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CLEVELAND UPDATE ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE, EVERYBODY! Fritz Coldcockin posted:Hey guys! Guess what? I only skimmed it for now, but I love the new formatting; all glory to the forums and all that, but the pretty PDF is just much more pleasant of a reading experience.
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Aug 3, 2020 05:06
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There's a lot more  about Cleveland than I expected!A very thorough write-up that was also entertaining. Greatly appreciated, Fritz. I feel like it might be time for Teddy Roosevelt next? Have we run out of presidents that he's adjacent to & able to somehow surprisingly pop up in the writeups of?
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Aug 3, 2020 06:57
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Well one downside of the new format is that I can not open it at work.
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Aug 3, 2020 07:26
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Next I want you to do a Canadian PM like Macdonald, Mackenzie King, Laurier or Trudeau Sr.
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Aug 3, 2020 07:29
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oldskool posted:There's a lot more Pretty much! He was involved in American politics for over three decades worth of Presidents. It's crazy.
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Aug 3, 2020 15:06
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Hey guys! Guess what? On page 34: quote:I’ve already touched on the Democratic Party’s troubles on the national stage; they had not won a Presidential election since Martin Van Buren in 1836 Miswrote here, James Buchanan won in 1856
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Aug 3, 2020 21:14
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I think given how often he's come up with all the other Gilded Age Presidents, we might as well do Theodore Roosevelt next. Also this was a very good and through read on Pres. Cleveland and I like the new format.
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Aug 4, 2020 00:38
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I say buck the trends and do a bit about Debs: The President That Should Have Been
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Aug 4, 2020 07:45
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That was an excellent effort post.  I vote for Teddy, if my vote counts for anything.
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Aug 4, 2020 07:58
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Teddy is my favorite president. He also once got shot during a speech in 1912 and kept speaking for 2 hours. Thus, he has my vote.
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Aug 4, 2020 08:37
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DC Murderverse posted:I say buck the trends and do a bit about Debs: The President That Should Have Been Very much on board for this.
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Aug 4, 2020 09:00
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We should also do a bit on: James Blaine, Henry Clay, Huey Long, Henry Wallace, Thomas Dewey, Al Smith, Robert LaFolette, James Cox, etc
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Aug 4, 2020 09:07
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I'd be down for important leaders that were not presidents. Frederick Douglass let's go.
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Aug 4, 2020 09:10
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Can't do the closet of Presidential Losers until we finish the actual Presidents, and I don't know enough about some of the PMs y'all keep suggesting. If anyone else wants to contribute, though, please do!
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Aug 4, 2020 16:17
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I've seen three posters request Theodore Roosevelt; unless anyone else has any other suggestions, he's gonna be the guy. I hope you like 500-page epics, cause this dude's life was long and storied.
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Aug 6, 2020 22:38
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Bully.
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Aug 6, 2020 22:40
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Rough Rider. I miss this thread. 
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Sep 13, 2020 03:12
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Teddy's my favorite president and I hope I'm not the only one. He needs waaaaaaay more biopics made. He was a legit cowboy, unlike the actor John Wayne.
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Sep 13, 2020 04:10
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I gotta admit for all the “Teddy is bold to the point of madness” stuff I was struck by just how smart the guy was too. He may have charged into things without hesitation but it wasn’t without thinking often enough. Also, the fact he went trust busting alone is enough to put him up there as one of our best presidents really.
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Sep 13, 2020 16:48
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I'm sorry about the length of time this has taken, guys. Since the last bio was posted, I've gone back to work, and I've started the process of moving in with my girlfriend--so a lot of my time is occupied. Plus, the biography I'm using for reference isn't one I've read yet, so I am hesitant to start using passages from it because I'm weird like that. In the meantime, I would suggest the following options if you really need a dose of Teddy Roosevelt. If you want the definitive account of his life, then Edmund Morris' trilogy is definitely the one you want. The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt covers his pre-Presidential life, Theodore Rex covers his Presidency, and Colonel Roosevelt covers his post-Presidential life (including his 1912 campaign). If that's too dense for you, I'd suggest instead T.R.: The Last Romantic, by H.W. Brands. Brands is an excellent biographer--he's written a bunch of other books that I love, including bios of Jackson, Grant and FDR, and even one on Ronald Reagan that is remarkably fair and even-handed. It's the ideal one-volume experience.
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Sep 13, 2020 20:06
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Funny enough I literally have just ordered 2 of the 3 books by Edmund Morris on Teddy Rex for this weekend's camping trip.
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Sep 22, 2020 02:54
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Gatts posted:Funny enough I literally have just ordered 2 of the 3 books by Edmund Morris on Teddy Rex for this weekend's camping trip. They are very good, but they're also very dense, so be prepared.
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Sep 22, 2020 17:28
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 Just made me think of this thread 
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Oct 9, 2020 18:44
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If the White House had its own long-lived tortoise, we would have lots of black and white pictures of presidents like Roosevelt, Truman and Eisenhower feeding it, petting or smiling happily with it. And then we would have a photo where it would either attempt to bite Trump or flee from him as fast as his little legs could carry him.
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Oct 11, 2020 08:16
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I am so sorry, guys. I haven't abandoned you, I promise. I AM going to finish this thread, by hook or by crook.
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Oct 11, 2020 17:39
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You unironically should make a patreon and post this stuff around more because it's a shame you aren't even getting beer money for this.
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Oct 11, 2020 17:57
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Herstory Begins Now posted:You unironically should make a patreon and post this stuff around more because it's a shame you aren't even getting beer money for this. When you consider that useless talentless hacks like Bill O'Reilly make stupidly embellished "biographies" and get paid for it it's almost criminal that Fritz is doing this for free.
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Oct 11, 2020 18:07
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I am so sorry, guys. I haven't abandoned you, I promise. I AM going to finish this thread, by hook or by crook. No need to apologize, you don't owe us anything, man. I just re-read your effort-posts on Grant and FDR today and they were spectacular.
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Oct 11, 2020 19:50
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Angry_Ed posted:When you consider that useless talentless hacks like Bill O'Reilly make stupidly embellished "biographies" and get paid for it it's almost criminal that Fritz is doing this for free. I do it to share what I know and love with you guys. In fact, if you'd like, I will post the intro I have written for the entry on Theodore Roosevelt as a sneak preview.
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Oct 11, 2020 20:26
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I do it to share what I know and love with you guys. In fact, if you'd like, I will post the intro I have written for the entry on Theodore Roosevelt as a sneak preview. Please do, I'd love to read it.
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Oct 11, 2020 20:44
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I am so sorry, guys. I haven't abandoned you, I promise. I AM going to finish this thread, by hook or by crook. You have nothing to apologize for. You will still have a willing audience here.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:24
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:I am so sorry, guys. I haven't abandoned you, I promise. I AM going to finish this thread, by hook or by crook. You're not the slowest updater of free content on these forums by any means.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:29
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President chat is goodm I've learned a lot of things from this thread that I appreciate. I haven't learned about dr. Doctor shoving things up people's asses yet unless I missed that post. But otherwise a fine thread.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:04
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DC Murderverse posted:I say buck the trends and do a bit about Debs: The President That Should Have Been Guy ran a presidential campaign while in prison for opposing the United States' entry in WW1, talk about principled.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:18
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I found this thread while looking for something interesting to read- two months later, I finally got to this point. A fantastic thread that shows that history is a little more animated than previously taught- and i don't know who is a worse "bad penny": TR or Nixon. Guess I'll have to wait for your next installment!
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Nov 16, 2020 03:34
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Fritz you take all the time you need my friend. Just like Richard Marx, we'll be right here waiting for you.
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Nov 29, 2020 15:39
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Anyone who's looking for more should listen to the first couple seasons of Slow Burn. I went through the entire show over the last week and learning a lot more about Watergate and Bill Clinton is a Scumbag-gate was very interesting. it's also very funny because the second season (the Clinton one) is full of Republicans bloviating about the honor of the office of president and how Clinton besmirched it, which is real lol given the last 4 years (but also Bill Clinton is very much a scumbag)
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Nov 30, 2020 02:44
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DC Murderverse posted:Anyone who's looking for more should listen to the first couple seasons of Slow Burn. I went through the entire show over the last week and learning a lot more about Watergate and Bill Clinton is a Scumbag-gate was very interesting. yeah. i have listned to it too and its interesting as gently caress. anyway, a dark part of me is sometimes "relived" clinton imploded in 2016 when i read the hosed up poo poo about the clintons(the real stuff not the insane chud poo poo) because while the DNC will still kiss their rear end on some level(through cabinet picks and such) they are never gonna hold any full political power again. and they arnt exactly liked by younger progressives/leftists or even libs/independents. like i am happy that clinton was able to lead the DNC out of the wilderness it had been lost in since carter and earlier but it was a loving monkeys paw to some degree.
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Nov 30, 2020 04:38
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Tried to read the G. Cleveland PDF but got a file not found error! I was so interested to dive into his sordid (maybe?) history.
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Neitherman posted:Tried to read the G. Cleveland PDF but got a file not found error! I was so interested to dive into his sordid (maybe?) history. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qk2z0hvd50pggkj/Grover%20Cleveland.pdf?dl=0
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