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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
who knew giving up your only leverage would backfire so spectacularly

What’s that? oh even infants knew? Oh

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
Schumer is quite possibly the stupidest person to have set foot in the senate

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
if trump pulls ICE from CA can i help them get their asses out? pro bono even

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Slow News Day posted:

You should perhaps bookmark the encyclopedic definition posted above so that you can refer to it whenever you find yourself asking this question.

Okay fine if you want to play word games, how many days of detention does it take before the word “temporary” no longer applies

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Fritz the Horse posted:

imo the important distinction is:

What is the intention of keeping migrants in these facilities?

Are we isolating (concentrating!) a group of undesirables (based on ethnicity, religion, political ideology, sexuality, etc) away from the larger society in order to control and oppress them?

or

Are we housing migrants in deplorable conditions because the system is broken and we don't have the capacity to handle the volume of unaccompanied minors so they're jam-packed sleeping on the floor in plastic-wrapped pens?



I think it's some of both and we can argue the degree to which either is at play but it's sort of a distinction without meaning.

There are camps on the border. The conditions human beings (kids!) are being subjected to is inhumane, horrifying, and totally unacceptable.

The discussion ought not to be "are they concentration camps or internment camps or death camps or maybe summer camps without the acoustic singalongs around a fire??"

It's what do we can do about them in the real world where those conditions actually exist.

it’s clearly one since we have always had the option of not detaining and letting them continue to wherever they were planning to go to. If one is so desperate to properly catalogue them for later processing write down their names, take a photo, and ask for contact information so that their immigration case information can be sent to them.

Hell give them a bus ticket too

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
or this argument could stop happening and we could just let people use detainment, concentration, and/or holding as a prefix to the word camps as they personally see fit

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

paranoid randroid posted:

this is a sincere question - given that we were instructed to "push biden left" as part of the compromise of him being the nominee, shouldn't we be just as angry and forceful with him as we would be under trump

yes, it is incendiary to use the term. but if we're serious about pushing him left, shouldnt we be incendiary?

forget it jake, it’s Chinatown

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