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My husband and I were watching CNN as they're getting ready for the students vs NRA lady debate. I said there's no reason for a private citizen to own an AR-15. He starts listing "semi-legitimate reasons" for people to own a gun. Such as: an invasion by a foreign enemy. The rest of the conversation went roughly like this: (Me) That's literally impossible (Husband) The impossible can happen! Normandy was supposed to be impossible and the allies pushed Germany back. Ok cool, but like, the only borders we share are with Canada and Mexico, and then we have huge oceans between us and anyone else There's a possibility if our opponent had the sheer numbers to overwhelm the coast. Lmao wtf we have motherfucking missiles that can go halfway around the world the ships would never make it I'm just saying there's a possibilit-- Not in the modern era!!! There will never be a land war in the US. I will die on this hill.I feel confident I'm right, but in truth I don't actually know jack poo poo about war and the military. So, I'm turning to the goon hive mind for insight -- is there a scenario in which a land war in the US could happen? fake edit: ok, so turns out he was playing devil's advocate, but I was too high to understand. Nevertheless, please discuss.
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people can have a war anywhere they want really
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Feb 22, 2018 03:26
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the coast guard does good work but they probably can't drive off a large scale sea invasion by themselves and lol at relying on the navy to do something right.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:27
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There's no point to invading with soldiers on the ground if you can just use ICBMs and then fly in troops at the craters.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:28
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the coast guard does good work but they probably can't drive off a large scale sea invasion by themselves and lol at relying on the navy to do something right. But why couldn't we just drone strike the boats? I thought we were really good at that.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:29
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Anyone else get cold called to enter the national guard/reserve/sign up bonus is an actual sign up bonus? I got like 3 of them in the last 6 months.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:29
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I hope there's a chance. I want to kill some people that for some reason can't keep up with their lawns around here.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:31
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We own guns to prevent the liberal totalitarian government from enforcing homosexuality upon us
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Feb 22, 2018 03:32
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anglerfish posted:My husband and I were watching CNN as they're getting ready for the students vs NRA lady debate. I said there's no reason for a private citizen to own an AR-15. He starts listing "semi-legitimate reasons" for people to own a gun. Such as: an invasion by a foreign enemy. The rest of the conversation went roughly like this: Your husband has the brain disease lots of these people have where they have an intense fetish for imagining they live somewhere weak, small, and under constant existential threat from some big scary something invading. It's kind of like slumming it, except instead of rich kids pretending to be poor, its the geographically isolated hyperpower imagining that its loving Georgia or Cyprus or something. So yeah, the very dumbest of all NRA talking points.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:32
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anglerfish posted:My husband and I were watching CNN as they're getting ready for the students vs NRA lady debate. I said there's no reason for a private citizen to own an AR-15. He starts listing "semi-legitimate reasons" for people to own a gun. the entire purpose of the second amendment is to make sure citizens can own weapons like what the military uses, meaning that we actually should also have nukes so you're both wrong, and yes a land war anywhere is possible we're violent apes, way back we even declared war between the north and the south of the same nation
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Feb 22, 2018 03:33
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The skeleton war is coming
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Feb 22, 2018 03:33
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If the price of fighting off imagined invaders is the ever growing pile of dead kids, so be it. At least I can sleep soundly at night knowing I haven't let my nation down.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:34
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anything's possible, except a militia of retarded gun collecting doorknob-humpers saving this country from an aggressive military force
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Feb 22, 2018 03:34
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That;s the one thing thats not possible
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Feb 22, 2018 03:35
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JakeP posted:The skeleton war is coming skeletons have been in every war
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Feb 22, 2018 03:36
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But how well would a Honda Civic do in a land war in the US?
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Feb 22, 2018 03:36
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VikingSkull posted:skeletons have been in every war stop trolling idiot this is a serious thread
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Feb 22, 2018 03:36
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Unless like, an invasion of Alaska counts your husband is a moron, and even that is incredibly unlikely.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:36
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Supreme Allah posted:anything's possible, except a militia of retarded gun collecting doorknob-humpers saving this country from an aggressive military force name/post combo outta control
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Feb 22, 2018 03:37
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Breakfast Feud posted:If the price of fighting off imagined invaders is the ever growing pile of dead kids, so be it. At least I can sleep soundly at night knowing I haven't let my nation down. If the kids had guns then it would be piles of dead maniacs
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Feb 22, 2018 03:37
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I really want there to be a clause in American gun law saying you have to belong to an organized militia in order to own guns. Want your assault rifle? Have fun with the Suburban Guard doing laps of the local football field at 5am before work, then meet up with them again in the evening for some drills and shooting practice.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:37
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VikingSkull posted:skeletons have been in every war I side with the skeleton warriors tbh.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:38
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Breakfast Feud posted:If the price of fighting off imagined invaders is the ever growing pile of dead kids, so be it. At least I can sleep soundly at night knowing I haven't let my nation down. *looks up from CNN app on cell phone, unsure of what day it is* gosh darn...how many kids have to die. oh. like 60 a year. well i can't tolerate this, hey doc could i get a script for anxiety i heard only 52,000 americans a year die from drug use and only 400,000 from burgers i have absolutely no concept of numbers, frame of reference for reality, and the TV determines my mood. once i turn the TV off the internet takes its job. if only something could poo poo my pants for me
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Feb 22, 2018 03:38
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extra stout posted:the entire purpose of the second amendment is to make sure citizens can own weapons like what the military uses, meaning that we actually should also have nukes All the AR15s in the world won't stop a nuke dropped from the thermosphere.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:39
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Who What Now posted:All the AR15s in the world won't stop a nuke dropped from the thermosphere. You’re just not a good enough shot 
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Feb 22, 2018 03:40
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extra stout posted:*looks up from CNN app on cell phone, unsure of what day it is* that fuckin time mickey D's broke into the schools and just straight up burgered a bunch of kindergarteners to death
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Feb 22, 2018 03:40
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Is it worth it having a land war in a country where there are more guns than people?
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Feb 22, 2018 03:40
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Split Pea Superman posted:Is it worth having a land war in a country where there are more guns than people? what if you need guns
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Feb 22, 2018 03:41
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extra stout posted:*looks up from CNN app on cell phone, unsure of what day it is* dying from a burger is a bit less traumatizing and preventable than dying from a school shooting but i'm not sure what level of irony or sarcasm this post is and it's probably going over my head
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Feb 22, 2018 03:41
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Grape posted:Your husband has the brain disease lots of these people have where they have an intense fetish for imagining they live somewhere weak, small, and under constant existential threat from some big scary something invading. He was trying to explain a right wing talking point, he doesn't actually believe it (I'm faded af and didn't pick up on that). I already had started typing the post when I realized. extra stout posted:the entire purpose of the second amendment is to make sure citizens can own weapons like what the military uses, meaning that we actually should also have nukes Lol our "well-regulated militia" is like when you're playing endgame Civ and everyone has nukes and you find a barbarian tribe on some island that is still using muskets.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:43
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Split Pea Superman posted:Is it worth having a land war in a country where there are more guns than people? Wars are pretty famous for having lots and lots of guns, and them falling into lots and lots of hands. Pretty sure war starting people take this part into account.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:43
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a civil war would probably be a land war with memes mixed in
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Feb 22, 2018 03:44
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most land wars are internal not external
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Feb 22, 2018 03:44
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Y'know what I'm on board now. Ban guns, let everyone have nukes.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:44
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VikingSkull posted:what if you need guns Be on good terms with someone who already has some? The same as it's always been.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:45
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anglerfish posted:He was trying to explain a right wing talking point, he doesn't actually believe it (I'm faded af and didn't pick up on that). I already had started typing the post when I realized. you thought your husband was just nonchalantly spouting nra talking points and you just kinda rolled with it? lol
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Feb 22, 2018 03:47
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A conventional invasion of a nuclear power would pretty dumb because of tactical nukes.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:48
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ofc there could be a land war. The Atlantic isn't that big and wwii was fought across the Pacific using islands between continents. That said, I think it's extremely unlikely and not something anyone really has to live in fear of.
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Feb 22, 2018 03:48
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Grape posted:Wars are pretty famous for having lots and lots of guns, and them falling into lots and lots of hands. Pretty sure war starting people take this part into account. The majority of people that die in a war are the people without weapons if you really think about it.
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Flavahbeast posted:people can have a war anywhere they want really
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