False posted:Kovacs has no range or affect and Ortega has to be one of the worst actors to get on a major show in awhile. I think you might have missed the point of both the book and the show. The flat affect is a pretty crucial part of the character.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2018 20:06 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 01:07 |
Cheston posted:Loved the series up to now, but episode 7 was a loving slog. Space mystical kung fu training is the dumbest. Beyond just the flashbacks, the show is at its worst when people are jumping around doing silly ninja stuff.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2018 03:23 |
Human Tornada posted:One example is the interrogation scene. In the book he's put into different sleeves and actually physically tortured and killed and it's super effective and hosed up until he talks his way out of it. In the show, he's tortured in the virtual world and they try their best to dress it up with a leftover set from Saw but it's still just a guy laying on a table twitching. I also think him killing everybody as he's escaping is far less dramatic than him escaping and then walking back into the lion's den to massacre them. That scene would be far less effective with different sleeves. Without a view to his internal state, it'd just look like torturing different people.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2018 19:14 |
I'm surprised they don't have some kind of version control system, git for people basically.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2018 15:33 |
bring back old gbs posted:Wasn't she catholic though? So no new body? Also she couldn't be re-sleeved the way kovacs just gets put into a new body because she's not an Envoy, so being put into a new body(even a combat enhanced one) is still disorienting isn't it? She wasn't the sort of catholic who signed the future DNR - that's what she and her mother were arguing about.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2018 00:31 |
Strom Cuzewon posted:Yeah, they're a separate instance. But GB's point is that there is no difference between the separate instances. That's the whole nothingburger of this argument. Zaphod is using 'you' to mean 'subjective experiencer' instead of 'entity with same mental structure'. For Zaphod, forking a person means creating two distinct 'you's, while for a lot of people, it's one 'you' that is two separate subjective experiencers. It's a 10-page argument that's secretly about pronoun semantics.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2018 17:55 |
Proteus Jones posted:Don’t get me wrong, I liked it overall, but the wholesale changes made kept it from being truly great to me. Specifically, making Envoys the exact OPPOSITE of what they are in the books. It strains belief that some kung-fu hippy rebels on NotHarlan’s World could have *that* kind of reputation across the protectorate 200 years later. Especially when the Protectorate seemed to have smashed their rebellion in fairly quick order. The Envoys weren't just some hippies on not_harlansworld. They were apparently a major threat to the protectorate because of their matrix bullshit. This is one of those points where book knowledge keeps you from paying attention to the show's details. The show is pretty explicit that the Envoys were everywhere, murdering protectorate officials left and right, and included some of their own former elite soldiers. a foolish pianist fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2018 12:52 |
It is pretty telling that only people who venerate the books (like, they're decent scifi, but jeez) object so stringently to the show.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2018 13:24 |
Neddy Seagoon posted:
It can't just be a storage device, unless brains are somehow grown in accord with the stored structure. Resleeving wouldn't work, otherwise.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2018 02:52 |
Neddy Seagoon posted:Hence "and wetware interface". The stack has to have processing that completely replaces the brain (or at least all the non autonomous functions). Otherwise, resleeving wouldn't do anything but start recording another brain's experiences.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2018 04:03 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 01:07 |
Zaphod42 posted:Okay now you've made me start thinking about the genetics of reproduction with sleeves. You can't think too hard about stacks, even at as basic a level as how the stack interacts with the brain in the sleeve's skull, or the whole thing falls apart completely.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2018 16:45 |