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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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fallout shelter is good

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i got the horse armor for free

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i would very much spend money on HD remakes of FO1/2 in the same mold as the ones the old infinity engine games got though

even with stuff like high resolution mods for the old games there's stuff that could be significantly improved on (navigating the inventory in the old games is a real nightmare these days)

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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let me build my reachman casino in The Elder Scrolls 6: High Rock, todd

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Fargin Icehole posted:

Love the thread title. gently caress No Mutants allowed

apologies, you're in it

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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XCOM style squad tactical rpg where you play an NCR ranger outfit going behind enemy lines /Baja California

Or to keep it east coast revisit capital wasteland in XCOM style squad tactical rpg where you play an BOS knight outfit doing missions around clearing out remaining super mutants/different raider or slavery factions, fleshing out more what happened to the BoS between 3 and 4

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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dont be mean to me posted:

This wasn't even true in Fallout 1.

Yeah even of you went back to some time shortly after the bombs dropped it would probably be the case that there's even more of that sci fi stuff lying around

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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There's plenty of Wasteland U S A for the developers, whether Bethesda or some other third party brought in, to keep pushing out farther from California or (still pretty lovely areas) of the Commonwealth or Capitol Wasteland so I don't think we'll ever hit the point where everything is too organized that life is now boring and normal

I would like for them to kick off in a totally different direction though for FO6, though my gut tells me it'll probably be something like New York City

Revisiting the Mid-West to finally nail down what's the now canon with the MWBrotherhood and get away from West Coast/East Coast thread lines would be interesting

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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im a huge fallout 4 fan and even ill admit the game really could have used more optional lore dump conversation options or lengthy computer terminal entries for those that wanted to to comb over

maybe not like, dragon age inquisition level where im spending hours just refreshing dialogue options with everyone in between actually moving the story along but some sort of middle ground

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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oblivion is pretty notorious but it did also come out in 2006 when few games were voiced nearly as extensively

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Wolfsheim posted:

Not necessarily; Automatron adds the Mechanist hordes and Rust Devils to the random encounter spawn pool, which can cause some large and out of control battles when they show up in certain areas. I'm a fan of it, though.

Only once you start the Mechanist questline, but as you said, who wouldn't want that? Also I like A-da as a companion and the storyline is short but a neat questline I think.

The workshop DLCs are all completely ignorable if you don't do any settlement building, but do add some nice QoL additions for them if you're already getting the GOTY.

Nuka World is...not great? In the sense none of its parts feel like it really gels together well. I've never done a raider playthrough so as a "good guy" run it's basically a lot of interesting set pieces to slug it out with high end enemies and some interesting equipment but everyone's pretty much an rear end in a top hat and at the end dead. You can also just ignore it completely if you want.

Far Harbor as everyone says is really great and definitely the highlight of the game.

Of course if you do have the dlc on you can use mods to introduce the various standard guns and stuff into the Commonwealth loot tables so there's that too.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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I think the unofficial patch takes care of that at this point, I know my last playthrough like four? or so months ago it wasn't so noticeable but when it came out it's like they replaced all the raider gangs in the commonwealth.

Also replaced all my loading screen slides as well.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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It's $35 for GOTY on steam but that's a pretty good value for something you could just gently caress around with for 50-100 hours with good gameplay and graphics in my opinion

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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fo4 engine is probably the first iteration that's actually reliable

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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In my opinion FNV has much, much better writing and attention to detail while FO4 is generally a just much better for the actual gameplay experience and also a big pretty world to get lost in

I personally never had an issue with the voiced protagonist but I only played as female sole survivor, never really done a lengthy male one so can't compare but I thought Courtenay Taylor did a good job

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Internet Kraken posted:

Fallout 4 has better gunplay but that's about it. The settlement mechanic was fun for me but that's the only other thing I enjoyed in the game. Everything else was worse than New Vegas and even Fallout 3. Between the voice protagonist, limited dialogue, and simplified character building I didn't feel like I could really roleplay anymore. Every Sole Survivor ends up feeling the same, which kills my desire to replay. So it was fun once but I have no desire to revisit it. Meanwhile I replayed Fallout 3 and New Vegas several times.

I love all the Fallout games except for the lovely outsourced bawls-tie in marketing playstation one Interplay poo poo out that no one likes but I really can't say I would prefer Fallout 3 over Fallout 4. Fallout 3, in it's time was good, and did a solid job rebooting the franchise after Interplay went to poo poo, but like Oblivion Fallout 3 is kind of in a weird gameplay/graphics/performance/general all around limbo all these years later

I can get the playing very different characters things but even in FO3 (Which basically left you a cipher to fill in your own details but was basically light side good or kick puppies dark side) or FNV (where I always went either NCR/Yes Man) I could have very "different" play throughs but still stuck with a very kind of similar character, but enjoyed replaying the game nonetheless. This is basically how I operated in my FO4 playthroughs too

Never could stomach a Legion playthrough. One time I really tried but by the time I get to Nipton I'm just like nah kill em all

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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I definitely know countless friends that in games like KOTOR1/2 will go dark side for the kicks of it but can probably count on one hand with fingers to spare people I know (or admitted to) going full Legion in FNV, they're really so despicable its hard to stomach them

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

Yeah, I don't hate it. I had some fun with Fallout 4 but it's just...lacking. It also feels more like a beta than an actual release. It's so buggy

fallout 4 is like the most stable bethesda game ever where are you getting this

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Look, poo poo went down while the Sole Survivor was in China.

Alternatively the bar exam can do weird things to people

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Neurolimal posted:

Considering Obsidian remains an independent studio, I wonder if there were any shared IP issues that necessitated ignoring NV ideas. Obviously there's likely some bad blood on Obsidian's side, but AFAIK Bethesda devs have no reason to dislike Obsidian or NV.

i think bethesda or obsidian hating each other only exists in the fevered imagination of bitter fallout fans

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

You don't really need to apologize for that since it's what the games (outside of Fallout 3) think too.


and even in 3s defense there's a lot going on where there's a lot of disagreement in the East Coast BoS leading to the Outcasts and such (who eventually, by FO4 time, won over the dispute)

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Nasgate posted:

Morrowind, much like Oblivion and Skyrim are all based on Daggerfall and Arena. Like, iirc they added almost zero new lore books to Morrowind. And Kirkbride didn't come on until Redguard. So no, you're thinking of Ted Peterson and Julian Lefay. Kirkbride literally does TES fanfiction.

redguard+morrowind (especially the Pocket Guide to the Empire Vol. 1) are actually considered the "beginning" of what most people think of TES now actually

arena and daggerfall had a lot of the bits that would go on to get fleshed out (race, province names, most of the aedra/daedra ended up being established in them though not generally as they were re-imagined as in TES3) but other that it was just a lot of kind of homebrew D&D stuff

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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frajaq posted:

Don't worry rehashed arguments are all we have until this year's E3 and Bethesda gives us something to shitpost about

the thread is basically NMA so yeah it is w/e

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Arcsquad12 posted:

So what's the plus/minus on Bethesda's obligatory "faction obsessed with the old world" being a society of Confederate army cosplayers this time?

west virginia wasn't in the confederacy

we will be spending 76% of our time mining coal to run our power armor though

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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The vault is called vault 76 btw

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i think it's going to be good

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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eonwe posted:

im not going to lie, im going to buy whatever fallout they poo poo out

same

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i like 4 much better than 3 but not going to lie

was kind of really hoping for that speculation of a fo3 remaster to be true because its a rough game to get running on windows 10 these days and i'd love to do a full playthrough again some day

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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eso is great

this wont be an mmo though because no one is making mmos anymore

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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HoneyBakedMAN posted:

Settlement building was the worst. Who enjoys clicking on every drawer to collect junk for making roof shingles.

fallout 4 was pretty great at rewiring my brain to not give a poo poo when I come across the 300th gun in a dungeon because I already got those but I open that one cabinet of elmers wonderglue or stumbled across a abandoned factory for aluminum tv dinner trays and my heart skips a beat

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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A Sometimes Food posted:

Cause Bethesda's whole thing is taking the simplest stereotypes and running them into the ground (while avoiding anything to do with race or religion).

what does this mean in the context of fallout

neither of those things were an thing in fallout 1 and 2 either

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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and when they were they weren't...great (san fran in 2)

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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calm down we've all put 500 hours into fnv

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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isnt that what the BoS always has been outside of fo3

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Tenzarin posted:

The BoS in fallout 3/4 are actually a splinter group from the west coast BoS(I guess Fallout tactics is canon after all). So it is kinda a hackneyed attempt to separate the two. Something that I learned from watching either a fallout 3 is good or fallout3/4 are bad video on youtube, one of that those. There's alot of videos like that.

p sure midwestern brotherhood has been referenced in 3/NV/4 but they're like half canon

we know they exist but the exact details of the plot of FO:T has been handwaved away until we get the inevitable Fallout: Chicago

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Jack2142 posted:

I dunno the BoS turning into an evil military dictatorship nation state I think is a reasonable direction to turn. Fallout 3 & 4 felt like the conceit of Fallout 76 of its twenty-thirty years after the bombs dropped... not like a century and a half or more. Anyway them stepping into the void and building a country seems like an alternate reaction to the New Vegas Brotherhood. Sure they could sit in the bunkers and die off... or they could evolve and challenge for supremacy.

isnt one of the endings of fallout 1 was the BoS going whole hog and turning into an evil dictatorship terrorizing the wastes from rediscovering any tech

so basically the NCR was able to keep them in check while even if you kill off the BoS in fo4 that window is probably already long gone for the east coast

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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2house2fly posted:

Don't they also periodically offer mods for free? Presumably you can keep the mod when it goes back to paid, though maybe not. Do the paid mods basically function as DLC? If you buy two paid mods that affect the same stuff are conflicts handled automatically?

they're basically paid dlc that's sometimes contracted out to known modders and sometimes made by Bethesda

it uses the new .esl extension which is like mini mods so unless a mod is modifying something dealing with it shouldn't effect anything (AWCR or whatever it's called didn't play well with all the armor paint job CC stuff but that's already been patched for example )

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i don't think it's a plot hole that the guy running the evil underground cabal of scientists and the main antagonist of the game is a dick

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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the railroad only mind wipes synths if they ask to, but its given as an option don't seem to want to deal with the trauma of their synth lives

you average runaway seems to mostly be the servant synths sent up to scav or work the institute doing menial/dangerous labor though there is one AWOL courser we meet (well 2 if you count the guy from fallout 3)

dont be mean to me posted:

I thought the originals of the people that got subbed out with synths were used for the Institute's super mutant stock, at least until the super mutant program collapsed.

correct

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