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https://twitter.com/4aPeoplesParty/status/992397266064293888 and once again the dem party proves that voting for their candidates is a vote for oligarchy quote:Others see superdelegates as a crucial part of the primary system — a safeguard against nominees like President Trump, said one Rules and Bylaws member, Elaine Kamarck, a DNC member who has studied presidential politics for years. basically, if their hand picked candidates win big after the primaries have been rigged in favor of the DNC, then they will feel comfortable destroying voter choice even more. thanks dems for making it clear what fruit the lesser of two evils voting strategy bears
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you mean thanks myself as you voted for the lesser evil in 2008 and 2012 and then fled the country in shame
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https://twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/992508910190899205 the dems are a waste
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viral spiral posted:https://twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/992508910190899205 yeah, expect more poo poo like this whenever a leftist stands a chance of winning. also expect the centrists to try to tank nixon in the GE if she wins the primary
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Thanks Tom you're a real gem pressing uh let's see.... absolutely nothing in terms of leadership down from the top
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10 years seems a little extreme since even the IRS only audits back like what at most 7?
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I don't think you can even request IRS transcripts for longer than 5 years, so you have to keep records that are not required by law and not available by request from the IRS in case you want to run for something 10 years in the future.
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https://twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/992788423265128448 rallies being held for poor cuomo, lover of republicans, by the ny dems now i guess by progressive change, they mean enabling the existence of the idc
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VitalSigns posted:10 years seems a little extreme since even the IRS only audits back like what at most 7? it's something they're trying to do in favor of Cuomo, who has released his last 25 years of tax returns because Nixon has only released 1 years worth
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Potato Salad posted:gently caress I mean this should prove that the Dems need a real kick in the pants.
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I guess this provides a good case in point here, so I repeat my question from a while ago to all you "vote left in the primaries but always vote D in the general": What the hell do you plan on doing when the establishment really starts rigging the primaries? Because if they're pulling poo poo like this at a mere prospect of an actual challenge it's pretty obvious what they'll do if somebody manages to primary out a sitting bad dem.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/992788423265128448 https://twitter.com/geoffberman/status/992858249371226112 lol the balls on this motherfucker.
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Josef bugman posted:I mean this should prove that the Dems need a real kick in the pants. NYS dems filed a poo poo ton of legislation in the legislature to fix all this poo poo months ago, well before Nixon the major roadblock would be that there's an rear end in a top hat from Brooklyn who is caucusing in the Republican party giving them the majority in the state senate right now
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exploded mummy posted:NYS dems filed a poo poo ton of legislation in the legislature to fix all this poo poo months ago, well before Nixon isn't that by design? the IDC is supported by cuomo
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Condiv posted:isn't that by design? the IDC is supported by cuomo No, there were 2 splinters off of the democratic party in the Senate, the IDC and the dickhead from Brooklyn who has somehow turned himself into kingmaker. So even now that the IDC is dead, the Senate caucuses stand at 31 Democrats, 31 Republicans, and the jerkoff who is still caucusing with the Republicans, giving them the 32-31 advantage.
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exploded mummy posted:No, there were 2 splinters off of the democratic party in the Senate, the IDC and the dickhead from Brooklyn who has somehow turned himself into kingmaker. are you certain this dickhead is acting without cuomo's blessing? he used the IDC before for the same purpose, so it's not out of the question for this guy to be the same thing. it's also in line with what cuomo's been pulling during this campaign season. for example, him claiming he's restoring the right to vote to felons, and then it turns out that he's doing that on a case by case basis. in any case, it certainly didn't help that a group of dems were being best friends with the repubs with cuomo's blessing, and this guy at the very least was inspired by that poo poo
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Condiv posted:are you certain this dickhead is acting without cuomo's blessing? he used the IDC before for the same purpose, so it's not out of the question for this guy to be the same thing. it's also in line with what cuomo's been pulling during this campaign season. for example, him claiming he's restoring the right to vote to felons, and then it turns out that he's doing that on a case by case basis. Unless Cuomo somehow has a double secret splinter agent there to protect Jewish schools, I dunno. He represents the orthodox Jewish portions of Brooklyn and has run on the Democrat and Republican party lines on the ballots. (Its possible for this to happen in New York) I agree that having the IDC in place was a great way for this poo poo to really not be noticed a ton, but that's basically gone now. I'm a bit apprehensive assigning a lot of control of the IDC to Cuomo, as why it is a good distraction Aside from influence peddling, there's been at least one case where the Republicans were caught bribing the IDC financially because of a "clerical" error on payroll paperwork that gave them stipends. Cant remember what came of it though.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I guess this provides a good case in point here, so I repeat my question from a while ago to all you "vote left in the primaries but always vote D in the general": What the hell do you plan on doing when the establishment really starts rigging the primaries? Pull a Trump and run as a Republican. I don't think the NY Republican Party is strong enough to prevent such a takeover. edited for clarity. gaj70 fucked around with this message at 19:30 on May 7, 2018 |
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gaj70 posted:Pull a Trump and run as a Republican. I don't think the NY Republican Party is strong enough to prevent such a takeover. You know,I almost think it could be doable. I mean kind a constituency with alot of republicans who are pissed off at the local party establishment, run on getting rid of NEOLIBERAL economics that have wrecked the country. Talk about how you are the ultimate anti establishment politician. When asked about culture stuff, say that LIBERAL culture wars are destroying this country and that you're not here to distract your here to "Get poo poo done". Say you want a end to wars, by talking about America first as well. Talk about how you're going to make the fatcat establishment pay it's way, say that when they pay the schools will be so great,everyone will want to come to the district to go to school there. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 7, 2018 |
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That's literally just trump though.
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OwlFancier posted:That's literally just trump though. Trump was a Presidential candidate... an off-year year election for, say, a House seat would be a different kettle of fish. Shockingly low numbers actually vote in those primaries. A medium-sized flash mob could turn one of those.
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gaj70 posted:Trump was a Presidential candidate... an off-year year election for, say, a House seat would be a different kettle of fish. Shockingly low numbers actually vote in those primaries. A medium-sized flash mob could turn one of those. That's what I'm saying. I got my cousins dumbass CHUDD husband to agree that neoliberal economics is bad and that we should be using money for schools not for foreign countries or wars. Also got him to talk about how much he hates the GOP in Michigan panders to Devosses and other assholes. So run as this anti establishment populist. Also got him to admit it wouldn't be bad to have a government provided health insurance , and culture war is entirely a distraction, He is pretty much the kind of eprson who first got bought into Trumps BS. So really running a populist campaign with soft social democracy could work. Also, why not try to take over both parties? It is what the neolibs did. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 7, 2018 |
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I think my favorite way to align with lovely right wingers is to ask landlords why they pay property taxes on their property but hedge funds don't pay property taxes on theirs
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gaj70 posted:Trump was a Presidential candidate... an off-year year election for, say, a House seat would be a different kettle of fish. Shockingly low numbers actually vote in those primaries. A medium-sized flash mob could turn one of those. My point is that running on a campaign of nationalism and gut feeling economics is probabkly not going to be a very good thing?
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OwlFancier posted:My point is that running on a campaign of nationalism and gut feeling economics is probabkly not going to be a very good thing? Appealing to the right's lovely fear-driven worldview is enough to win you the Presidency 
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Potato Salad posted:Appealing to the right's lovely fear-driven worldview is enough to win you the Presidency Yes, as a lovely right wing idiot. I am trying to suggest that "Run as a turborepublican and then pull the mask off and yell 'HAHAHAH I AM SECRETLY A COMMUNIST YOU FOOLS!!'" is a stupid idea and isn't going to happen.
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Potato Salad posted:Appealing to the right's lovely fear-driven worldview is enough to win you the Presidency Trump broke a bunch of right-wing taboos and still won...
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Trump broke a bunch of right-wing taboos and still won... Which is what I'm suggesting doing. Also its a good idea to try to take over both of Americas parties.
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If you run on a social regressive and nationalist platform you aren't taking over the republicans you're just joining them.
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gaj70 posted:Pull a Trump and run as a Republican. I don't think the NY Republican Party is strong enough to prevent such a takeover. Youd still lose because of the city, most likely
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Spanish Matlock posted:So if Hillary had won would we have withdrawn from the Iran deal? Is that a big deal yet? Like worse than giving tepid lip service to liberal ideals while being a moderate conservative? probably? a lot of dems never liked the Iran deal, which is why they were so eager to gently caress it over with sanctions in exchange for russia sanctions. also,israel hates the iran deal, and a lot of dems, hillary included, are more receptive to israel than obama was. i would not put it past president hillary to scrap the iran deal at netanyahu's request, despite that odious shitbag quite clearly favoring the republican party in the US. edit: i mean, if you want to point out an area where clinton and trump would be different on policy, iran's a really weak choice Condiv fucked around with this message at 13:28 on May 9, 2018 |
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Spanish Matlock posted:So if Hillary had won would we have withdrawn from the Iran deal? Is that a big deal yet? Like worse than giving tepid lip service to liberal ideals while being a moderate conservative? Options for keeping Iran from a bomb without the voluntary material submission and inspection deal: 1) War and occupation 2)
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I'm not even sure I'd shed a tear if Isreal ate an Iranian bomb were it not for the staggering human cost of any bombing against civilians. We also know that's not going to happen; Bibi and Bolton are absolutely chomping at the bit for the coming excuse to Donald the Dove the poo poo out of brown people in the middle east. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 16:34 on May 9, 2018 |
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Potato Salad posted:Options for keeping Iran from a bomb without the voluntary material submission and inspection deal: Maybe now, but we certainly blew a once-a-century opportunity with our response to the Green Revolution. We also got taken to the cleaners when we traded sanctions + $700 million for (at best) a ten year moratorium on further developing a few sub-components of a usable nuke. I don't envy the Trump administration on this issue. They have a ton of hard work to do.
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