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OK I might as well get the Hot Takes ball rolling: I would kick LBJ out of the Hall of Fame group and place him all the way down in the Did More Harm Than Good group. He did push forward a progressive social agenda but I'm sorry, with all we now know about the lies told and skullduggery involved in continuing to escalate the Vietnam War, I cannot rank him any higher. Discuss.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2018 21:43 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 16:11 |
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Late but re: Ike, no mention of Operation Wetback?
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2018 19:09 |
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Lincoln.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2018 17:41 |
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Correct! When his mother remarried, he was rechristened with his stepfather's name. I did not know that! Interesting. My vote, if it's still open, is for Slick Willie.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2018 19:30 |
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This is going to be pointless because I'm already outvoted but I want to hear about the man, the legend, the Rough Rider: Teddy "The Bear" Roosevelt. But I'll look forward to reading about Nixon when that vote becomes official. Thanks for everything so far, Fritz! VH4Ever fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Apr 30, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 23:09 |
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McKinley, please! And thank you.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 02:50 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 16:11 |
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Cleveland would be good, coming off the "accidental president" it would be cool to cover the only "non-consecutive president." On the pardon: I take a dimmer view on it in light of the Trump era. I think that calculation, that we needed to let the president get away with whatever crimes he committed without 1) finishing the job of uncovering what they all were and 2) forcing him to suffer consequences for those crimes under the law is precisely why we have seen even more out of control, lawless presidents since then. Reagan, GWB and especially Trump all committed crimes that deserved removal from power and punishment and all (probably) will suffer no punishment for any of it. It set a precedent that stands in the way of us being able to rein in any president from here on out and I'm not sure it gets any better since we re-affirm that precedent all the time. EDIT But great write-up as always, Fritz!
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2020 17:25 |