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Am I the only one who didn't really like Fallout 2? I came to the original years after new vegas, but with the first game I was drawn in immediately. Every new town and village had interesting quests and people to interact with. The main plot was great and they nailed the atmosphere. Fallout 2 smoothed over a ton of the control problems I had with the original, but the whole tone was way to filled with lovely pop culture references. The game seemed way too long, there were so many towns I entered did one quest and then left. The opening was awful, and by the time I got to San Fransisco I was just begging for the game to end.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2018 03:43 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 17:15 |
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I might as well ask here while you guys are talking about it. Do the KOTOR games offer anything to someone who is at best lukewarm on the starwars franchise.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2018 00:31 |
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JawKnee posted:eh... I really like both of them, and I'm not much of a star wars fan. Do you actively dislike star wars? I find Star Wars to be pretty dull, the original trilogy are good movies but the prequels are boring and the new ones are trash. If it's just a janky mass effect with a star wars paint coat I'll probably stay away.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2018 01:12 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:KOTOR has one of the best plot twists in the history of everything. If you don't know what it is play it for just that. It's like the one thing I know about it Arcsquad12 posted:KOTOR 2 is Chris Avellone's thirty hour long lecture series on why The Force, Jedi and Sith are all terrible ideas that only cause human suffering. This sounds terrible, the force is pretty dumb, but Avellone is one of the most self indulgent writers I've ever seen in games and him lecturing me for thirty hours sounds hellish.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2018 01:57 |
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Speaking of new Vegas, does anyone actually go to westside ever? Over six playthroughs I think I've been there once. It's just such a strange boring area, am I missing something.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2018 22:00 |
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The legion is pretty annoying because their goals and motivations make almost no sense when you start to think about it, and the whole thing rests on a cult of personality, but it never acknowledges how hosed the legion would be without ceaser. Fallout 2 is a much much bigger version of fallout one there's way more stuff in every way, personally I find it detrimental to the whole experience, but in terms of gameplay I think it'd be much harder to get stuck, and there's a bunch of UI and game play improvements to make the whole thing smoother
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2018 12:34 |
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Dude you've already said you've never played fallout 2 and you never got past the first supermutants in the first fallout. Why the gently caress do you think you get to decide what is and isn't Canon.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2018 10:34 |
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Except you aren't a vault dweller in fallout 3. How did you miss the one single plot twist in the game.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 08:11 |
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The vampires are no dumber than half the poo poo in fallout 2.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2018 12:43 |
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Fallout 2 has a bizzare quality curve where the first few hours and the last few hours suck. And the middle of the game is alright. Everything after San Francisco was a mistake.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2018 18:05 |
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Avellone was responsible for the greiving mother right? Cause that was some of the worst most overwrought writing I've ever seen.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2018 18:07 |
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They should've either just included all the Wild Wasteland stuff into the game or just cut it. Right now It's a waste of a trait.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2018 21:08 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I mean the traits in general are designed to be relatively neutral in their overall effects, soooo It's the only one that it's possible to go through the whole game and never be affected by it. The others all have a gameplay or role playing purpose
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2018 21:19 |
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The settlement system doesn't appeal to me personally but if I was younger and had more free time I bet I would've spent hundreds of hours on it. Also the weapon variety sucks but the actual shooting finally feels good. Maybe for fallout five Bethesda can poach whoever the gun nut who worked on new Vegas was so we don't end up with a bunch of lovely pipe weapons.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 20:50 |
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I never really had a problem with the reloading bench. Just break down all your ammo and turn it into match rounds.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 20:59 |
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frajaq posted:Kinda...? From what I've seen they're only available if you gently caress things up for everyone else, while the Yes Men was always a choice from the get-go I don't think that's true. I'm pretty sure you can always go in with them.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 23:42 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Voice acting is expensive but if you stick with industry standards rather than shelling out for one big name guy you can stretch your budget. Just look at how many notable VA actors new Vegas has. Not the largest names in the industry but reliable and versatile actors regardless. New Vegas had a ton of celebirty VA's. And to be honest most put in a pretty piss poor performance. Controversial opinion but I think Bethesda has legitimately better voice direction, Liam neeson and Pat Stewart didn't knock my socks off, but they put in a performance which is more then I can say for Chandler or Trejo.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 20:05 |
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Maybe you guys are right. I think New Vegas is way more inconsistent though. House is great but, Veronica and Benny are awful.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 21:18 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Veronica gets some good stuff, but it swings back and forth from conversation to conversation. Yeah I brought up that I thought New Vegas had poor voice direction before. Veronica is another example she has no idea how to keep it consistent between lines. I also think Ceaser is underplayed.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 21:45 |
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Mooktastical posted:I do wish they'd had Felicia Day back in the studio after the release of Dead Money, though. Never being able to tell her that Christine is still alive is a wasted opportunity.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 21:53 |
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It would've actually have been really hosed up if you reunited Veronica and Christine. Imagine Veronica's horror at seeing that Christine's clearly gone through a ton of torture and some harrowing combat and when she opens her mouth a completely different voice comes out. It would be spooky as hell. While were talking about how the DLC and main game interact was I the only one who wished that Follows Chalk could've been a companion in the main game. It would've been interesting to see a true outsider react to seeing the Mojave for the first time.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2018 22:47 |
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I must be the only person in the world who hates new Reno and every thing that happens there. If they wanted to make a gamgster rpg they should've made that instead of cramming that into my post nuclear role playing games.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 08:51 |
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The enormity and random dumb poo poo is everything I hate about two. At least it's not San Francisco
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 10:59 |
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The concept of the institute is cooler than anything in new Vegas, even the buildup to them is great. They're slowly replacing key figures to control the Commonwealth from the shadows for some inscrutable means, incredible super techonology that means they can strike at any time and any place, it's rad. The loving execution is...so...loving bad. The second you step foot in the institute all the gravitas is shattered and your left wondering how these chuckle fucks have even remembered how to keep breathing.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2018 05:27 |
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Running around the Mojave with a dozen guys all trying to quip at the same time sounds like the last circle of hell.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2018 14:02 |
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Azhais posted:Ian forever ruined companions in Fallouts for me, I don't take them anywhere anymore I got through all of Fallout 1 with Ian and Dogmeat only for them to die in the military base walking back and forth through the damage force fields. I couldn't even give enough of a poo poo to reload and save them at that point.
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# ¿ May 3, 2018 20:00 |
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You'd think places like the NCR would be more appreciative of ghouls. If nothing else the pre war ones must be an incredible fount of knowledge that otherwise might be lost.
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 16:40 |
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Pyromancer posted:Lonesome road was worse, turning the game to linear sequence of fight arenas with villain monologuing at you over radio. I liked the Verticality and general setting of Lonesome Road. The whole story though waffles between alright and showcasing all the worst of aspects of NV's writing.
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 09:38 |
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I hope it's intended that the Legion doesn't resemble the real Rome in a single way other than the cosplay they wear.
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# ¿ May 17, 2018 13:25 |
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Does the restoration patch add quality content. Because I almost feel like replaying fallout 2 but I also already think it's massively bloated.
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# ¿ May 22, 2018 04:43 |
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Yeah until he decides to kill himself by running into the same damage forcefield over and over again.
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# ¿ May 28, 2018 23:49 |
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Mantis42 posted:All the NPCs have only one canned line, "I'm walkin' here!" and they spout it nonstop. The first game where the kill everyone route is the correct and morally good route.
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# ¿ May 30, 2018 02:15 |
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It's really weird that the divide was both a major city, an important supply route, and a battleground between caeser and the NCR and yet nobody has anything to say about it in the main game.
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# ¿ May 30, 2018 13:29 |
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marktheando posted:So was it just me that really enjoyed the settlement building? If I had as much free time as I did as a kid playing fallout 3 I probably would've loved it.
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# ¿ May 30, 2018 13:51 |
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76 is gonna be as uncanoned as hard as brotherhood of steel by the time the next fallout comes out, not that Beth ever gave a poo poo about canon.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2020 01:29 |
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From what I remember the prebuilts are trash.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2020 03:26 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:Getting a handle of the mechanics and I’m really enjoying Fallout 1. I see why this game is so beloved. It really is the best of all the fallouts. The writing is great and shoulders above the other games in the series.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2021 23:02 |
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I would try and go into two with an open mind instead of looking at others opinions first. If I gave you my own it might influence your own experience, and I doubt for the better.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 02:43 |
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Wanamaingos you mean. Pretty sure those were just another weird Fev abomination like the centaurs and the weird tape worm guys.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2021 06:17 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 17:15 |
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Father Wendigo posted:
Beyond Boulder dome was the first mod I've seen with the gall to claim it was a DLC sized expansion, It was pretty bad but not quite the shitshow frontier and New Calfornia ended up being
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 09:26 |