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Xotl
May 28, 2001

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Hell yes. Thanks for picking this one.

The Sign of Four is not my favourite Holmes: I'm in the vast minority in thinking it the least of Doyle's four novels (although not bad at all: just that I prefer the other ones more). But it's perhaps the most quintessential Holmes: the cocaine, Mary, one of the few appearances of the Baker Street Irregulars, some of the classic lines ("my mind rebels at stagnation"; "when you have eliminated the impossible...").

Xotl fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Feb 27, 2018

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Xotl
May 28, 2001

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anilEhilated posted:

Thing is, later authors and media turned Holmes into an impractical genius but in the original stories he's a regular action hero complete with mastery of disguise and martial arts. There isn't much point to Watson, he's there just to be amazed 90% of the time.
The only example I can think off the top of my head of Watson actually doing something is his solo trip to Baskerville manor and even that is rendered pointless by Holmes in the course of a few chapters.

You're forgetting Watson's most important role: the man who brings the revolver along.

Xotl
May 28, 2001

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Silver2195 posted:

Despite the conventional wisdom that various adaptations changed Watson from a normal person to an idiot, Watson kind of comes across as an idiot in ASiS anyway (especially when he gives a long catalog of Holmes's areas of knowledge and interest, but can't figure out from that that Holmes is a detective).

You're assuming the detective is a thing that exists. To some degree, Holmes invents the role of the private detective; he's certainly the one that makes the notion understood to a wider public. No one would assume anyone they met was such a thing in the time of the story.

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Then again, I haven't seen the older adaptations; maybe they do somehow make Watson even dumber.

Jesus yes. If you watch any of the Rathbone and Bruce films popular in the 40s, which were pretty much the gold standard until the Granada series with Jeremy Brett in the 80s, Watson is a walking sad trombone. It's really quite insufferable.

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