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Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Explaining to my sales rep why I wasn't going to stock the new Vampire stuff, even if it would sell, because of who was involved in its creation, is one of the best parts of being a retailer.

gently caress Zak.

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Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Qoey posted:

True. It's like the people who like to remind me that "capitalism is working as intended." I need to stop thinking that corporations actually apply ethics when not pressed.

Fixed that for ya

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Feel like I should say a bit more than just driving by.

The underlying problem is that corporations exist to make money, above all other things. They have other effects, and may do other things, but their primary purpose, the purpose to which everything else can be subordinated or sacrificed, is to make money.

Hence, in the Ur-Example, a dude bro day trader who makes a million dollars for the company is worth more to the company than the secretary that he harasses. She gets fired, he gets protected. This is not moral, this is not ethical, this is not right. But this is how corporations function: there is "no incentive" to protect a minor worker who doesn't produce money for the shareholders. Companies pretty quickly adapted to the idea that women, LGBT+, and BIPOC people can also make money, but the entrenched ideals are the same -- Profit before People. The sort of people who own stock want to see it go up each quarter, and they're not going to be understanding about a 25% loss on their investment because the company did the ethical thing and gave everyone a raise.

Lest you think this is something that can be avoided by ethical consuming or "good corporate values", I'll point to the example of No Evil Foods, a socialist vegan meat company that just made a huge anti-union drive: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5pbex/audio-no-evil-foods-a-faux-leftist-vegan-meat-company-busts-union-drive

WotC doesn't ultimately give a poo poo what Mearls does to who, provided he keeps D&D Beyond subscriptions rolling in at a great profit. His job isn't to make a good game; his job is to make money for Hasbro. Which he does. Tons of it. They aren't going to fire him because he's doing his job and doing it well. If they see a dip in Beyond subs, then his job will be in jeopardy, but otherwise it'd take a pretty major scandal to dislodge him -- they've already shown that they don't care that he hangs around with porn star abusing sociopaths and right wing nazis, so why would they care if he got rid of (in their view) a contract employee who is big on Twitter? None of these scandals have ultimately hurt the bottom line. Hasbro stock is doing pretty well, all things considered, and historically performed quite well: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/better-buy%3A-amazon-vs.-hasbro-2020-07-11

Public shaming has worked occasionally on companies, but doesn't seem to have any lasting effects. I doubt there's a big enough scandal that WotC couldn't just sweep people off the creative team and say "Look, we're going to do better in the future, and we love our fans and look at this person we just hired" and not have it go away in 3-6 months because ultimately, D&D and Magic control so much of the market share that to stop carrying them/using them would be financial suicide for many game stores, APs, YouTube personalities, tournament players, etc. WotC can be shamed occasionally into posting about how much Black Lives Matter or making their logo a rainbow, but ultimately, those who aren't ruthless enough to understand that Money is the goal, not art, will be discarded. Mearls understands this, hence the subscription character generator service, the getting you to buy both print and digital copies of the books from a premium service, the pdfs available of the entire D&D back catalogue... Unless a company like Mattel decided to get into the RPG market and aggressively push Pathfinder or Earthdawn or Rifts or another old RPG that has a gigantic back catalogue of supplements, I don't think we're going to see any meaningful competition to D&D. I've never seen Fellowship or Apocalypse World for sale in Target or Walmart, and I feel confidant in saying that I never will.

Killing D&D would be like killing Monopoly or Clue. It'd be like trying to get Tom Clancy or VC Andrews off the shelf. It will die when tabletop role playing as a hobby dies. Is it the best game? No, of course not. But it's the only game with the backing of a large corporation and a side industry of media savvy people dedicated to keeping it alive. WotC's closest competitor, Paizo, doesn't even come close to the sheer financial weight that Hasbro can swing if they choose. For example, D&D has multiple MMOs out; how's the Pathfinder MMO folks kickstarted years back coming along? Supermarkets stock Wonderbread not because it's the best tasting or healthiest bread on the market, but because there's a demand for white bread, and the other bread types pale in comparison when it comes to volume of sales.

Corporate culture cannot, and will not, be meaningfully reformed until another incentive other than Profit Above All Else is found, and any company that achieves any measure of success will begin to think this way. It is the nature of companies in a capitalist society.

Do I have a workable solution for this? Heck no! If I did, I'd be writing an academic paper or book about corporate reform, not posting on SA. Ultimately, it ends up being a Scorpion and the Frog type scenario, where that's just what these things do, and saying "Well, they shouldn't do that" kinda misses the point. I'd like it if they didn't do it too, but well, money ultimately trumps any ethics 99/100 times, and the 1/100th gets eaten by the more ruthless.

Toph Bei Fong fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Jul 19, 2020

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Dexo posted:

You are 100% right but a pedantic note but D&D Beyond is not run by Wizards, they license the name from them, but are run by Fandom.

I will fully cop to just going off the Wikipedia entry for this bit, which says

quote:

D&D Beyond derives its income from digital content purchases (revenue from which is shared with Wizards of the Coast, which publishes the official Dungeons & Dragons fifth edition books)...


being wrong here.

Toph Bei Fong fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 19, 2020

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Back in 2011, in the height of the 4e era, there were about 45k listed subscribers to D&D Insider, according to the WotC forum data.

Assuming that's correct and not an undercount (i.e. folks who subscribed but without forum accounts), at $10/month for a subscription, that was $450,000 going into WotC's pocket before overhead and salaries, or $5.4 million per year. The character generator ended up a bad, lowest bid product run in Silverlight of all things, and Dragon magazine paid peanuts to its writers, many of whom were fans super excited to be part of "Real D&D" and didn't care about the crappy pay. Part of Mearls' job was to make more money than all this. He's still there 6 years after 5e launched, so it's safe to assume he has. Hasbro famous fires people right before Christmas, when Q4 numbers are released -- I doubt they'd let him just hang on and lose them money.

D&D Beyond will sell you digital copies of the books, for a total of up to $637 for all of them, which I don't suspect is happening as often as subscriptions are. I can't find total subscriber numbers, unfortunately, but I suspect Fandom is paying a pretty penny to WotC for that revenue.

Toph Bei Fong fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jul 19, 2020

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Mr.Misfit posted:

I find this highly fascinating, and if I may ask,
is the immediate logic here that: "someone who follows the basic logic that you can only recognize something as worthy if its referential"
necessarily fascist or is it something like one of the pillars of authoritarian thought?
Basically reactionary ideologies require this thinking, whether ìts fascist nor not? Or is this mindset always fascist?

Some of this makes more sense when you read the work of one of the original reactionaries, Nicolás Gómez Dávila, who, to put it mildly, was an awful person. He wrote a ton of aphorisms, mainly concerned with keeping the world under pre-Vatican II Catholic rule. He's not technically a fascist, but he is one of the founders of reactionary thought, whose central idea is that modern society is corrupt and decadent, and thus he envisages a return to the "good old days". Where it differs from fascism is that there's no nationalist bent or attempt to build a group around himself. Dávila's writing has no mechanism by which "we" will seize power and return the world to this pure state; he simply criticizes the world and watches it get "worse", and he deliberately kept himself out of any political office, though posts were offered to him. He was the 1970-1990s equivalent of a conservative doomer twitter poster.

It's one of those "all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares" type deals. It seems impossible to be a fascist without being a reactionary, but non-fascist reactionism is possible, though rarer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070210070255/http://www.wandea.org.pl/nicolas-davila.html

Dávila posted:

Modern man does not love, but seeks refuge in love; does not hope, but seeks refuge in hope; does not believe, but seeks refuge in a dogma. (I, 212)

Every marriage of an intellectual with the communist party ends in adultery. (I, 237)

Modern man destroys more when he builds than when he destroys. (I, 251)

Contemporary literature, in each and every epoch, is the worst enemy of culture. A reader's limited time is wasted in reading a thousand books that blunt his critical sense and damage his literary sensibility. (I, 258)

The Biblical prophet doesn't predict the future, but bears witness to the presence of God in history. (I, 262)

Civilization is a poorly fortified encampment in the midst of rebellious tribes. (I, 268)

In an age in which the media broadcast countless pieces of foolishness, the educated man is defined not by what he knows, but by what he doesn't know.

Contemporary political ideologies are false in what they affirm and true in what they deny. (I, 275)

Ritual is an instrument of the sacred. Every innovation is a profanation. (I, 299)

The supreme aristocrat is not the feudal lord in his castle but the contemplative monk in his cell. (I, 306)

All epochs exhibit the same vices, but not all show the same virtues. In every age there are hovels, but only in some are there palaces. (I, 308)

The modern tragedy is not the tragedy of reason defeated but of reason triumphant. (I, 308)

Philosophy is a literary genre. (I, 312)

The study of myths belongs to metaphysics, not to psychology. (I, 314)

The writer who loves or hates is less persuasive than the one who loves and hates. (I, 315)

Modern man is a prisoner who thinks he is free because he refrains from touching the walls of his dungeon. (I, 315)

To have opinions is the best way to escape the obligation of thinking. (I, 324)

God is a nuisance for modern man. (I, 332)

The "ivory tower" has a bad reputation only among the inhabitants of intellectual hovels. (I, 338)

The Church founders without the ballast of "average Christians." (I, 347)

I distrust every idea that doesn't seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries. (I, 353)

Those who proclaim that the noble is despicable end up by proclaiming that the despicable is noble. (II, 36)

Poetry is the fingerprint of God in human clay. (II, 45)

Every solution seems trivial to the one who does not understand the problem. (II, 47)

The cultured man has the obligation to be intolerant. (II, 58)

The stupidity of an old man imagines itself to be wisdom; that of an adult, experience; that of a youth, genius. (II, 64)

Stupid ideas are immortal. Each new generation invents them anew. (II, 80)

He who speaks of his “generation” admits that he’s part of a herd. (II, 81)

For the myth of a past golden age, present day humanity substitutes the myth of a future plastic age. (II, 88)

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Feeple posted:

That's kinda where I sit on this. The world they paint is one of constant fear and ruin. It has to be awful to live like that.

Based on that, I don't think they "like" anything. There is only the line they decide to defend. Now, where that line is (and who nudges it around) is more subjective, whether it's American Prosperity, Whiteness, "Western Culture," or even just the (IMO laughable) "ethics in game journalism," There is The Wall, and they must defend it lest the Barbarian Hordes come ransacking it and the golden fields beyond.

The position always feels like they just want a life that's simple, but not peaceful.

I agree.

It reminds me of those terrible reviews of Tarantino movies that Abby Shapiro and her husband did, where whenever they start to get into it or find something interesting, they immediately pull back and ask "What does it mean?" or "What's the point of this?", completely missing that a lot of the fun of movies is interpreting what the director is trying to say (and whether they pulled that off), or to figure out what it means to you. Any sort of ambiguity must be condemned, and any attempt to "trust the viewer" must be questioned.

You see that a lot in conservative discussions about aesthetics, honestly. "What I like" must be objectively good, of a quality which no one could possibly disagree with, and "What I don't like" must similarly be terrible in some grand cosmic sense, such that only fools would enjoy it. It seems very insecure, and would be sad if it wasn't so annoying and harmful.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Dawgstar posted:

Technically it was Ty Beard, who also acts as Rekeita's estate lawyer and if you think that's suspicious Nick would start a fund for Mignogna without even asking Vic first and getting Beard to prosecute it, well, congratulations on being awake. That said if you followed folks like Greg Doucette who kept people up to date because he is an actual lawyer who does actual cases (there has always been debate about how much law Nick practices regularly) who had found out about the case and commented on it throughout in giant Twitter threads because every lawyer who saw it found it the most hilarious thing ever.

For those who want to know more, ALAB has a really good rundown of how weird that whole situation was:

https://www.alabseries.com/episodes/episode-4-weeb-wars-pt-1

https://www.alabseries.com/episodes/episode-5-weeb-wars-pt-2

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



GimpInBlack posted:

Not just a sex pest, an actual convicted child molester. Edward E. Kramer, a man whose sole contribution to the earth remains ensuring that Michael Richards is never more than "the second-worst Kramer."

I like it when Wikipedia doesn't pull punches or try to weasel out of telling things like they are

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



GreenMetalSun posted:

uh................

Was this an actual thing?

oWoD was very bad. This isn't even the worst stuff I could find

(The only Black sample PC in the Ventrue handbook)






Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Warthur posted:

- They gave it to Phil Brucato, who is himself Very 1993. (He's one of those people who fit all three of the criteria I outlined above as prerequisites for taking 1st edition Mage seriously.)

Yeah, Brucato is a well-meaning and friendly guy, but he's just so... himself... and so tied into that early 90s zeitgeist.

The Mage podcast opened with an interview with him, and it's extremely illuminating as to just how different a generation he's from, and how weird it is that he's been sort of isolated inside it, despite the world moving on: http://magethepodcast.com/what-is-mage-the-ascension/

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Halloween Jack posted:

Is it like that bit in This Is Spinal Tap, where Fran Drescher tries to explain to them that the 60s are over?

The host is kinda bowled over that he's talking to such a famous and influential guy, and to be fair, it's a pretty big coup to get The Mage Guy on your very first episode, so it's a pretty soft and friendly interview.

But pretty quickly, Brucato gets off on a tangent about why he's called Satyr and not Phil, and how it's been rough because his friend Coyote isn't doing too well, and you can just see the Siouxsie and the Banshees poster and the side table covered in Amy Brown faerie statues, like the past 25 years hadn't really happened but they kept getting older for some reason...

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Rent seeking in a nutshell, starring Zorro

https://the-delve.com/2019/06/29/zorro-copyright/

quote:

Over at Nova Southeastern University, Stephen Carlisle nicely summarized the current copyright status of The Curse of Capistrano and McCulley’s follow-up, The Further Adventures of Zorro:

quote:

“The character of Zorro first appeared in the serialized story “The Curse of Capistrano” by Johnston McCulley in 1919. A movie adaptation “The Mark of Zorro” starring Douglas Fairbanks followed in 1920, and a second serialized story by McCulley, “The Further Adventures of Zorro,” was published in 1922. Since all were published in the United States prior to 1923, all are in the public domain.”

In addition to dozens of Zorro stories published by authors other than McCulley and the TV shows, there’ve been 38 Zorro movies, from parodies to straight-up action films, with the most recent coming out the same year as Allende’s novel.

I was in the clear. I was ready to go!

But then, paranoia set in and I did some extra digging. It turns out, Zorro’s copyright status is a mess.

Though the original Zorro stories, The Curse of Capistrano and The Further Adventures of Zorro (which established the characters, setting, and theme of the Zorro universe) are in the public domain, along the Douglass Fairbanks movie The Mark of Zorro (which established the iconic look of Zorro with his black half-mask, wide-brimmed hat and sweeping cape, as well as the comic-adventure tone of the story), “Zorro” as a creative product is somehow still under copyright.

In 1949, McCulley assigned the rights to Zorro to a literary agent named Mitchell Gertz. Gertz set up a company to manage the rights and called it Zorro Productions, Inc. The company is still around, now run by Mitchell Gertz’s son, John Gertz. Allende had to go through Zorro Productions, Inc. in order to write about Zorro, as did Sony Pictures for its 2005 film The Legend of Zorro. Zorro Productions, Inc. is known to be diligent in pursuing trademark and copyright violators. It even went after the candy company Mars, Incorporated in 2010 over an M&M cartoon character dressed to look like Zorro in a commercial.

But recent developments in an extended case involving a musical about Zorro have started to turn the tide against Zorro Productions, Inc. In 1996, a playwright named Robert Cabell wrote Z – The Musical of Zorro based on The Curse of Capistrano. He initially turned to Zorro Productions, Inc. for approval of his use of the Zorro property. However, the following year, Cabell realized that The Curse of Capistrano was in the public domain and withdrew his request.

“According to Cabell, Gertz interfered with various productions of his musical around the world including an early 2000s Broadway production that never materialized due to threats,” writes Eriq Gardner in The Hollywood Reporter. “Besides copyrights, Gertz also used trademarks to assert authority. That led Cabell to petition for cancellation of registered trademarks.”

In 2015, the European Union declared the Zorro trademark invalid.

And in 2018, Zorro Productions, Inc. found itself facing a countercharge of copyright infringement. Back in the 1990s, Cabell had provided the company with a copy of Z – The Musical of Zorro. In 2005, the company authorized the production of another Zorro musical in London. Cabell alleged that this constituted an infringement on his own copyrighted material.

“Eventually, this would lead to a lawsuit from Cabell challenging ZPI’s authority over Zorro. Cabell not only looked for a declaration that his own musical didn’t infringe any copyrights and that ZPI’s trademarks were registered fraudulently, he contended that ZPI used material from his script in both Allende’s book and the follow-up musical,” explains Gardner.

But even in the face of these challenges, Zorro Productions, Inc. remains litigious, stating on its website that in spite of the recent rulings, “The unauthorized, unlicensed use of the name, character and/or likeness of ‘Zorro’ is an infringement and a violation of state and federal laws. ZPI, at all times, reserves its rights to take any and all legal action necessary to protect its trademarks and copyrights against infringement.”

So, that’s why there will be no Zorro novel from me until the legal issues are untangled.

This is why I avoid fan fiction and just write my own damned stories.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



KingKalamari posted:

That's also a system that sports a high potential for state control of information: I know that, for instance, the animation industry under the Soviets was one that was well funded and produced some excellent work, but the type of ideas and ideologies these works could espouse was tightly limited due to being dependent on resources from the ruling government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQO28yyxAMQ

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



It's a real shame, and I hope his health improves. He's such a friendly guy, like that uncle you only see twice a year but you wish you knew better because he's seen some poo poo, but doesn't want to talk about it because dice are way more interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-A5Ec-Ybs

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Mors Rattus posted:

this sounds less like a pagan ceremony and more like a larp

Not sure how much to gossip in here, but all of the folks involved were major players in the University of Buffalo gaming club's Vampire LARP. Like, long after they'd graduated, they'd still come back to play with the club. The LARPing aspect eventually got banned from the school for a while, it was so bad.

Like most LARPs, it was filled with some of the worst people in existence, quibbling over the stupidest, pettiest poo poo in existence, while also occasionally trying to bang goth chicks and/or being the queen bee who manipulated and abused nerdy people.

Like, I'm not legit not sure how to give more details without helldumping about 20 year old LARP drama.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



KingKalamari posted:

Weren't the ownership rights on Dragonlance a little bit more complicated?

There was a big lawsuit between Wotc and Hickman/Weis over Dragonlance novels being cancelled, that wrapped up earlier this year.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020...hout-prejudice/

quote:

Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman’s Dragonlance Lawsuit Against Wizards Of The Coast Dismissed Without Prejudice
John F. Trent December 21, 2020

Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman’s Dragonlance lawsuit against Wizards of the Coast was dismissed without prejudice.

Weis and Hickman initially sued Wizards of the Coast for over $30 million claiming they breached a License Agreement for a new Dragonlance trilogy.

The lawsuit revealed that Weis and Hickman had contracted with Wizards of the Coast to license a new Dragonlance trilogy that would be published by Penguin Random House.

It went on to detail that Weis and Hickman had begun working on the trilogy and had even sent Wizards of the Coast the manuscript for the first book, who approved it in January 2020. Even foreign language editions were reportedly being translated.

However, by August 2020 the lawsuit claimed that Wizard of the Coast “would not approve any furthers Drafts of Book 1 or any subsequent works in the trilogy, effectively repudiating and terminating the Licensing Agreement.”

The suit went on to allege that “no reason was provided for the termination” and “the termination was wholly arbitrary and without contractual basis.”

It goes on to claim that “the termination was unlawful and in violation of multiple aspects of the License Agreement (arguably almost every part of it, in fact). The termination also had the knowing and premediated effect of precluding publication and destroying the value of [Weis and Hickman’s] work not to mention their publishing deal with Penguin Random House.”

The suit also claimed that Wizards of the Coast terminated the Licensing Agreement because Wizards of the Coast “was embroiled in a series of embarrassing public disputes whereby its non-Dragonlance publications were excoriated for racism and sexism.”

“[Weis and Hickman] are informed and believed, and based theron allege, that a discussion was made jointly by [Wizards of the Coast] and its parent company, Hasbro Inc., to deflect any possible criticism or further public outcry regarding [Wizards of the Coast’s] other properties by effectively killing the Dragonlance deal with [Weis and Hickman],” the suit goes on to state.

Weis and Hickman would bring three claims against Wizards of the Coast. The first was breach of contract, the second was breach of implied duty of good faith and fair dealing, and the third was tortious interference with contract. Weis and Hickman were seeking in excess of $10 million for each claim.

The suit would be voluntarily dismissed without prejudice.

A court document reads, “Pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Plaintiff Margaret Weis, LLC and Tracy Hickman hereby gives notice that hte above-captioned action is voluntarily dismissed as to Wizards of the Coast LLC, without prejudice.”

The document continued, “Defendant Wizards of the Coast LLC has not filed an answer or motion for summary judgment, no proceedings or discovery have been undertaken as to these claims, and this action is not subject to any federal statue which would preclude the dismissal of this action under Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i).”

For those unfamiliar with legal jargon, the Legal Information Institute defines Dismisal without Prejudice. They state, “When a case is dismissed without prejudice, it leaves the plaintiff free to bring another suit based on the same grounds, for example if the defendant doesn’t follow through on the terms of a settlement.”

Weis would take to Twitter to confirm that the lawsuit was dismissed.

She wrote, “I know some of you have seen that our lawsuit against WoTC was dismissed. I can’t say anything yet, but watch for exciting news in the weeks to come! And thank you so much for your support!”

Weis would also seemingly reveal that Draconians will be showing up in Dungeon & Dragons 5E ruleset.

Draconians were teased by Deathstroke actor Joe Manganiello in a video for Wired.

Manganiello would be asked by a user if he had any abstract ideas for homebrew races.

He responded, “I don’t know, man. I always thought about like, you know, a civilization of dark gnomes.”

He would continue by name dropping the Draconians, “I have all kinds of other ideas that I use, you know, in my game and float around. I mean, I’ll give you one. I wanted something between dragon and draconian because, you know, I have the Fifth Edition draconian stats. Don’t tell anyone.”

Weis would retweet a Draonlance Nexus’ tweet referencing Manganiello’s Draconian reveal.

They wrote, “The Dragonlance lawsuit has been settled, folks. This is definitely good news and probably leads to the name drop of 5E draconians by Joe Manganiello earlier this week!”

I'd be shocked if this wasn't the result of some contractual stuff to get Dragonlance back into print in a 5e form, especially given that the trilogy the lawsuit was over is back on.

https://twitter.com/trhickman/status/1341265375053246464

https://twitter.com/trhickman/status/1353735475194814466

https://twitter.com/trhickman/status/1354826799868383236

https://twitter.com/trhickman/status/1435731598150823937

Toph Bei Fong fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Sep 29, 2021

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Serf posted:

i remember arguing with some ttrpg nerds about the confederate flag and being told that it wasn't a symbol of racism, it was just popular because people remembered it from "the dukes of hazzard"

Yeah, the problem isn't that the paintjob is patterned after a car from an old TV show, it's that on this particular TV show, the car is literally called the General Lee, and has a big confederate flag on the roof.

If it was, like, Kitt from Knight Rider, or the ambulance from Ghostbusters, or something, it would be fine.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



TheDiceMustRoll posted:

I usually find that most altHistory people are always more interested in what if the shitheads won. What if Hitler won, what if the Roman Empire never fell, what if Japan nuked US, etc.

I don't know if what Dan Fox is doing is "alternate history", it's more akin to "history as setting", where you sort of treat it as a series of elements you enjoy and detach it from 'the real world', like a show about women in the victorian era fighting vampires or some poo poo and they do wicked sick backflips and poo poo. I am not entirely sure what the problem is in ignoring stuff like that since there's no real attempt to marry it to history, dude just likes tricorner hats and shooting redcoats.

It's probably better to just make your own fantasy setting at that point, that's basically what the old world of Warhammer Fantasy is



https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/baghead/diana-warrior-princess/

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



https://kotaku.com/hey-magic-the-gathering-your-story-is-doing-great-wi-1846627064

quote:

Teferi is a Planeswalker, the “main characters” of Magic’s story who have the unique ability to travel between worlds. When we meet Teferi in Return to Dominaria, he’s lost the ability to Planeswalk, and he’s trying and failing to crack open a tomb filled with traps and puzzles with his grown daughter, Niambi. His story manages to weave in elements like the joys of fatherhood and the regrets of his past into this Indiana Jones-type action adventure filled with time spells instead of cultural graverobbing. There’s no racism or weird racism allegory, and these characters, through their names like Niambi that evoke African-ness and the clothes they wear in card art, are still culturally identifiable as Black. Reading Teferi’s story in Return To Dominaria gave me this feeling of “this is what I’ve always wanted” in stories that feature Black people, and it makes me wonder why storytellers in TV and video games seem to lack Magic’s imagination.

Amonkhet, the ancient Egyptian-themed set from 2017, was an enjoyable if grim story. Basically, Nicol Bolas, an all powerful elder dragon, shows up, kills everyone old enough to walk, and uses his powerful magic to re-order society into a zombie army factory Bolas will use to take over Magic’s multiverse. Despite the obvious cheerfulness, I was really drawn to the stories of Amonkhet’s gods and people. I love a story that has ordinary people overcoming impossible odds or succeeding despite utter devastation.

Samut, a Black woman, showed tremendous courage in questioning the true purpose of her society’s culture. Despite being branded as a heretic and abandoned by her friends, she is determined to bring the truth of her world to light. And when Bolas returns to pick up his zombie army and lay waste to the rest of the living inhabitants, she uses all the power and training instilled in her through Bolas’ machinations to fight against him.

Amonkhet is filled with little such stories of ordinary individuals overcoming horrific destruction, death, and the literal loss of their faith to survive and save others. It’s doubly pleasing because the powerful people—the ones who had the ability to stand up to Bolas—get their poo poo utterly wrecked. I know it’s weird to talk so highly of a story that still features Black people in pain, but unlike the earlier examples, these people are not in pain because of their Blackness—Nicol Bolas just sucks.

Kaldheim is another favorite but for far simpler reasons. There’s always a loud and wrong contingent of people who yell about “historical accuracy” whenever people bring up the lack of people of color in their fantasy media. Dragons can exist, but a Brown person strains credulity. Kaldheim is the viking-themed world of Magic’s multiverse. Its story stars a Black woman with a fro-hawk, dual-wielding magical viking axes. Enough loving said.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



GreenMetalSun posted:

What is ‘wokewashing’ in this context?

Something like Hamilton where the horrors of slavery, racism, and other such nasty things are ignored in favor of just pretending that black people were there and it was great and no one had a problem with them.

Which, honestly, is fine sometimes, because sometimes you just want to tell a romance story about the ton without someone doing heavy analysis on how Mr. Darcy was probably a slave plantation owner.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Puppy Time posted:

Yeah, this. Nerds have done that poo poo since time immemorial, the difference is that now writers are more aware of it and for some reason ultrasensitive to that particular criticism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQH2rmQ5-vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVgVB3qsySQ

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Kai Tave posted:

Yeah, it's not incorrect to say there are a bunch of people who would eagerly work for scraps to have their names listed as a Real Big Boy Paizo Game Designer, but Paizo is in a position where their work, however much you may agree or disagree with this breakdown, is considered to be of sufficient quality that bringing in a bunch of unknown freelancers to scab would almost certainly be a massive disaster for them. Lisa Stevens is not wrong to say there are people who would gladly work at Paizo for free, but to have to replace everyone with those sorts of people wouldn't be tenable. "You can easily be replaced" is a looming threat that works best if you can dole it out in drips and drabs, it gets a lot less tenable if a substantial chunk of your workforce calls you on it at once (hence the value in labor organizing).

I am reminded of something a journalist friend said about her work for an anime news website, and why they didn't really hire too many fans: "It's much easier to teach a journalist about anime and manga than it is to teach an anime and manga fan how to be a journalist."

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Tuxedo Catfish posted:

i apologize for framing it in a way where i'm implicitly poo poo-talking your friend on a personal level, but at the same time, media journalism (and especially for nerd media) is like 99.9% "advertising with delusions of grandeur"

a forum thread or twitter feed full of fan opinions, even as bad as they probably are, is still more useful than the collective/average output of people who get paid to write about it

You're not 100% wrong, but there's a definite difference in the ability to rewrite a press release in such a way that it makes the show look appealing, and therefore gets it views on Crunchyroll through their affiliate link, versus talking about how great the dragon girls look and maybe accidentally spoiling the ending via comparison to another show. The forum reviews are definitely more useful to the consumer, but monetizing that as a career...

It is increasingly like being a good buggy-whip manufacturer or typewriter repair person, in that the demand has cratered and the world has mostly moved on, even though the skill itself is difficult and takes time to learn to do well.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Cessna posted:

I liked his stuff when I was 13, but in my defense, I was 13.

Has anyone under 30 even heard of Ringworld or Niven?

The only reason I know him is via CCGs from my childhood



Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Admiral Joeslop posted:

4e is only even good because it recognizes and embraces what D&D is, a combat based wargame. If offers token support for non-combat applications but they're no better or worse than other editions.

On the other hand, people that claim they can't roleplay with it are either incredibly bad at roleplay or lying so they can claim to have made a point.

Dear god, this!

These seemed to be the type of folks who need "Profession: Sailor" on their sheet to say that their character is a sailor, but haven't read the book to know that said Profession skill in fact conveys no bonuses to sailing or seamanship, is only usable during downtime to generate funds between adventures, and that you'll still need rope use and a bunch of other separate skills to actually make your character do such things, but would also claim to fully understand the rules and they've definitely not houseruled anything!

4e made the "mistake" of assuming that people would actually use the rules as written. I recall folks asking on the Wizards forums if they could simply ignore the fighter's mark mechanic, because really they just do theatre of the mind combat and really does it matter? and folks who seemed annoyed that there weren't freeform combat rules for leaping on the back of the griffin and stabbing it in the back of the head or whatever. I also recall a lot of annoyance over how it was just complex enough that it took genuine effort to make a new class, as opposed to "Fighter attack bonus, cleric saves, gets spells like a sorcerer" style of new class that could be done on an A4 sheet in previous editions.

This was somehow coupled with an annoyance at "Storygames" (that would support the aforementioned style of play much better), but because those intentionally lacked the Rolemaster style of "Everything is explicitly on your sheet and if you took Drive: Cart rather than Drive: Wagon, you're poo poo out of luck" and the solo mini-game of character creation, they were not as popular.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Froghammer posted:

I feel like there's some nomenclature issues here, with white and black referring to both skin tones (closer to light tan and deep brown) and colors.

Honestly new Drizz't looks purple.

It would be good if it stopped cosplayers from doing blackface.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



PeterWeller posted:

The Dark Elf trilogy made it pretty clear that Drizzt was not the only good person in Menzo. His sister Vierna was decent and loving until the Lolth cult drilled that out of her, and that process left her basically insane with bitterness. His father Zaknafein is who first showed him to question the teachings of Lolth, and he sacrificed himself so Drizzt could escape. What made Drizzt special was that he got out.

In retrospect, there's a big dose of "Men Going Their Own Way" in the early Drizzt novels:

http://gamingphilosopher.blogspot.com/2006/10/sexism-in-realms.html posted:

The corrupted elves known as the drow are also the only elves with a matriarchal society.

All dark elfs in the book are evil, except for two. Both of these good dark elfs are male.

Drizzt Do'Urden is good because his father was also good - the implication being that blood carries morality - but Drizzt's full sister is evil. Perhaps the father's blood wasn't strong enough to defeat the inherent evilness of women?

Two drow characters in the series show some understanding of what it means to be a father. However, none of the drow females in the books has anything even approaching a mother instinct. In fact, they seem to believe that sacrificing your just-orn baby to the spider goddess is the most normal thing in the world.

About one thousand times Salvatore shows us how male drow are humiliated and repressed by female drow. Presumably, we should be appalled by this. But when Drizzt comes into contact with a human society where the men make all important decisions, he does not even seem to realise that the same kind of humiliation and repression is going on here.

All characters in the books that excel in any way are men. There are women who are said to excel, but they are never shown in action. Quite in general, the men always defeat the women.

The strong drow males are strong because of their own innate and trained powers. The strong drow females are strong only because they have been given powers by the spider goddess Lolth. As soon as they fall out of Lolth's favour, they are helpless. In other words: female power is unnatural.

Even worse, the actual women in the series fall out of Lolth's favour because they are not effective enough at humiliating ans repressing their men. In other words: female power is unnatural and can only be sustained by repressing the natural power of males.

Then, we get to sexuality. Salvatory luckily spares us the details, but the ritual that is the graduation ceremony of the drow schools consists of (1) all students are dragged into a sexual orgy by the priestesses of Lolth; and (2) the best of the student-priestesses has the honour of having intercourse with a huge demon. Alle women are whores who prefer loving rough beasts?

To make that point worse, one of Drizzt's sister already has lustful thoughts about him the moment he is born.

Drizzt's father is a good drow, which is frowned upon, but his Matron Mother allows him to live for two reasons. (1) He is the greatest fighter in the realm. (2) He is very good in bed. A single good man surviving by impressing the evil tyrant women with his sexual prowess?

Salvatore himself isn't sexist, and seems pretty good on women being in charge whenever he gets the opportunity to talk about it. HIs later books are much better about this

https://apex-magazine.com/interview-with-r-a-salvatore/ posted:

Well, thank you for saying that. I have often been accused of being an incredibly sexist because my female dark elves are so evil, but my male dark elves are just as evil. First of all I didn’t create the drow society. That goes to Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson and the early creators of Dungeons and Dragons, who decided it was a matriarchal society. But for me that’s great. I have five older sisters so I know about evil women. I’m kidding! I love them dearly. But I have five older sisters and an older brother so I grew up with strong role models.

My wife is a strong woman. She doesn’t need me for anything. My daughter is a strong woman. I wouldn’t have it any other way. My daughter played ice hockey with the boys. Go and play, you know.

When I started in fantasy back in 1988 when my first book came out, book signings were about ninety-five percent white teenage males. Now if you go to one of my book signings you will see it’s multicultural, multi-generational and there are as many women there as men and I love that.

I don’t take all the credit. I don’t even take a fraction of the credit for that. You had writers like C.J. Cherryh, Elaine Cunningham, and Margaret Weis. A lot of the best writers in the genre are women and they forced this genre to grow up. They forced us to get away from the damsel in distress, the chicks in chainmail model and start treating our female characters with as much respect, dignity and strength as the male characters. That’s a good thing… for everybody involved.

SJ: Yes, and your readership grows tremendously. As a woman I’m tired of the characters who can’t think for themselves, the “Please rescue me” types.

Salvatore: Well, you can’t believe early on some of the email I would get about Catti-Brie, because she was developing as her own powerful character. I would get email from young men saying she should give that bow to Drizzt. He’s way cooler than her; she should be pregnant in the kitchen. I literally got an email that said that.

Now I’ve got Dahlia in the new book.

SJ: She’s wonderful. I actually have a lot of questions about her.

Salvatore: From a physical level she doesn’t need anybody to do anything for her. She can take care of herself in a fight. She doesn’t need anyone to lean on. Love the character.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Mormon Star Wars posted:

I've never see anyone talk about the Ciaphas Cain books to defend 40k as satire, because they aren't satirizing the real world - Ciaphas Cain is satirizing other 40k written media. I.e., the joke is that the other 40k books are so over the top that they would have to be baseless propaganda, so Ciaphas is a look at what the actual events could have looked like.

And having them as in universe documents, being actively redacted and re-written by an inquisitor, because their contents would be too shocking to the morale of the Imperium if they were ever released, adds another level of satire onto the already present "Flashman-but-nicer-and-also-40k"

That said, one would have to have actually read (at least) the blurb on the back to figure out which of these are the joke ones and which are "serious" ones:







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Feb 29, 2008



I'm reminded of the time Zak tried to "get" people by saying he'd donate to a charity if they argued in his very precise way, then then tried to claim that anyone who just donated to the charity anyways, bypassing him completely, was still ethically awful because, by not arguing with him in the way he wanted to be argued with, they were "withholding" money from the charity?

It makes me think of that scene from Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, where The Gentleman with the Thistledown Hair tries to rope Mrs. Strange into a bargain to save Lady Pole. Arabella replies that, were he a true gentleman, he would simply help her friend because it is the right thing to do, and that if he seeks to make profit in exchange for doing the right thing, he is a bad person.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



HERE IS THE ARTICLE YOU CAN SEND TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAY “BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH CRYPTOART WILL BE SOLVED SOON, RIGHT?”

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008




Among other things, yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b12NUpmcfw8

quote:

On another occasion, Odin “sacrificed himself to himself” by hanging on the world-tree Yggdrasil for nine days and nights, receiving no form of nourishment from his companions. At the end of this ordeal, he perceived the runes, the magically-charged ancient Germanic alphabet that was held to contain many of the greatest secrets of existence. He is depicted as having subsequently boasted:

Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work

[...]

The other main form of Germanic shamanism is contained within the magical tradition known as seidr, of which Odin and Freya are the foremost divine practitioners. In traditional Germanic society, for a man to engage in seidr was effectively to forsake the male gender role, which brought considerable scorn upon any male who chose to take up this path. As the sagas show, this didn’t stop some men from practicing seidr anyway. However, even Odin wasn’t exempt from such charges of “unmanliness,” and was taunted for adopting the feminine traits and tasks that form part of the backbone of seidr. Saxo, in the passage on Odin’s exile alluded to above, relates that “by his stage-tricks and his assumption of a woman’s work he had brought the foulest scandal on the name of the gods.”[16] Note also the reference to being “fertilized” in the verse quoted above – while this is certainly a metaphor, it’s a metaphor loaded with sexual implications that would have been immediately recognizable to any Viking Age or medieval reader or hearer of the poem. A fuller discussion of the relationship between Germanic shamanism and gender roles can be found here. For our present purposes, it’s sufficient to point out that, in the eyes of the pre-Christian northern Europeans, Odin’s practice of seidr made him a rather “unmanly” being incapable of fulfilling the expectations placed upon an honorable man.

But we’ve already noted Odin’s scant concern for honor. He isn’t one to refuse any ecstatic practice, even those that bring him ill repute.

quote:

Like other northern Eurasian shamans, the völva was “set apart” from her wider society, both in a positive and a negative sense – she was simultaneously exalted, sought-after, feared, and, in some instances, reviled.[11] However, the völva is very reminiscent of the veleda, a seeress or prophetess who held a more clearly-defined and highly respected position amongst the Germanic tribes of the first several centuries CE.[12] In either of these roles, the woman practitioner of these arts held a more or less dignified role among her people, even as the degree of her dignity varied considerably over time.

Such was not usually the case for male practitioners of seidr. According to traditional Germanic gender constructs, it was extremely shameful and dishonorable for a man to adopt a female social or sexual role. A man who practiced seidr could expect to be labeled argr (Old Norse for “unmanly;” the noun form is ergi) by his peers – one of the gravest insults that could be hurled at a Germanic man.[13] While there were probably several reasons for seidr being considered to fall under the category of ergi, the greatest seems to have been the centrality of weaving, the paragon of the traditional female economic sphere, in seidr.[14] Still, this didn’t stop numerous men from engaging in seidr, sometimes even as a profession. A few such men have had their deeds recorded in the sagas. The foremost among such seiðmenn was none other than Odin himself – and not even he escaped the charge of being argr.[15][16] We can detect a high degree of ambivalence seething beneath the surface of this taunt; unmanly as seidr may have been seen as being, it was undeniably a source of incredible power – perhaps the greatest power in the cosmos, given that it could change the course of destiny itself. Perhaps the sacrifice of social prestige for these abilities wasn’t too bad of a bargain. After all, such men could look to the very ruler of Asgard as an example and a patron.

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Feb 29, 2008



moths posted:

This is kind of a right-wing myth, though.

https://www.theonion.com/man-always-gets-little-rush-out-of-telling-people-john-1819578998

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Feb 29, 2008



TheDiceMustRoll posted:

its a joke about people making random bullshit up about people with no basis in anything wrt random dead people they find.

"This person lost their arm at 21 but lived till 43. The lost limb was likely because they offended a queen and they lived a quiet life of shame. They would have been chased by small children in the streets of sumer. Likely they would have been famous as "Johnny armless" and made a living as a sideshow attraction."
"These two women were found holding one another and were buried together. They were likely sisters or very good friends. They were clearly very ugly to have found no husbands, likely they would have been followed by hordes of jeering men and caused extreme projectile vomiting in anyone they made eye contact with. They were probably the original Gorgons."
"This man had a necklace. The only possible explanation for a man having jewelry is that he was a gay. Probably a wealthy and famous homosexual prostitute and people would have flocked from around the world to him."
"This neolithic man was found in a cave. The only possible explanation we have is that he was walled up Cask of Amontillado style. Likely for being a thief or an oathbreaker. He would have been shamed in elaborate ceremonies."

etc etc etc. This never seems to be things said by actual archaeologists, either by the way, just the coked out interns that run twitter accounts.

"It's ritual!"

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

This is probably the wrong topic, but how did East Asian stuff get associated with the color yellow in the first place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_terminology_for_race

quote:

Categorization of racial groups by reference to skin color is common in classical antiquity.[7] For example, it is found in e.g. Physiognomica, a Greek treatise dated to c. 300 BC.

The transmission of the "color terminology" for race from antiquity to early anthropology in 17th century Europe took place via rabbinical literature. Specifically, Pirke De-Rabbi Eliezer (a medieval rabbinical text dated roughly to between the 7th to 12th centuries) contains the division of mankind into three groups based on the three sons of Noah, viz. Shem, Ham and Japheth:

quote:

"He [Noah] especially blessed Shem and his sons, (making them) Black but comely [שחורים ונאים], and he gave them the habitable earth. He blessed Ham and his sons, (making them) black like the raven [שחורים כעורב], and he gave them as an inheritance the coast of the sea. He blessed Japheth and his sons, (making) them entirely white [כלם לבני], and he gave them for an inheritance the desert and its fields" (trans. Gerald Friedlander 1916, p. 172f.)

This division in Rabbi Eliezer and other rabbinical texts is received by Georgius Hornius (1666). In Hornius' scheme, the Japhetites (identified as Scythians, an Iranic ethnic group and Celts) are "white" (albos), the Aethiopians and Chamae are "black" (nigros), and the Indians and Semites are "brownish-yellow" (flavos), while the Jews, following Mishnah Sanhedrin, are exempt from the classification being neither black nor white but "light brown" (buxus, the color of boxwood).

quote:

In the 1730s, Carl Linnaeus in his introduction of systematic taxonomy recognized four main human subspecies, termed Americanus (Americans), Europaeus (Europeans), Asiaticus (Asians) and Afer (Africans). The physical appearance of each type is briefly described, including colour adjectives referring to skin and hair colour: rufus "red" and pilis nigris "black hair" for Americans, albus "white" and pilis flavescentibus "yellowish hair" for Europeans, luridus "yellowish, sallow", pilis nigricantibus "swarthy hair" for Asians, and niger "black", pilis atris "coal-black hair" for Africans.

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Feb 29, 2008



TheDiceMustRoll posted:

People have been making GBS threads on Joss Whedon since 2015, his wife accused him of abuse in 2017. I think the only reason Whedon "fell" was because Ray Fisher also named executives in 2020 alongside Joss Whedon as the problem and I assume those guys at the top decided to give them something to eat to save their own careers.

I don't think his comments to and about Gal Gadot and Patty Jenkins helped either. Kinda difficult to play "Male Feminist Ally" while also being on record threatening to gently caress up two prominent women's careers if they won't obey

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



The Chairman posted:

"what if a character sheet on the blockchain"

Original Character DO NOT STEAL!!

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Ultiville posted:

Right, the issue is that unlike say a deed, the power of the state doesn't back up the NFT. Which I guess is good if you're trying to break the law, but is less good when you're trying to establish property ownership.

Yeah, that's a mistake so many of those utopian libertarian types make: there isn't some grand metaphysical and/or transcendental method of ownership that makes a stack of signed papers more "real" or binding than a string of numbers on a computer. But there is a group of people with guns who will forcibly remove you from the property via violent means if you don't agree with their interpretation of the law, and they couldn't care less about whatever magic incantation from Black's Law Dictionary or "One Weird Trick" you think will ward them off.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Mors Rattus posted:

This is transparently being pushed by investors and the c-level guys who have no idea what they’re talking about but are tripling down.

"Phase one we need a name for the product"

"Uh that's actually the last step, you've got the transparencies out of order"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmQxzBHmWjs&t=486s

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Feb 29, 2008



Tulul posted:

There's probably a fascinating book waiting to be written about the reoccurring obsession with this sort of "realism" in MMOs; so many games have had this fantasy of being some kind of all-immersive life simulator and almost all of them have failed, quite often hilariously and spectacularly. It's a well that designers can't seem to stop coming back to, no matter how many bloated corpses are lying around it.

IIRC, some players in the early planning stages of PFO were clamoring to have spells like Time Stop apply "for real" and wanted it to arrest all movement in the game save for the caster's for the spell's duration. Yes, rather than speeding up your attacks or movement or whatever like a normal MMO buff, instead literally every other player and NPC on the server would be frozen until the spell wore off.

As funny as it is theoretically to imagine a group of trolls chain casting Time Stop to prevent the game from being played by anyone, from a game design standpoint...

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