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it’s insanely cool that the people who make decisions that determine the life and death of countless people every single day are basically the most worthless scum on the planet. it’s good to me that these are the people we have decided to give ultimate power to and that between elections they are utterly unaccountable. it’s a nice political system we have and it makes me really pleased all the time
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Hey, hey now. An MP mis-using funds to go visit his mistress is private, none of our business, alright? What a person texts on their phone, that's fair game though
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Bill Shorten says Labor will make a decision about the future of the controversial Adani coalmine when it next wins government rather than taking any concrete position imminently, and will not rip up contracts or create sovereign risk. In a significant cooling of his recent public signalling on the Adani project, a statement issued by Shorten’s office on Thursday says, “if there are decisions to be made in government, Labor will make them in the national interest, based on relevant laws, and the best and most recent information before us”. Labor prepared to revoke Adani coalmine licence if elected, says Cousins Read more “Labor does not rip up contracts and we don’t create sovereign risk,” the statement says. The Labor leader’s indeterminate position will infuriate the environment and activist groups that have attempted over the summer to persuade Shorten to adopt a stronger stance on Adani – a lobbying effort that was triggered by Shorten himself. The Labor leader reached out to the environmentalist and businessman Geoff Cousins last December, signalling he wanted to take a tougher line against the project, which resulted in the two men visiting the Great Barrier Reef and the Adani mine site in late January. The statement from Shorten’s office does not deny Cousins’ detailed account of events from last December through to last weekend which the former president of the Australian Conservation Foundation shared with Guardian Australia on Wednesday. It confirms that Shorten requested a briefing from the Australian Conservation Foundation and Cousins on the Great Barrier Reef and their views on the proposed Adani coalmine. “This occurred in Queensland last month,” the statement says. “They provided a valuable perspective on the reef and the mine. Bill really appreciated the time and effort they gave informing him of all the environmental issues”. “The visit renewed Bill’s convictions on the importance of protecting the reef and the environment”. Cousins says Shorten reached out in December and then remained in contact throughout January and this month. According to Cousins, Shorten signalled his support for Labor revoking Adani’s licence based on concern about the impact of the project on the reef, on groundwater and endangered species. Again, according to Cousins’ account – not contradicted by the Labor leader – Shorten first signalled to him that Labor would adopt that position imminently, and then asked for more time because he’d met internal resistance, before declining to clarify what position the ALP would adopt. The statement from Shorten’s office reiterates the fact the Labor leader is “deeply sceptical of the proposed Adani coalmine”. “He believes if it cannot stack up environmentally or commercially, it should not go ahead. So far it hasn’t, and he doesn’t believe it will,” the statement says. The statement also downplays the input from Cousins and the ACF. “Bill has sought lots of feedback on the proposed mine”. “He’s spent a lot of time in regional Queensland hearing different views – from coalminers, conservationists, landowners and scientists,” the statement says. “He also held three town hall meetings last week in Townsville, Mackay and Rockhampton to hear from locals”. The Turnbull government has gone on the offensive against Shorten for delivering different messages to different constituencies, and for being “two faced” – and the Greens will also attack Labor in the Batman byelection, which is due on 17 March. The Greens leader, Richard Di Natale, said on Thursday Labor needed to adopt a clear position on the project, as Bob Hawke did on the Franklin dam. “Shorten needs to make an unequivocal statement, that Labor won’t let that mine proceed, and we are prepared to rip up contracts,” the Greens leader said. “That’s what Bill Shorten needs to say”. Labor has been divided internally about how hard to go against Adani. Some favour the Cousins position, others think that will cost Labor political support in Queensland. As well as the political calculations, there have also been internal concerns about the viability of legal avenues to stop the project. Legal advice sought by the Australian Conservation Foundation argues the commonwealth environment minister has discretion to revoke the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation (EPBC) Act approval for Adani “on at least two grounds”. The first ground would be “new information of the consecutive bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef, indicating increased sensitivity to greenhouse gas emissions” and the second would be “new information of the insufficiency of offsets for the endangered black-throated finch, indicating a threat to the continued survival of the species from the Carmichael project”. The legal advice from the Environmental Defenders Office in Queensland argues the revocation would not trigger a sovereign risk issue, or leave the government exposed to a compensation claim from the company, because the power in section 145 of the EPBC Act to revoke an approval “is clear and unambiguous, and is essential for the minister to protect the environment from significant impacts not assessed prior to an approval being granted”. The ACF advice says the power of revocation under section 145 of the EPBC Act “is not properly considered the acquisition of property and therefore does not attract the obligation to pay compensation”. But some in Labor think that legal opinion is overly optimistic, and there has been internal resistance to inserting a “climate trigger” within the EPBC Act because that could be a mechanism to shut down the coal industry in Australia. The CFMEU warned Shorten against adopting a hardline on Adani on the basis that it would trigger a divisive debate inside the party and the labour movement about the future of coal.
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A good look for a good minister in a good government led by a good leader.
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Mar 1, 2018 12:53
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Maybe the CFMEU should consider that it's more important to have somewhere to live above sea level than to protect 15 mining jobs that are due to be automated anyways.
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Don Dongington posted:Maybe the every CFMEU should consider that it's more important to have somewhere to live above sea level than to protect 15 mining jobs that are due to be automated anyways. 
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/969183642374123520 rumble a bonker
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I spread rumours about my male colleagues moving offices to try and rustle a jimmy E: also telling that Devine is the only parasite still clinging onto the already decaying carcass of the libs JBP fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/969191197536174085 Miranda Devine, woke?
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I'm sure someone who owns a casino drove a dump truck full of money up to her house.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Anidav I have found you a woman Okay, I'll be the one to say it: Lady, if your body is that hosed up, maybe you should be thinking twice about having kids at all.
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Mar 1, 2018 13:51
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Can't you just like, ask for that testing? I'm sure there are plenty of kids that aren't immunised and rely on herd immunity because it's risky.
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Mar 1, 2018 13:53
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I don't think anyone with an MD is asking her to vaccinate her kids without doing that testing. If she thinks anybody else's opinion matters, then she's part of the problem.
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Don Dongington posted:I've been mulling this pivot over, and we're like a year out from the election, so I suspect that Murdoch is just trying to usher Trumble out the door, and put someone he prefers in place, and that would worry me if the liberal party weren't even more devoid of raw talent than the nats. It's Potato time! Nice of Cash to distract from that ALP dude's Hitler Youth comments, which ordinarily would be front page news, by hiding behind that screen too.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Lady, if your body is that hosed up, maybe you should be thinking twice about having kids at all. I'm thinking just maybe she doesn't have great critical thinking skills.
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Zenithe posted:I'm thinking just maybe she doesn't have great thinking.
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MythLisp posted:https://theconversation.com/indigenous-girls-missing-school-during-their-periods-the-state-of-hygiene-in-remote-australia-79348 I don't want to come across as opposing the move, if it's the only way to do the right thing, but it's a lovely way of getting it done. I think the implication of calling people who menstruate 'disabled', even if it's just in some obscure bureaucratic definition, is that people who menstruate are less capable than people who don't, and I fear the definition might have unforeseen consequences down the line or would effect common perception of people who menstruate
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Mar 1, 2018 21:15
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My first car was a stick
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Australian steel is real.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:41
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Visidan posted:do we make steel anymore i can't remember Our only manufacturing industry is political credibility and it’s going downhill fast
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Mar 1, 2018 22:08
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Snowy Hydro to be privatised in 3...2...1...
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Mar 1, 2018 22:35
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It's not Auspol related but it is relevant to the "people get more conservative as they age" idea that gets discussed sometimes. https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/969310699246637056
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There was a thing on RN yesterday about how people who find body odour offensive are more likely to be supportive of far right wing authoritarian regimes.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:11
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Visidan posted:do we make steel anymore i can't remember Yes. Wollongong and Whyalla which still remains on the map.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:23
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Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:26
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xPanda posted:Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink. Harold Holt returns to claim the driftwood crown
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xPanda posted:Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink. Stop the boats
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Mar 1, 2018 23:32
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xPanda posted:Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink. Aren't they just the normal fanfair cannons set off when a NSW government sells off another public asset?
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Mar 1, 2018 23:38
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Dimebag posted:Aren't they just the normal fanfair cannons set off when a NSW government sells off another public asset? Nah, those got privatised.
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xPanda posted:Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6kk1bTqJs
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More ADF ttaining ecercises lile the blackhawks that were doing flybys late last night around sydney.
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Amoeba102 posted:More ADF ttaining ecercises lile the blackhawks that were doing flybys late last night around sydney. Training for what? Treating their own country like Syria? Why would you be shelling the CBD? Unless they're training for the revolution...
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Amoeba102 posted:More ADF ttaining ecercises lile the blackhawks that were doing flybys late last night around sydney. They'll never catch birdstrike at this rate 
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xPanda posted:Why the goddamn gently caress are they firing off artillery over sydney harbour? I was right in front of the first one to go off, thought my ferry was going to sink. This post + AV is amazing
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The guardian posted:Labor plans industrial relations changes to boost wages for low-paid workers quote:The ACTU’s Change the Rules campaign argues that limitations on collective bargaining have contributed to four years of persistent low wage growth and the average household having less disposable income in real terms now than in 2013. quote:The Fair Work Act preserves the system of enterprise bargaining and denies the ability to take protected action for pattern bargaining, in which employees seek common wages and conditions across two or more employers. More in the link.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:More in the link. My dick
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If Shorten unties the accord he will be the number one Labor man since Whitlam imo
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Speaking of lazy millennials, it is March... During Barnyardaby-farmgate (Is Barnaby the human equivalent of a puppy mill?) I did some research into the current Nats. House of Reps :- 21 members, 20 of whom have members. (5%) Senate :- 5 members, 4 of whom have no womb.(20%) The only woman who was in a position to be leader was Ms Michelle Landry. You might also note that other 'minor' parties have essentially the reverse when it comes to senate spots and seats in the reps (eg. Greens: 9 senators, 1 Member). Now the disproportional representation of rural Australia is not something I'd be keen on reversing in principle but based on the evidence before me...
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JBP posted:If Shorten unties the accord he will be the number one Labor man since Whitlam imo Not much competition, the egomaniac “Howard but cuddlier” nerd, the archetype for blairism, and the drunkard.
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