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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Releasing March 22nd


FFG is at it again. Just when you thought they could not squeeze any more money out of you on a regular basis they just had to make a “company size” ground combat miniature game. Many wallets were heard crying out in despair when it was formally announced in 2017.

What is Legion?
Basically think 40k scale, but with better rules. Created by Fantasy Flight Games (X-Wing, Armada, Imperial Assault and tons of other good games). Yeah, they made the Star Wars Destiny CCG too, but who can blame them for riding the gravy train that is fools who play CCGs

Sadly unlike X-Wing and Armada, the miniatures are unpainted. On a good note, you will be able to make tons of friends by painting Hello Kitty Vader and the Care Bear Storm Troopers

On a good note, FFG has said that unlike X-Wing and Armada you won't have to buy stuff from both factions to have access to all the upgrades.

Here is their blurb

quote:

Star Wars: Legion invites you to join the unsung battles of the Galactic Civil War as the commander of a unique army filled with troopers, powerful ground or repulsor vehicles, and iconic characters like Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker. While innovative mechanics simulate the fog of war and the chaos of battle, the unpainted, easily assembled miniatures give you a canvas to create the Star Wars army you’ve always wanted to lead into battle—whether you fight for the monolithic, oppressive Galactic Empire or the ragtag Rebel Alliance.

Bell of Lost Souls just put up a review and it's looking good
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/02/review-do-yourself-a-favor-and-play-star-wars-legion.html

Also, they have put up videos of full games. They are long, but they are answering tons of questions as they go.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/228399453

What era is this set?
This is set during the original trilogy. We know sooner or later they will expand into The Force Awakens era. If you are someone who really wants Ep 1-III I suggest you go ahead and just repeatedly punch yourself in the junk because no one likes you and no one ever will.

Rules
Learn to play rules(Baby's 1st game)
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgam...to

Full rules reference
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/86/db/86dbf9d4-fb20-4f6a-bf5a-5297a62f60aa/swl_rules_reference_11_eng.pdf





What units are in the game? What should I buy?

Buy what you like, but always buy a core set

Core Set

Includes everything you need to get started and learn the rules. While it does not include enough stuff for a full 800 point army it will give you a good idea on how to play the game and will make up ⅔ of your army.
It included:
Imperial
Vader
2x Speeder Bikes
2x Squads of Storm Trooper

Rebel
Luke Skywalker
AT-RT
2x Squads of Rebel Troopers

Plus range rulers, more tokens than you can shake a stick, rule books and of course custom FFG dice

Available at launch on March 22nd

Speeder Bike

Fast, Fragile, but can pack a wallop. Allergic to glowing green swords and stiff breezes
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/10/25/rule-the-galaxy-1/

Stormtrooper

Decent Armor and I poo poo you not, get bonuses for aiming
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/1/22/imperial-legions/


AT-ST

Live out your Ewok murder fantasies. Packs an ungodly amount of guns and can use them all
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/star-wars-legion/products/-st-unit-expansion/

AT-RT

Bock, bock motherfucker I’m a chicken with a gun
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/star-wars-legion/products/-rt-unit-expansion/

Rebel Troopers

Better guns than Stormtroopers, worse armour. Voted most like to be mowed down en mass by a red lightsaber in high school
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/star-wars-legion/products/rebel-troopers-unit-expansion/

T-47 Snowspeeder

Wedge! Harpoons! Sadly no Dak
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/1/15/scramble-airspeeders/

Available April/May

General Veers

Commander: Last seen on Hoth in your base killing your doods
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/12/20/command-from-the-front/

SnowTroopers

Not Space Racists
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/12/20/snowtrooper-assault/

Princess Leia

Commander: I eagerly await the bad metal bikini modifications
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/1/24/inspire-rebellion/

Rebel Fleet Troopers

Hat game always on point
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/1/24/defend-the-fleet/

This is an FFG game so you can expect plenty of units to be released every few months. Just when you think you have it all BAM! New release

How to build an Army
You have 800 points to spend on
1-2 Commanders
Up to 2 Vehicles (AT-RT & Speeder Bikes don’t count)
As many troopers as you can fit
Plus upgrades for all of them.

There is already an Army builder online and there will be more after release
http://tabletopadmiral.com/legion/

Painting

If you are like me and haven't painted in ages I highly recommend Sorastro's painting channel. He puts up really nice guides on painting the models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OVnCFq1j04

If the is anything else you would like to see in the OP let me know and I will add it

Raged fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 27, 2018

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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Reserved for something important I'm sure

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Drone posted:

So in typical FFG style I assume most of this stuff will be nigh-ungettable a month after release, right?

FFG seems to be getting better about keeping up with demand. The latest wave of X-wing got a second shipment a few weeks after it came out. They also seemed to have slowed down the Armada release and a few other things to ramp up production of Legion.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

banned from Starbucks posted:

How much of this game is the force user commander just slaughtering endless amounts of cannon fodder troops? Id like an actual troop vs troop game and want to steer as far away from the force stuff as possible. Basically my question is how close is this to the last 5min of Rogue One?

I have seen Luke die pretty quick from focused fire if he just blindly charges in. Vader moves so slow that he isn't going to have a chance to murder your whole army unless they are stacked in one big pile.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

hoiyes posted:

Given the points cost of an At St, I'm assuming the chances of the standard game point value going up to at least 1000, once there are more releases, are pretty high.

I think Imps will get other smaller vehicles. In most of the previews, FFG has said that AT-STs are supposed to be a huge investment. The rebels can field a lot more units than Imps if the Imp player runs an AT-ST

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Drone posted:

I believe I read somewhere that there are multiple game sizes supported in the rules... 500/800/1200 maybe?

All the rulebooks that have been read so far say 800. Pretty sure that is the same for the Organized Play preview they put out. 500 is used for the "Learn to Play"

Only big set of rules that hasn't come out is the terrain rules. Hoping FFG sticks to something like Armada and X-Wing where it is limited to a limited number of pieces per players. People are already making massive tables full of junk that no walker or flyer could get through.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Drone posted:

Have FFG said anything about putting out Star Wars terrain, or are they leaving that to 3D printers or third party? My game store of choice has a preorder "bundle" of the core box + a 3x6 terrain mat of my choice (thinking desert... though the bundle doesn't really offer any discount, it's more of a convenience packet I guess), but I have zero terrain or Star Wars-appropriate buildings I could use with it.

There is some terrain/obstacles in the core set and at official FFG demos they have some Endor trees and the bunker, but they have not said anything about terrain. The only thing we know for sure is that it will be played on a 3x6 mat. There is a rules PDF that coming, but no idea if it is coming out before launch day.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Just saw how huge an AT-ST is in the flesh. So now I have pre-ordered one. My pile of shame continues to grow.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

hoiyes posted:

Just realised this game will almost certainly have ewok gliders.

Going to have ewok corpses decorating my AT-ST

Drone posted:

Are they gonna do a Scum & Villainy faction? Because tbh that's the one I wanna play most.

Same here



My FLGS announced they are going to have a midnight launch. First they have ever done :woot: Lots of people have just walked in grabbed a preorder sheet, ticked off everything on the list and paid for it.

Raged fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Feb 16, 2018

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Ruuuuuuuullllees



L2P

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/ed/60/ed603073-b7a3-4e83-94b6-31c8e5cf922f/swl01_learn_to_play_eng.pdf

Full rules reference

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/86/db/86dbf9d4-fb20-4f6a-bf5a-5297a62f60aa/swl_rules_reference_11_eng.pdf

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I am liking the tourney terrain rules a lot.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Tons of shops in Australia are doing the launch weekend event. Sadly I will be away at a X-Wing regional that weekend.

Edit: wow for 800 point armies you have to have 3 trooper units. That's interesting. Going to make running an ATST interesting.

Raged fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Feb 27, 2018

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Yeah I don't see FFG going down that route. Even at World's you will see ships that have been modded and look nothing like the ship they represent. As long as you have the unit cards and upgrade cards you will be fine. Outside of tournaments if someone doesn't let you proxy stuff then they are not worth playing.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I use pluck foam for my XWing collection and plan on using that for Legion. Think I will have to get creative with the AT-ST.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Just put a set of stormtroopers on my pre-order list at the flgs then realised I have ordered everything that is coming out.



gently caress I'm weak.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
The full rules are an online PDF. However if you want a printed copy all you have to do is go to the launch weekend event and you can pick up a printed version.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

hoiyes posted:

When is it?

Most shops are holding it the weekend of launch week. I'm currently kissing booty at the shop to get one since I'm at an XWing regional that weekend.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

FrostyPox posted:

My FLGS had little in store demos today. There are definitely some points that I hope will be cleared up by the full rules, but overall I felt the game was :krad:

Full rules PDF is linked in the OP

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
One of the Aussie distributors is sold out now and the other 1-2 are expecting to be next week. They have said don't expect more to come in for months. It has already sold more core sets than the latest edition of 40k did on release at my flgs.

Friend of mine is a bit povo right now and can't pick up anything. Said he could use my Imps until he can so he said going to paint all of imps for free. Still doing the AT-ST though. I got plans for that beauty.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
After playing a few games I just ordered another AT-RT. They are little murder machines.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Just about a week till release. I'm hyped

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Speaking of hype. First organised play kit and event are up. Kits should arrive in April


https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/3/12/recruit-your-legions/

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I played got to open my flgs's demo box and there were none of those problems when I was assembling the minis. That Luke sure looks like an early model maybe a prototype since they box one is not green and looks better than that.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
A lot of people in Australia who ordered from online retailers got their stuff today.

Wish my flgs would break street date because of it :(

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

hoiyes posted:

Like ozgameshop?

The only one I am 100% sure of is Mighty Ape.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
My flgs right now. Not seen the other 12 cases



This is at a shop in a country town with a population of less than 30k

Edit: Also all preorders, that have sold too.

Raged fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Mar 20, 2018

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I'm just going to use 2 X-Wing mats to make my 6x3 until a find a 6x3 mat dirt cheap

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Thank god for the terrain rules. It would be impossible to play on that table with speeder bikes or t-47s. Heck you would not get a range 3 shot

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

canyoneer posted:

Yeah, Costco usually has the 6' folding tables for $50 or so, and they fold down in half to be almost square. Problem is they're never wide enough, the usual size is 30 inches which is not quite 3 feet.

For X-Wing/Armada we just find some plywood and cut a board the size we need and set it on top of the table. Heck it works on my coffee table.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Here is another shop in a larger city in Australia. One of three in Canberra and it's just part of the stock they got in.





Fuuuuck I need my crack hit.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Happy day!

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I was able to put together my 3 squads of Rebel Troopers last night and put them on their bases. Except for 3-4 everything fit together really well and I just had to trim the arm pegs on the ones that did not quite fit right.

You really can just snap everything together and be up and playing within 30-45 minutes. Just have to Blue Tac or super glue them to the bases.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

head58 posted:

I’ve just spent the past 3 hours cleaning mold lines off the 2 units of Stormtroopers so ymmv.

I haven't worked with miniatures in years and probably missed the mood lines. Will double check before I prime next week.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
You can make a AT-ST a waste of points with 2 Ion troopers. Place the squads with them so that if the AT-ST goes after them then the vulnerable back is facing your T-47 and AT-RTs

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Funzo posted:

The problem we ran into was that with upgrades it never has to move. It can hit anywhere on the board and fire 4 weapons.

Firing is an action. 2 Ions tokens means it gets no actions. It is a sitting duck. You fire the Ion as part of the squad's whole attack pool so you are pretty much guaranteed a to get that hit to crit in.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Ugleb posted:

Alternative angle of Han Solno found on BoW, taken at Adepticon.



Honestly, that looks like a kitbash using the rebel squad leader. The first Luke we saw was horrid, but the release version is much much better. It doesn't come out till Q3 so I hope we are not seeing the final product.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Just finished painting my 3 squads of rebel troopers. Not posting pics because I am so drat bad at painting minis. Having shaky rear end hands does not help at all. At least I get to start painting my AT-RTs and snow speeder now which should actually be fun.

In other news my FLGS just received a form from FFG/Asmodee asking what regionals the would be interested in hosting and Legion was on the list. So it looks like there will be Legion regionals at the end of the year/early next year. I really hope that they spread them out.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
This is what I am running right now. AT-RTs converting surges to crits is just so drat mean. Probably going to drop Luke when Leia comes out and add some fleet troopers with shottys


Luke Skywalker [160]
Force Reflexes [15]
Battle Meditation [10]

Rebel Troopers [40]
Rebel Trooper [10]
Impact Grenades [5]

Rebel Troopers [40]
Rebel Trooper [10]
Impact Grenades [5]

Rebel Troopers [40]
Rebel Trooper [10]

T-47 Airspeeder [175]
Wedge Antilles [5]
Ax-108 Ground Buzzer [20]

AT-RT [55]
AT-RT Rotary Blaster [30]

AT-RT [55]
AT-RT Rotary Blaster [30]

AT-RT [55]
AT-RT Rotary Blaster [30]

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Right now everyone has the same condition/objective/environment cards. However when the objectives expansion comes out that will change. How do you determine whose set of cards will be used to determine the battlefield?

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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Hopefully we see tournament rules soon since ya know they are promoting tournaments with the reinforce,t packs and the new pack coming out.


Not like they have shown up in Australia......

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