Wolfsheim posted:

I love the lottery winner, that guy's boundless optimism combined with Boxcars' pessimism makes them the two powder gangers I leave alive every play through.

That star bottlecaps guy, though? He's getting shot in the face.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Seriously why is the DLC for fallout 4 still being sold at full price. It costs more than the base game.

catlord posted:

Although I personally still dream of Fallout: Louisiana.

MJBuddy posted:

Mole Nutria, Crawfish Mirelurks, and normal gators.

And the Loup Garou.

E: actually the way I'd love to see this done is that Lousiana was never bombed but tons of radiation poured in down the river, so 200 years in the future the Brotherhood shows up in New Orleans in shock at how bad everything looks and the locals tell them to go gently caress themselves.

"Oh my God did they just nuke every road with tiny tactical nukes?"

"Those are potholes."

"Why are is there a parade of Super Mutants being cheered?"

"Oh the Saints just won the Super Bowl"

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

American Propaganda

Megazver posted:

Arcsquad12 posted:

Find me a premium online game that costs $60-80 up front before you can even play. There's more of a gray area for freemium games but it has no place in AAA releases.

MariusLecter posted:

Yea, bow to the corporate overlords in the games industry!

Everyone's doin it.

Bleusilences posted:

Seems like the tick rate is low or the servers are overloaded.

Brother Entropy posted:

i never played fo4 so i'm having a real hard time judging what the percentages of 'streamers are bad at aiming' vs 'aiming in this stinks' are

Agent355 posted:

Spend less on manager's salaries?

ymgve posted:

So apparently if a teammate gets a wanted tag, you can shoot them, but they can't retaliate because you're their teammate. Then you can kill them and get the bounty.

Bethesda!

Donovan Trip posted:

Hellgate: London levels of hubris here. But that game had NPCs!

Mr Hootington posted:

https://twitter.com/Fallout/status/1055141872459366400?s=19

Spacedad posted:

Todd Howard said straight-up he wants the players to break the game as much as possible early after launch.

We're basically getting an early-access triple-A game here. If you know what you're getting into (like me) then go for it. Otherwise, you can always hold off until they patch the major problems.

For me I'm willing to put up with even game-breaking jank just to play a fallout bethesda game with pals.

Arcsquad12 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWltFdeMz_Q

Yong Yea weighs in.

Tenzarin posted:

I have to pay $60 bucks for this trash and install the bethseda game poo poo that only will have 2 games on it?

Azhais posted:

Have any of the streams shown high end energy weapons yet?

SwitchbladeKult posted:

From what I understand, Bethesda games use quite a bit of CPU power on the large number of physics objects the player can fiddle with.

Tei posted:

You don't always have to optimize everything

Like that example a few pages ago (menus checked for buildiables). Is unoptimized yes, but work ok for the stock game. It somewhat break with mods, but the shipped game was fine.

The strategy "optimize everything" leads to early optimization, that is a bigger demon than unoptimized stuff.

Tei posted:

You are talking about the whole engine, and I am talking about parts of it.

The mission of the engine, the faster the better. But how you get there, theres different ways and strategies, and the strategy to "optimize everything" is the most poor possible.

Optimized code is harder to read, harder to change, harder to debug, harder to rewrite. Unoptimized code with a naive approach are easier to replace with a better version.

Also optimized about what? memory consumation? cpu consumation? There are strategies of optimization that use more memory to save CPU, theres strategies of optimization that uses more CPU to save memory. Before you know what you want to optimize and where you want to optimize, is stupid to optimize.

And how much faster you can go? if you are already very fast, it may take a gigantic effort to be a tiny bit faster. The rule of dimishing returns. Sometimes the only way to go forward is to burn the entire house and build a new one. So before you optimize something, you need to look around you, ask people, look at the whole picture, and act smart.

People buying pets for a zoo need to save money on the elephants, not on the mouses. If the mouses cost 2$, and you optimize 50% the cost of moses, you pay 1$ for mouse. Great, you save 1$ from your budget. If your elephants cost 100000$ and you get a 10% optimization, you save 1000$ for elephant. Where you optimize can be more important than how much you optimize.

BillyC posted:

Fallout 76 is a game.

SplitSoul posted:

Their QA managed to let an FNV release bug slip through that deleted your cloud savegames.

Tei posted:

Modders fixing something the original devs missed don't mean the original devs are uncaring. Just that something slipped through the leaks.

Tei posted:

If you look at any software bug trackng system you will find devs fixed hundred of bugs. Even if they fixed 9000 bugs some may remain undetected.

Golden Bee posted:

I get the feeling that, considering the state of the game industry, the team was given not enough time to do what they needed to. Plans to start from stage one were ignored, people worked under crunch and now they will release the game so that they can reach the state of having released it.

Keeping people around out of loyalty is a good thing to do for them in a bad thing to do to a CodeBase.

Paul Zuvella posted:

People buying pets for zoos

Tei posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization#Bottlenecks


In bold a sentence that is basically what I said. Then Donald Knuth seems to agree with my idea that optimizing everything is a bad idea. If I am wrong, I am on the same boat Donald Knuth, so at least I am on the right boat.