour game where you don't do anything only at the end the protagonist to Fallout New Vegas 2 shows up to pickpocket you and leave. You explode because he put a grenade in your pants.

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Freaking Crumbum posted:

"Will you help to stop the Red Hat raiders? They're the most feared gang in the wasteland!"

and you get a dialogue prompt like:

Agree / Disagree / More Questions / Monkeycheese Bullshit Option

and you pick "Agree" and then your avatar says something like:

"I'll help you stop the Red Hat raiders, but only because you're such a pathetic bitch that can't solve the problem on your own!"

and I'm left sitting there thinking holy poo poo that is not at all how I would have wanted my character to respond.


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Wolfsheim posted:

With all the DLC chat, I went ahead and added a DLC section to the OP. Let me know if I missed anything! And I'll just pre-emptively say it: gently caress you guys, the Pitt was good.

The Pitt rules but it sucks a lot that if you manage to successfully fight and defeat the slavers in the foundry that you can't just force your way to Ashur and win in an alternate way that way; it's one of the hardest things to do in the game and fun as hell to improvise your way to victory but the game just puts up a wall and says "no stop it, do the quest".

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Yeah, Oblivion had a Shadows Over Innsmouth quest that was pretty good too. Of course, in Oblivion everyone had the Innsmouth look. :v:

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MikeJF posted:

Plus Houston DLC for the obvious joke. "Man, the nukes really did a number on this place" "Oh, Houston wasn't nuked! It was just like this."

Fallout Michigan and Fallout Florida write themselves, really

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bango skank posted:

Bethesda are going to develop the most engrossing world yet, full of unbelievable sights and extraordinary adventure, and we'll never see any of it because the player character dies within 24 in-game hours after leaving the vault due to acute radiation poisoning.

I've been wanting one right after the war ends for a while now. It's getting dumb how Bethesda keeps going forward and things are still hosed, and on the West side there's little past what New Vegas did to really go.

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hawowanlawow posted:

My God, imagine a Bethesda game with a new engine that would let you do things such as:

use KBM and xinput at the same time

walk through doors while holding the walk/run key

walk around on moving platforms

basically the year 3000

Walk into a building without a loading screen

Have more than eight people in a room

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Sheen Sheen posted:

You get a bonus if you get some of the skeletons to hug each other, and an even bigger bonus if another player walks by, sees the hugging skeletons, and says "wow, what amazing environmental storytelling!!!!!!" (This is where the multiplayer aspect comes in)

You're graded at the end of the round based on how many terminal entries you made and how many sodas you chugged so you could shove the bottlecaps into a safe.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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The only reason I'd be interested in an online survival Fallout is so I can ensure that the Tunnel Snakes rule.

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Discendo Vox posted:

I just wanted dialogue options at the end of Lonesome Road that no, seriously, Uly, you got the wrong guy. I was the courier that delivered mutfruit to The Divide. I have no idea who sent them this whatever detonator thing, that sounds incredibly dangerous.

I just want to be able to explain to Ulysses what couriers actually are.

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Vavrek posted:

Right before? The bombs dropped in 2077.

(I like the Northern Africa comparison.)

Infrastructure Week finally ends just as the bombs fall

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HFCS posted:

I want the intro to go like this: it's Reclamation Day. Vault opens as planned. Everything outside is horrible as all your vault people file out and immediately get assaulted by poo poo World they are ill equipped to survive in. You--the rear end in a top hat--turn right back around and seal yourself in--and them out, leaving them to fend for themselves. Which would explain why there's this five-year gap between it supposed to be opened, and it actually being opened. Perhaps the "abandoned" vault is because you literally abandoned them to their fate. Only leaving when you run out of chocolate pudding.

I'd love for the Player Character to just be a dick from the beginning with no set positive morality. Does your time stewing alone (or with a small group of ppl who stayed inside with you) change you for better or worse? And will the surviving people you left outside remember your face and hold a grudge? (probably.)

Also, wonder if there will be a Left 4 Dead type of group play, where even if you don't have enough players to fill the team, the rest is filled in with some mildly intelligent AI that gets the job done. (this is all assuming it's not what everyone's fearing/complaining that it will be.)

This is a great idea. Every moral choice you have to make from then on is on a scale of "dickhead" to "rear end in a top hat".

RBA Starblade
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I played as a punchmage with a velociraptor pet in eso, it was pretty fun.

RBA Starblade
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It's hard to emphasize just how perfectly Fallout 3 captured the essence of the DC metro: filthy, broken, constantly on fire and full of mutants.

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Tenzarin posted:

I kinda expect them to make another fallout first because if they tried to release another fallout 4 type game(aka a bad game) as the sequel to skyrim, they would lose some of their crazied fans. Remember elder scrolls before skyrim? How many people actually played them?

Wasn't Oblivion a best seller on 360?

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Fallout 2 BSODd on me every time I did something on The Rig that could feasibly lead to me seeing the credits. Fallout 1 is good but I don't think I could play it again now. It was dated even back when I played through for the first time.

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Dan Didio posted:

Fallout: New Vegas is a game that is comprehensively designed by people that love designing and building games and Fallout 3 and 4 are designed and built by people that comprehensively loves their own ideas.

Let's ask Ulysses about ideas

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Dan Didio posted:

Do you have a problem with the character 'Ulysses', RBA Starblade?

Besides Ulysses himself being a dumbass no. What I mean is that New Vegas is literally all about a few key ideas and concepts culminating in the final encounters in the main game and the DLCs being a debate about them. You had it backwards.

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Dan Didio posted:

I'm genuinely confused by what you mean, unless you're seriously suggesting that the development of Fallout: New Vegas involving people having ideas is some kind of revelation, in which case, lol.

quote:

Fallout: New Vegas is a game that is comprehensively designed by people that love designing and building games and Fallout 3 and 4 are designed and built by people that comprehensively loves their own ideas.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by Bethesda (and not Obsidian) loving their own ideas?

RBA Starblade
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It's mostly just because that's the series aesthetic now, as little sense as it makes.

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buglord posted:

yeah because the audio logs in fallout say signature writing and ultra precise machinery matching that isnt at the stage yet

you can also go the extra mile and have humans say a codeword that synths cant say. sorta like La Le Lu Le Lo / Patriots. Fallout series as a whole has pretty bad writing because of gaping plot holes like these.

"Password?"
"HATE NEWSPAPERS"
"Welcome, friend"

RBA Starblade
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The guy from FO4 was a vault dweller for like five minutes as far as he was aware

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Tenzarin posted:

Can't wait for the first bethesda fallout where the tutorial isn't in a vault so they can be applauded as expanding the fallout brand.

The real vault was America all along

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Neurolimal posted:

It's still really bizarre that they ended up cutting the entire "overthrow Arthur" questline. A lot of the BoS's ridiculous behavior in 4 makes more sense if you consider that Arthur is supposed to be the morally grey hard-edged option to a Danse option.

Fallout 5's going to be a little weird if the BoS somehow aren't the bad guys. They're now the Enclave - they're anti-mutant, a nation state ruled by militaristic order, literally built on the Enclave's back, conquer and strip settlements for parts, and openly hostile to anyone who disagrees. It's background in 4 but the whole reason they're how they are right now is "the hardliners murdered all the good npcs from FO3".

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Berke Negri posted:

isnt that what the BoS always has been outside of fo3

Yes but now they're a nation and conquering things

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Apr 28, 2008

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All this talk has me playing FO4 again and despite doing nothing since last time I booted it the game's running like poo poo now. :argh:

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

Hate to tell you this but that describes literally all software ever. All of it is terrible and built on ruins.

All of it.

It's a miracle most commercial software runs at all

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OB_Juan posted:

I like that the game starts out with a nice outdoor area, and you get to nuke it into the Fallout Wasteland.

I like the implication that the Great War was just goons trolling each other into the stone age.

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quote:

Actually what we want is another New Vegas, which was actually good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWu-32hR4GY&t=36s

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